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Rise Of The Fourth Reich

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posted on Feb, 24 2012 @ 07:02 PM
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Great Post, OP !!
Star & Flag.

I especially enjoyed Time Magazine - Hitler Man of the Year - in 1938


www.time.com...

and guess who was Time Magazine - Man of the Year - in 2008 ...


www.time.com...

and, as a previous poster wrote... Jim Marrs was spot on!!




posted on Feb, 24 2012 @ 07:11 PM
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Great post. I agree with your sentiment, and any intellectually honest person who chooses to employ critical thinking can see this for themselves. The problem is that there aren't too many people that do that in regards to this particular topic. When the name Hitler is mentioned, 99% of people immediately think of the holocaust, and then that is as far as their mind will allow them to go. When Obama is compared to Hitler, the person that said it is immediately destroyed and called every name in the book. The fact of the matter is, Obama is very much like Hitler in regards to his political and socioeconomic ideology. Holocaust aside (obviously) America over the last 11 years has been almost a mirror image of the Weimar Republic and the rise of Nazi Germany. I would say that Obama is more communistic than Hitler was, but same ideology nonetheless.



posted on Feb, 24 2012 @ 07:12 PM
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Originally posted by neo96
Guess people haven't watched the news there is the rapid demilitarization of the us via the automatic budget cuts the slashing of over 500,000 servicemen, the cancellations of weapons systems including the f-22 and other programs then of course the slashing of the nuclear arsenal to a mere 800.

Meanwhile the Us gets called the Fourth Reich and the rest of the world modernizes and is building up their miliitaries including Russia and China.

Wonder why no one is calling Iran the Fourth Reich since they have been building up their military and nuclear programs?

OH nevermind just another bash America thread.

Us has mightiest military in the world and I admit it's economy will collapse soon, but that doesn't stop them at detaining US citizens in FEMA concentration camps. Just Look at US military spending

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posted on Feb, 24 2012 @ 07:14 PM
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Thank you fichoka. I watched the shows "The rise and fall of the third reich" on history the other night. Its unreal how close we are following this history. The laws, the forming of the TSA, and the taking of American's property. God i pray we wake up and stand together soon. We do not have long left.



posted on Feb, 24 2012 @ 07:19 PM
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I think there should be no distinction between citizen and military, all spending should be put into the military and all people should be put into the military, and all countries can be in constant war, then I will truly feel free and safe.



posted on Feb, 24 2012 @ 07:27 PM
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well, also Hitler was a Socialist, exactly like Obama is.

and Hitler was nominated for the Nobel Peace Prize...

And Obama never repelled the Bush's Patriot Act - which mirrors the special laws that Hitler put in place after the Reichstag fire.

Reichstag fire = 9/11 = both false flag operations to set special laws giving the option for dictatorial power..



posted on Feb, 24 2012 @ 09:40 PM
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Originally posted by HeywoodFloyd
reply to post by OptimusSubprime
 


well, also Hitler was a Socialist, exactly like Obama is.

and Hitler was nominated for the Nobel Peace Prize...

And Obama never repelled the Bush's Patriot Act - which mirrors the special laws that Hitler put in place after the Reichstag fire.

Reichstag fire = 9/11 = both false flag operations to set special laws giving the option for dictatorial power..


Hitler was a National Socialist, and that is a distinct difference from your run of the mill socialist, although ideologically speaking they are almost identical. For the most part, communism and socialism go hand in hand, because one is a political ideology, while the other is an economic philosophy making the political ideology possible to employ. So then why do communists and Nazis hate each other? Because of the Nationalist aspect to the Nazi regime. Hitler wanted to make the entire world Germany, whereas Stalin, Lenin, Mao, (insert your communist dictator here) wanted to spread the idea of communism throughout the world, while maintaining borders, at least the vast majority of the time. This is why I say that there is more of a communist element to Obama, because he certainly isn't a Nationalist. He does however want to bring America's economic standards down to the level of the rest of the world, by incorporating Marxist economic philosophy such as wealth redistribution, both nationally and globally. I firmly believe that if Obama could get away with it, he would probably have people like me rounded up and "taken care of", in order to silence descent, much like Hitler did, and I say this because of his Fabian Socialist, Progressive roots. If you really want to see into the mind of a Fabian Socialist look up some of George Bernard Shaw's speeches... it will blow your mind, and Obama comes straight out of that school of thought. Anyway, good discussion and I agree with you in regards to the similarities that you mentioned.



posted on Feb, 24 2012 @ 10:06 PM
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When the consitution was written the centralizers were called Federalists, although the word federal implies decentralization. The opponents of the Constitution were decentralized in fact and philosophy but were called Anti-Federalists, implying that they were against decentralization.

In the Civil War the 10th Amendment was abrogated as was habius corpus.

During the First World War, the socialist candidate for president was imprisioned for talking against the administration in public and the entire economy was commandiered by the government and propaganda was developed and made a normal part of life.

The Second World War made every western power permanently socialist.

