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Rise Of The Fourth Reich

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posted on Feb, 25 2012 @ 01:56 PM
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Originally posted by vkey08

Originally posted by Fichorka

Originally posted by neo96
but that doesn't stop them at detaining US citizens in FEMA concentration camps. Just Look at US military spending
edit on 24/2/2012 by Fichorka because: (no reason given)


Please provide proof that ordinary Americans are being held in concentration camps, I've hard much about these camps, probably they exist, but have heard NOTHING about mass detentions or rounding up people to be held yet...
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I think it's enough that these camps even exist. And they do.




posted on Feb, 25 2012 @ 02:08 PM
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What i always found strange about hitler is he failed a coup in 1923, spent 1 year in jail where he wrote mein kampf, then 10 years later was dictator of Germany. Look it up on wikipedia.

1. Who serves 1 year in prison for a failed coup?
2. How after his failed coup did he become fuhrer in 10 years?

Makes me think the powers were supporting him, maybe they thought he was a puppet but he fought back, or maybe he did what they wanted him to do, be aggressive and give an excuse for world war.

Though they call ahmadenijad a new hitler, its not likely he will invade any country. They want a new hitler, it would be like a dream come true for the elite.



posted on Feb, 25 2012 @ 02:10 PM
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They seem to have forgotten the real leader of the 4th Reich. The OP has images of a guy who nobody has heard from in nearly 4 years. Too funny.




edit on 25-2-2012 by navy_vet_stg3 because: (no reason given)



posted on Feb, 25 2012 @ 02:16 PM
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Saw this on another site, couldn't resist.


Source



posted on Feb, 25 2012 @ 02:32 PM
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Originally posted by colbyforce

Originally posted by theruthlessone
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I take it you havent heard of the new laws that have been passed about internet censorship, and the law that allows anybody if suspected of a " terrorist act/intention " to be detained for life, without access to a lawyer, without been able to see there family, without a trial...................
Nazi America is already here
Sieg Heils
i hate your country................... Murdering bastardos



Is it amusing or is it just me, when people from places such as England say this kind of shi*?


Very amusing indeed. Obviously this person hasn't researched the Bank of England and their role in this whole mess.

America is Nazi Germany?
Then England is Berlin.



posted on Feb, 25 2012 @ 02:58 PM
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OP: Thank you for starting this thread. S&F for you.

I agree with a lot of what you say, however, I'm not sure it was cowardice under a veneer of bravery, though I could be wrong. I definitely see the similarities between the US and Nazi Germany. I often see us already under a fascist sort of rule, but in denial over it.

One thing that immediately came to mind after seeing this thread was a 1967 experiment done by a teacher (Ron Jones) in a CA high school, called The Third Wave. He did this experiment on a class of his after they asked him how people could go along with Hitler. The conclusion of the experiment was basically that the students were easily manipulated, and he revealed the parallel to them with the Nazi Germany question. There was a book written and two movies produced about this experiment, all titled 'The Wave'.

Everyone in modern societies are susceptible to being manipulated in this way.

en.wikipedia.org...



And the 2008 German version with English subtitles (my fav):



posted on Feb, 25 2012 @ 03:07 PM
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posted on Feb, 25 2012 @ 03:50 PM
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I think this is complete hyperbole. First of all, Hitler didn't "stage" the reichstag fire. There is no evidence to suggest this and a lot of evidence that it was caused by a mentally deranged communist foreigner. Hitler would not have had any sympathy from Germans but for the fact that post ww1 Germany was a mess of hyperinflation and living in fear of brutal communist organized crime who threatened to take power. And when I say "mess" I mean real problems of not being able to buy food not today's first world problems of having to pay too much for university. Hitler and the nazis used tactics to threaten opponents that would be unthinkable today, including murders (although the communists in germany in this period were just as bad if not worse). The entire system was falling apart, and hitler gave a good chunk of the population what they wanted to hear- order. The current comfy state that Americans live in today has no resemblance to the chaos that was post WW1 Germany.

godwins law thread all the way.



posted on Feb, 25 2012 @ 03:53 PM
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The article is very biased and seems like the main intention of the author is to troll America, not to inform anybody about a rising totalitarian state. America is VERY, VERY different from Germany in the 1930s, but of course every fool with a computer and a grudge for a hobby will jump on board.

Also about every other point the author makes is a logical fallacy on bravery, he/she doesn't explain anything else about it other than that false "bravery" is causing a totalitarian state, that's an awful big leap. If you've paid attention to everything else, you'll see that just about every society and culture on Earth reacts the same way, not just Germans and Americans.

