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Originally posted by LadyGreenEyes
Originally posted by kaylaluv
reply to post by LadyGreenEyes
Let me ask you this - what would it take to convince you beyond the shadow of a doubt that Obama was born in Hawaii?
Originally posted by jsipprell
Originally posted by LadyGreenEyes
Originally posted by kaylaluv
reply to post by LadyGreenEyes
Let me ask you this - what would it take to convince you beyond the shadow of a doubt that Obama was born in Hawaii?
Pardon the interruption, but I have a question for you "presidential birthplace doubters" (I'll not use the more common term because I understand you find that offensive, and I am honestly trying not to offend you).
Delusion has really negative connotations in our society, but the fact is that minor delusion is actually very very common. Almost everyone thinks they are more competent at something than they really are. Women tend to think they are less attractive than a polling of random people would objectively indicate while men tend to think the opposite. And who hasn't experienced self-delusion in a romantic relationship only to realize afterwards (usually with a mental *facepalm*)? Excluding those lucky enough to have only had one lifetime partner, of course.
Do you think the possibility exists that your thinking on this matter is mildly delusional? I'm not saying your wrong and I'm not saying you are delusional, I'm merely asking if you think there is any possibility at all that you might not be thinking clearly on this one particular point.
If your answer is "No", can you conceive of any conversation, evidence or anything at all that would convince you that there is some possibility, even if small, that your thinking is not clear (again, just on this specific point)?
edit on 29-1-2013 by jsipprell because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by LadyGreenEyes
The oddities regarding the seen-online-only-birth-certificates,
the likelihood of multiple SSNs,
the lack of many people that claim to have known him as a college student,
including how hard he's fought to keep any actual documentation of his past out of a courtroom (and so far, none has been seen there...);
why doesn't he go into a courtroom, with the official papers, and have them examined and verified?
That could have happened years ago, and all the questions would have gone away.
Those records are being protected (online scans don't count for legal purposes), as is a lot more (old school records, old work records, etc.). Why?
I don't know of any other high level politician with that many secrets. Do you?
Originally posted by hellobruce
Originally posted by LadyGreenEyes
The oddities regarding the seen-online-only-birth-certificates,
Obama's paper short form was available to look at and touch, so it was NOT only seen online - that is just a biirther lie.
Originally posted by hellobruce
I strongly suggest you look at how they got the silly claim of "multiple SSN's....
Originally posted by hellobruce
People have come forward, with pictures, there is even a tv clip of Obama at Harvard.... why do you ignore that?
Originally posted by hellobruce
Originally posted by LadyGreenEyes
why doesn't he go into a courtroom, with the official papers, and have them examined and verified?
he does not have, in fact why should he?
Originally posted by hellobruce
Originally posted by LadyGreenEyes
Those records are being protected (online scans don't count for legal purposes), as is a lot more (old school records, old work records, etc.). Why?
Funny that, your same records are also being protected exactly the same wqy, so what are you hiding? How much have you spent to hide your records?
Originally posted by LadyGreenEyes
Who saw it? Who touched it?
In what court was it verified?
Some was presented, and verified, in court.
appear in court, show the stuff, and CLOSE the matter.
There is a major and ongoing controversy.
The People of the United States are his employer.
When I joined the Army,
My transcripts are available as needed.
Originally posted by LadyGreenEyes
Why did McCain have to verify his eligibility on court?
Some evidence was in a case in Georgia or Alabama
The pay rate is currently set at 400K, plus expenses.
Actually, every candidate is supposed to be vetted and verified.
That didn't happen in his case.
Get a clue.
You can't just walk up and ask for the job, and get it, with no vetting.