The Cold War expanded the powers of the military industrial complex.

911 is integrating all of the corporate, financial, and political powers into one legal entity.

www.youtube.com...


Forgive me if my laughter sounds cracked
Forgive me if I smile badly
It's only that I've run off the track
Derailed by the irony

Forgive me if my laughter sounds cracked
Forgive me if I smile badly
It's only that I've run off the track
Derailed by the irony

Can you hear the hooves, can you hear the riders coming
On presidential roofs listen to the sinister drumming
Can you hear the hooves, can you hear the riders coming
On presidential roofs hear the sinister drumming

They warn of Armageddon, they warn us of apocalypse
The future's as a fool's invention
Of choking skies and computer chips

(There's a nightmare) civilization
(There's a monster) industry

Four horsemen have already arrived
I see them above us, already here
Four horsemen with hooves like knives
I say again, already here

(There's a nightmare) civilization
(There's a monster) industry
(There's a devil) human corruption
(There's a vampire) human greed

Can you hear the hooves, can you hear the riders coming
On presidential roofs listen to the sinister drumming
Can you hear the hooves, can you hear the riders coming
On presidential roofs hear the sinister drumming

(There's a nightmare) civilization
(There's a monster) industry
(There's a devil) human corruption
(There's a vampire) human greed
(There's a nightmare) civilization
(There's a monster) industry
(There's a devil) human corruption
(There's a vampire) human greed

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posted on Feb, 25 2012 @ 12:40 AM
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Originally posted by neo96
Guess people haven't watched the news there is the rapid demilitarization of the us via the automatic budget cuts the slashing of over 500,000 servicemen, the cancellations of weapons systems including the f-22 and other programs then of course the slashing of the nuclear arsenal to a mere 800.

Meanwhile the Us gets called the Fourth Reich and the rest of the world modernizes and is building up their miliitaries including Russia and China.

Wonder why no one is calling Iran the Fourth Reich since they have been building up their military and nuclear programs?

OH nevermind just another bash America thread.


You know... its not like Iran (or russia or china) is invading countries with no excuse for the last 9 years...

About the F22 craptor... well you have 187 of them. And the F-35 is replacing it, being built since... 2007 or something, so its not like you're not making more military aircrafts... and as far fetched or crazy this idea seems, but other countries have to update their arsenal also, even if its sole purpose is to match the US.

And... a "mere" 800 nuclear weapons? Wow... how many do you need? lol... There are like 200 countries in the world, thats around 4 nukes per country. Isnt that enough? Why would you even need 800 nuclear weapons?

Tell me please... WHY would you NEED more than 800 NUCLEAR weapons? Is the US at war with the Deathstar or something?



posted on Feb, 25 2012 @ 12:51 AM
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800 is to insure that we can retaliate if we sufffer a first strike of nukes.

As in for sure, no possible way we couldn't so don't think its even remotely possible to try to nuke us and live.
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posted on Feb, 25 2012 @ 01:22 AM
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Originally posted by Semicollegiate
reply to post by FraternitasSaturni
 


800 is to insure that we can retaliate if we sufffer a first strike of nukes.

As in for sure, no possible way we couldn't so don't think its even remotely possible to try to nuke us and live.
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Are you serious?

Well... BE CAREFUL THEN... you only have 4 nukes for each country of the world. If you miss one, or if you nuke the same country 5 times, you're already in disadvantage!!!!! Paranoia much?

Thats not even a real answer... 800 nuclear weapons to ensure a retaliation? You really need 800? Is the US expecting to be attacked in that proportion? What could possibly happen for the US to really need those 800 nuclear weapons? Cause if it is even possible for such even to happen, I'm sure the attacker will make sure that the US is completely leveled thus making those 800 weapons unnecessary.

800 nuclear weapons its either stupidity, contradiction or syndrome of small penis. Theres no plausible or intelligent explanation for 800 nuclear weapons.



posted on Feb, 25 2012 @ 01:42 AM
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Complete 100% certainty is a rare thing. Only death, taxes and nuclear retaliation.

You have heard of Mutual Assured Distruction



posted on Feb, 25 2012 @ 02:00 AM
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Last 9 years? Man, look at how many wars there have been since WW1. How many of them are EXACTLY the same as what we're doing today?

The US has been invading countries of interest for well over 40 years. Seriously. Multiple invasions as well. 1989 invasion of panama wasn't it? or was it 79, i forget now. The US(and by 'THE US' I mean the government, banks, and corporate interests all intermingled within eachother like some screwed up orgy) overthrows governments, and if that fails, they invade. Its all working hand in hand with contract companies all over the world, mainly western entities.. Foreign aid is a scam. Foreign aid is funneled into the corporate game, its used to pay US corporations to build things for poor people that cannot afford it, in the end, a select few people in the country get filthy rich, and the rest suffer (most of africa for example),

Sorry to say, but america is THE entity that the corporatocracy is working out of right now, that is where it took root and spread like wildfire. Thats the nature of the system, taking advantage of people at every possible turn. The only reason we're not like china is because of the american revolution, which instilled some sort of freedom from oppression, eventually the corporatocracy took root again in america, and it stealthily took over everyones lives and SCREWED EVERYONE.