With the right words you can make a lot of things sound similar, doesn't mean its reality. You could say the same things the author says about China, in fact it would seem China is even farther along becoming the "new third reich" than America. Of course this doesn't get anyone's shadenfreude hard so no one would care, the same people bashing America would completely disregard it because its not America.

Your "third reich America" already exists in the form of a prison state, it's already here. If we have anything to learn from history it is that each age comes with its own, more enlightened version of the events of previous ages. This time around its not a holocaust, it's mass incarceration. It's very naive to think the exact same thing is happening only after reading a few biased articles on the internet, the situation is in fact very different.



posted on Feb, 25 2012 @ 04:07 PM
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What a convenient cop-out. "Just another America Bashing Thread"

America deserves to be bashed. America is the new Nazi Germany. Going around the world in the name of "spreading democracy" when in fact the us (government) has had nothing but their own interests at heart since the government has been hijacked.

Imagine if people weren't so distracted with entertainment and actually had nothing to do but be politically involved. The people who oppose the current government would be in those FEMA camps very quick.

Get over your "Patriotic" attitude about your country because your country is dead. Be patriotic about what you used to be and restore it to that.

I live in Canada, and I "bash" my own country. Because it isn't my country. It's hijacked by a bunch of crooks and the people who still think we have any form of democracy up here are completely mistaking. Special interests will jam a bill through one way or another no matter how many people stand up.

Stop being in denial people. People in Nazi Germany did the same thing and look where it got them.

Seriously history is like clockwork in way.



posted on Feb, 25 2012 @ 04:09 PM
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Originally posted by neo96
Guess people haven't watched the news there is the rapid demilitarization of the us via the automatic budget cuts the slashing of over 500,000 servicemen, the cancellations of weapons systems including the f-22 and other programs then of course the slashing of the nuclear arsenal to a mere 800.

Meanwhile the Us gets called the Fourth Reich and the rest of the world modernizes and is building up their miliitaries including Russia and China.

Wonder why no one is calling Iran the Fourth Reich since they have been building up their military and nuclear programs?

OH nevermind just another bash America thread.


I would expect this to be obvious. Because we only assume they are building nuclear weapons. The only information YOU and any of us are getting about Iran are from our own journ...er propaganda outlets. You're believing fairy tales constructed in order to benefit our own military-industrial complex. Is it possible that they ARE building it? Sure... but the last place I'll believe it from is Israeli or American news.

Also, if we are a country constantly at war, with countless atrocities on OUR hands throughout the world, why would we compare Iran, a country that hasn't started ANY wars in quite a long time, to the 4th Reich? It makes no sense, it's not logical.

But then again you don't deal in logic, do you?

Khar
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posted on Feb, 25 2012 @ 04:13 PM
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The main question is valid but the article is not at all appropriate.

The article was written by somebody who had a hard-on for President Bush. It was written with the intent to compare 1938 Germany with what was going on in our country at the time of his terms.

Compared to what President Obama is doing to our country and personal freedoms, and our image around the world, you could provide a cornucopia of additional similarities between what Adolf Hitler did to Germany and what Barack Obama is currently doing and what he has planned in the future.

The Conservative is the new "Jew".

The peaceful Tea Party are called terrorists and extreme while the Occupy Movement is patriotic.

Wake up, people!

edit: not going to read any anti-American screeds, either. God Bless America!
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posted on Feb, 25 2012 @ 04:29 PM
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Let's not forget how the Nazis fluoridated public drinking water, one of their tools to dumb down populace. Seems America does the same thing and then some. Oregon Crud, Chem Trails, and GMOs, anybody?



posted on Feb, 25 2012 @ 04:34 PM
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Originally posted by astrocramp
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I think this is complete hyperbole. First of all, Hitler didn't "stage" the reichstag fire. There is no evidence to suggest this and a lot of evidence that it was caused by a mentally deranged communist foreigner. Hitler would not have had any sympathy from Germans but for the fact that post ww1 Germany was a mess of hyperinflation and living in fear of brutal communist organized crime who threatened to take power. And when I say "mess" I mean real problems of not being able to buy food not today's first world problems of having to pay too much for university. Hitler and the nazis used tactics to threaten opponents that would be unthinkable today, including murders (although the communists in germany in this period were just as bad if not worse). The entire system was falling apart, and hitler gave a good chunk of the population what they wanted to hear- order. The current comfy state that Americans live in today has no resemblance to the chaos that was post WW1 Germany.
godwins law thread all the way.


