And we have come full circle back to snopes again.


My point is nobody cares the presidency was stolen by someone not entitled under the constitution and everyone believes other peoples research without any actual proof of anything. When professionals say the Hawaiian bc is fake under oath, no one believes it. When snopes says the Kenyan bc is fake, everyone believes it....wtf? The hospital has pictures of the baby Kenyan with his parents, in Kenya. How was he born again in Hawaii 4 days later?

Listen up obamabots.....the reason it is so important is because we are a nation of laws.....laws that say if he was born on foreign soil, his mother had to be 19 to convey citizenship, she wasn't.

It's funny that these same people who say if a child is born on US soil to foreigners, we have to recognize that child as American.....totally ignoring parents citizenship....but when it come to Barry you are fighting for the exact opposite.

This is what happens when laws aren't followed and everyone insists on interpretations of the law.

The fake Kenyan BC was based on a real Australian BC....and snopes even has a pic. They even forgot to change the certificate number before they made the fake!

I don't know what to believe about this anymore.If this is real this is a major major fraud of magnitude that is so huge you cannot comprehend that it could be gotten away with.
I do not know who to trust on this issue.

Obama wasn't born on foreign soil. The US Dept of State, which is responsible for the US Passport operations, said, in a Freedom of Information proceeding last year, that Mama Obama didn't have a passport until the future Prez was four years old. Meaning she wasn't able to travel to Africa until then. I am sure that an experienced obstetrician will tell you that if the pregnant woman is here, the baby doesn't come out in Africa.

Why is it that these purported foreign birth certificates for Obama - and they don't always agree with each other or with simple historical/geographic facts - exist only as snapshots of a document and only snapshot of each document not even multiple pictures of the same document, but one document one snapshot? Why doesn't anyone seem to have the original or a certified copy issued by Kenya???

Cool story bro.

How do I know this is true?

Genuine or not, why should we care really?

The government in England has had Scottish leaders so why is it so hard for Americans on conspiracy forums to cope with a President who was fairly elected by the people to stand as a candidate and then voted fairly into office by those same people but may or may not have been born in a different country?

Originally posted by sheepslayer247
The fake Kenyan BC was based on a real Australian BC.

Have you even looked up the past history of Kenya and who and what the protectorate of Kenya was, at that time?

Just saying, it maybe fake, but the Australian BS would be a standard, at the time of his birth in Kenya, or at least that part of Kenya.

Kenya underwent lots of changes during those years.

Originally posted by demongoat

Originally posted by sad_eyed_lady

I showed this to my son who knows more than many about the subject and he agreed it is fraudulent. He also said, which is really sad: "Nobody cares." It looks like nobody has the guts or power to do anything about it.

edit on 2/25/2012 by sad_eyed_lady because: (no reason given)

yep that ends it then! someone on the internet asked their kid if the PDF was a fraud, there for it is! LOL

even though real experts say it isn't and it is known that software can and will do what we see in the PDF if they use certain types of software.
for one, the pdf wasn't made using illustrator but some software used in the medical field that reads text in a way that makes layers when you open it in illustrator.

but who cares right? i agree "nobody cares" about the facts, only about their vendetta against obama.

If you can say that about the video that blatantly shows that the certificate is fake then you either :

A. Did not watch the it

B. Somehow managed to miss most of what was being said and shown

or

C. You are lying through your teeth

Created with medical software he says ....thats a good one. And what did they need 'medical' software for again to create that pdf ?


Also you claim 'Experts' confirmed it. I am sure they had 'experts' at the ready to state that, Which was all they did. Were these the same sort of experts that managed to get the "magic bullet" being accepted as evidence in the JFK assassination ?

Here it is

Supplied and verified by experts and accepted evidence in the government run presidential murder investigation. (Which also happened to somehow produce a perfectly unscathed used bullet after all that.)


You do know what i would say what you can do with your 'expert' opinion right?
So much for the 'expert' opinion.