CIA says Iran is not building nuclear weapons

Originally posted by syrinx high priest
why would you build a peaceful lab in an underground bunker ?

makes no sense unless you will eventually try to weaponize it

bomb it now

Maybe cause Iraq and Syria had theirs bombed? No that couldn't be it.

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Do they even have adequete plumming ? Iran and it's people just aren't ready to deal with this much responsibility. Too many fanatics from many different origins.

reply to post by syrinx high priest

why would you build a peaceful lab in an underground bunker ?

makes no sense unless you will eventually try to weaponize it

bomb it now

Or perhaps they know Israel has a penchant for, and in fact history of, bombing nuclear facilities. If I were working on a nuclear energy program and was in similar circumstances, I would probably also establish hardened facilities.

And besides, as I understand it, we don't currently have the munitions to do the job anyway - as such, the military is trying to develop more powerful many-ton bombs to penetrate.

Does Iran [Persia] actually need to build a nuke bomb----

or will Pakistan give them a Nuke... but without the 'fuel' be it Plutonium or enriched Uranium

as i remember it, Pakistan built & successfully exploded what they call The Islamic Bomb
who can say that they will share the device and the trigger, but an Islamic country must provide the
fission material --
-that way Pakistan is not contributing to a state of Nuclear Poliferation
and will not technically break the Non-Proliferation Treaty


the USA is driving Pakistan into Iran's camp with the UAV & Drone strikes... which
violates the Pakistani sovereignty issue according to the masses over in Pakistan

see: www.presstv.ir...

Taliban militants have claimed responsibility for downing an unmanned US assassination drone in Pakistan’s northwestern tribal region.

recall that Iran downed a stealth Drone several weeks ago, now Pakistani Taliban downed an Assassin Drone now if that don't make these two differently aligned countries more buddy-buddy, i don't know what will, as i see it the heavy handed USA is disrespecting both these Asian nations that are very Pro Islamic

Rev 13:13 And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men,

the Drones fire missiles on whomever is targeted by the 2nd 'beast'~ are we in the midst of Rev 13:13 right now?~


the blowback might just what the intrigue engineers of USA intelligence black-ops want to happen
so that boots on the ground in both nations will happen and tactical atomic munitions can be unleashed on Persia/Iran

note the time stamp of this post.... thanks

edit on 25-2-2012 by St Udio because: (no reason given)

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And you don't think this is wrote by Peneta as ordered by Obama? This is just the excuse Obama needs to hang Israel out to dry. The CIA would not know if the toilet paper was low in their own restrooms unless someone told them. Iraq is a perfect example. They don't have enough people on the ground over there so they come up with this crap rather than listening to what Iran is doing and what the Israelis are warning us about.

Not to mention they did not know NK was building a bomb either.

Great, maybe this means that America will NOT go to war with them and ADD any further [color=gold]DEBT to our country via another war.

BUT, of-course the WAR-MONGERS of Israel WILL go to war with them no matter what.

In which case, hopefully Iran retaliates and SHUTS Israels BIG FAT MOUTH up for GOOD!!

"Gods chosen people" Israel, do not stand a CHANCE without Mommy-America, and the [color=limegreen]TAX-DOLLARS of the HARD-WORKING, already BURDENED American citizen who is tired of them anyways.

They dont stand a chance without Mommy-America.

Ofcourse they're saying that now - Russia and China are standing up to US and they're not going to back down. US needs a way out without losing face.

Originally posted by Patriotsrevenge
reply to post by H1ght3chHippie

 

And you don't think this is wrote by Peneta as ordered by Obama? This is just the excuse Obama needs to hang Israel out to dry. The CIA would not know if the toilet paper was low in their own restrooms unless someone told them. Iraq is a perfect example. They don't have enough people on the ground over there so they come up with this crap rather than listening to what Iran is doing and what the Israelis are warning us about.

Not to mention they did not know NK was building a bomb either.

And what credible source are you using to determine that they are building nuclear weapons?

Peace

Originally posted by Tw0Sides

Originally posted by starchild10

Originally posted by Xcathdra

The issue has, and still does, remain around the ability to build one. Thats why there is concern over enrichment levels. The ability has always been at the forefront of the issues.

Indeed and they are saying that officially now. The issue is not so much Iran's intention but Iran's capability.

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Ok, But wouldn't every country with a nuke plant therefore have the Capability.
Shouldn't we pre-empt strike on those countries as well?

Do some research.Not all countries that have nuclear plants can aslo have the capability to build nukes.
My country, Romania, have a nuclear plant...but don't have the capability to build nukes.
A power plant doen't mean squat.Its a POWER PLANT only.