You sir, have your head under the sand. Research much?


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posted on Feb, 25 2012 @ 04:38 PM
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I like ATS, but this is one of those more paranoid delusional threads. There are similarities, but its drawing a long bow really. Its like saying fish and elephants are the same because both have eyes and blood.

Its joining dots that just aren't there. I'm not an American and don't particularly like American governments per se, but this is just ridiculous this thread.

"As you can notice - Third Reich back in 1938 seemed just like US today." The photo on the OP post has virtually nothing in common, bar the banners.

I see there are Fox news fans also, trying to rewrite history with a Beckian point of view that the Nazi's were socialists. In the same way North Korea is not a democracy, but has the title "The Democratic People's Republic of Korea (DPRK)" , the Nazi's were not socialists but had the name "National Socialist German Workers' Party".

Hitler admired the fascist regime of Mussolini and wanted to emulate him. The Nazi party were fascists.

dictionary.reference.com...

Excerpt: "1. any ideology or movement inspired by Italian Fascism, such as German National Socialism; any right-wing nationalist ideology or movement with an authoritarian and hierarchical structure that is fundamentally opposed to democracy and liberalism
2. any ideology, movement, programme, tendency, etc, that may be characterized as right-wing, chauvinist, authoritarian, etc
3. prejudice in relation to the subject specified: body fascism "

The Nazi Party were right wingers, this is a well established fact.

en.wikipedia.org...

Excerpt: "The party was founded out of the current of the far-right racist völkisch German nationalist movement and the violent anti-communist Freikorps paramilitary culture that fought against the uprisings of communist revolutionaries in post-World War I Germany"

"a majority of scholars identify Nazism in practice as being a far-right form of politics"

en.wikipedia.org...

" Far right themes exist in Nazism, including the goal of both Nazism as well fascism in general, to promote the right of superior people to dominate while purging society of claimed inferior elements; and particularly in the case of Nazism, genocide of people deemed to be inferior"

I'm sorry, but you can't rewrite history to suite your worldview, ideology or beliefs and no, I'm not a Jew.

Yes, I believe the USA has used false flags numerous times to instigate war for their economic or political benefit, but this post is just all over the place with trying to highlight similarities.



posted on Feb, 25 2012 @ 04:41 PM
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dont worry what is the worst that can happen





posted on Feb, 25 2012 @ 04:44 PM
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The article is very biased and seems like the main intention of the author is to troll America, not to inform anybody about a rising totalitarian state. America is VERY, VERY different from Germany in the 1930s, but of course every fool with a computer and a grudge for a hobby will jump on board.


You are using a lot of words but you are not saying anything.



posted on Feb, 25 2012 @ 04:47 PM
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posted on Feb, 25 2012 @ 04:56 PM
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Originally posted by purplemer
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The article is very biased and seems like the main intention of the author is to troll America, not to inform anybody about a rising totalitarian state. America is VERY, VERY different from Germany in the 1930s, but of course every fool with a computer and a grudge for a hobby will jump on board.


You are using a lot of words but you are not saying anything.



Okay, well, you are using few words and a picture and saying nothing. Now post another clever piece of fear artwork and see if it makes a difference.
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posted on Feb, 25 2012 @ 05:00 PM
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Wow is all I can say. Equating America with 1930's Germany? And you have over 20 flags? What is wrong with you people? Are you all mad? Here he goes calling the German People of 30's and 40's Germany 'cowards' The SS, no matter how evil it was, definitly were not cowards.


Agree.




Every other day a member of this site makes a post regarding Iran as a peaceful, loving country with well meaning intentions


There is virtually no evidence about Iran being hostile or not being peaceful. How many countries to they occupy in comparison to America? The propaganda about Iran is simply to convince people that Iran is the new bad guy, while the real intention is to stop them using an oil pipeline to sell oil in currency other than the petro dollar. Manufactured controversy.




A MAN ATTACKS AND KILLS 3,000 US CITIZENS, WE GO INTO HIS HOST COUNTRY AND LET EM KNOW THE PRICE OF ATTACKING AMERICANS, AND YOU GUYS SAY WE ARE THE BAD GUYS?


So if it was Osama's fault and he admitted it. Why go to Iraq first and kill over 100,000 people, when there was NO EVIDENCE AT ALL?




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