Iran, on the other hand, also have this:
-heavy water production plant (Arak)
-uranuium conversion plant (Isfahan)
-uranium enrichment plant (Natanz and Qom)
They also have a complex at Parchin, which is SUPOSED to be a research and developement centre for ammunition.

So you see...power plants are NOT equal with nuclear weapon CAPABILITY.

Originally posted by Tw0Sides
Ok, But wouldn't every country with a nuke plant therefore have the Capability.
Shouldn't we pre-empt strike on those countries as well?

This goes back to the inspections and verification process. The process Iran is resisting even though as signatories its required.

The same actions occurred with North Korea until they withdrew from the treaties, at which point their nuclear program pretty much dropped off the media radar since there was no longer a violation. We are engaged with the North in talks, with face to face talks coming up.

We have had the same actions with the Iranians using intermediaries since we do not have diplomatic relations with Iran. Obama has sent the Ayatollah / Ahmadinejad a letter, and received one in return. This issue has been going on since the 1990's, slowed down somewhat in 2003, and then picked back up.

Its not like this issue is brand new or sudden.. Its not like their resistance to complying with IAEA / NPT obligations is new either. That issue has been around since 2003 as well, with Iran refusing inspectors access to entering the country, refused access to sites that are declared under the treaties, etc etc etc.

The goal of the West towards Iran's program - Verification and Safeguards - A key requirement under IAEA / NPT treaties.

As a side note Iran has still been unable to adequately account for missing enriched uranium. The discrepancy was discovered by the IAEA some time ago, they asked Iran, were given different answers, but none account for the loss.

Originally posted by H1ght3chHippie
Just in from the New York Times, the CIA's mouthpiece:

WASHINGTON — Even as the United Nations’ nuclear watchdog said in a new report Friday that Iran had accelerated its uranium enrichment program, American intelligence analysts continue to believe that there is no hard evidence that Iran has decided to build a nuclear bomb.

Sorry but who the hell just decides one day to build a nuclear bomb?

What a load of bull! Iran have no nukes, lets just leave other countries alone!

Originally posted by Tw0Sides

Originally posted by starchild10

Originally posted by Xcathdra

The issue has, and still does, remain around the ability to build one. Thats why there is concern over enrichment levels. The ability has always been at the forefront of the issues.

Indeed and they are saying that officially now. The issue is not so much Iran's intention but Iran's capability.

edit on 25-2-2012 by starchild10 because: (no reason given)

Ok, But wouldn't every country with a nuke plant therefore have the Capability.
Shouldn't we pre-empt strike on those countries as well?

I would go further... Iran has vehemently promised in public speeches to destroy the United states, Isreal, all US allies in the Gulf and in Europe. Iran is behind suicide bombings across Iraq, even against Shia mosques trying to inflame racial and religious hatred and now also bombings in Thailand.

The difference between Iran and all other powers with the Bomb (albeit Iran has yet to acquire it) is that those other powers have acted responsibly and kept their arsenals purely for self defence.

Only Iran has threatened to use nuclear weapons belligerently.

Of all the nuclear powers or wannabes, Iran is the most unsound and dangerous on the planet.

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What about the United States which has used nuclear weapons twice in anger?

Originally posted by woodwardjnr
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What about the United States which has used nuclear weapons twice in anger?

Those could hardly be considered two separate incidents. After all, a demand for Japanese surrender followed the August 7, 1945 nuclear bombing of Hiroshima. The Japanese government refused to surrender, betting the lives of their people that America could not possibly field a second bomb.....

It has since been revealed that the Japanese were working on their own atomic bomb, and knew how difficult it was to refine enough U238 to create a working bomb.

It has also come out that the Japanese expected the US invasion of the main Island of Japan to cost the lives of a million American soldiers. They expected the US invasion would ultimately fail. Truman knew at least some of this, which is why he OK'd the bomb drops.

America was the only country capable of stopping Japan. That's why America is the only country that has used atomic weapons.

The incredible cost of building nukes, plus the fear of US retaliation, has kept any other state (so far) from using nukes to fight wars.

Same old, same old




false intel just like Iraq's WMDs

Originally posted by VariableConstant
reply to post by H1ght3chHippie

 

Of course. But you're not supposed to say that...

They are going to wipe us all off the map. Even South Dakota (though who knows why).

edit on 25-2-2012 by VariableConstant because: 'cuz they hate us for our freedoms

never mind south dakota.i am very worried about detroit.