Wish people saw it like i did. We're 'not as bad as africa', well, its our fault they are in that state. We do not stop it, we are just as guilty as the ones who commit these crimes. But we are nearly powerless to stop it, lots of people are just dumbed to the fact. Set in their beliefs and ideologies. Never accepting any change. Well, if we don't change soon, (actually, its probably too late), then we are screwed. Thats everyone on the planet, china is in no better shape, neither is russia. They're both in economic recessions too are they not? Just like the rest of the world right now. And guess who has all the gold.
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posted on Feb, 25 2012 @ 03:25 AM
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I think this "FEMA Camp" thing gets blown out of proportions. Is there even any proof about that those camps really exist? Do they hold any civilians? There is no proof

And to compare the USA to the third reich is absurd.
If the USA were like this, we would see it. They would shut down ATS, censor the Internet completely and try everything to hide the truth, just as the Nazis did with the concentration camps and what was really going on (Inform yourself about Theresienstadt and how they disguised it, so the Red Cross didn't see the truth at their inspection of that camp)
I think most of you guys have absolutely no clue about what Life was under the Nazi regime. All you know is the "history written by the winners" story and some half-true facts you propably heard on TV or read on Wikipedia.
If the USA were like that, there would be half of the members of this site and probably thousands of other US citizens dead by know because they are "enemies of the state" and "dangerous". Because the reason, the german population back then didn't question anything and except for a few people, there was no uproar because the Nazis spread all that fear. Say something against them and you're dead. This isn't the case in the USA were you're still able to call Obama a stupid war-mongering monkey and make fun of every single politician, ask their motives and construct some very crazy conspiracy theories.

I do believe that the USA learned a lot from all the high-ranking Nazi officers they imported during Operation Paperclip. Things like the fluoride in the tap water and the nuclear radiation experiments they did during the 50's in schools and hospitals are exactly the same style.

But the USA isn't turning into the "fourth Reich". I actually had to laugh after seeing the very first picture of this thread. Come on, all nations are basically following the style of the roman empire with big buildings, parades and all that stuff. To show those two pictures, draw a comparission and scream "OMG! THEY TURN INTO NAZIS!" is extremely absurd and ignorant



posted on Feb, 25 2012 @ 04:00 AM
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Couldn't help myself...




posted on Feb, 25 2012 @ 04:20 AM
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You should read your own words more carefully and take heed to a warning. The US is not YET confining there citizens in FEMA camps. I personally believe that they will be used as work camps for making food when the US gets low, but thats getting off topic. I can promise you some germans saw just barb wire and fences before 1940 too.

The Fact that the US wants to push through acts like sopa confirm that they want to control the internet. As for citizens being killed for supposedly being enemies of the states you have to look no further than one of the new glorious bills that allows it's citizens indefinite detention. Now I know that no ones getting dragged off in body bags yet, but if your labeled a terrorist and they can keep you forever who's to say that they wont just kill you because your supposed to be there forever.



posted on Feb, 25 2012 @ 04:48 AM
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Democracy is an Illusion.
As soon as there is ONE
there is coruption.
When there is many.
There is caos.



posted on Feb, 25 2012 @ 05:06 AM
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Originally posted by OptimusSubprime

Originally posted by HeywoodFloyd
reply to post by OptimusSubprime
 


well, also Hitler was a Socialist, exactly like Obama is.

and Hitler was nominated for the Nobel Peace Prize...

And Obama never repelled the Bush's Patriot Act - which mirrors the special laws that Hitler put in place after the Reichstag fire.

Reichstag fire = 9/11 = both false flag operations to set special laws giving the option for dictatorial power..


Hitler was a National Socialist, and that is a distinct difference from your run of the mill socialist, although ideologically speaking they are almost identical. For the most part, communism and socialism go hand in hand, because one is a political ideology, while the other is an economic philosophy making the political ideology possible to employ. So then why do communists and Nazis hate each other? Because of the Nationalist aspect to the Nazi regime. Hitler wanted to make the entire world Germany, whereas Stalin, Lenin, Mao, (insert your communist dictator here) wanted to spread the idea of communism throughout the world, while maintaining borders, at least the vast majority of the time. This is why I say that there is more of a communist element to Obama, because he certainly isn't a Nationalist. He does however want to bring America's economic standards down to the level of the rest of the world, by incorporating Marxist economic philosophy such as wealth redistribution, both nationally and globally. I firmly believe that if Obama could get away with it, he would probably have people like me rounded up and "taken care of", in order to silence descent, much like Hitler did, and I say this because of his Fabian Socialist, Progressive roots. If you really want to see into the mind of a Fabian Socialist look up some of George Bernard Shaw's speeches... it will blow your mind, and Obama comes straight out of that school of thought. Anyway, good discussion and I agree with you in regards to the similarities that you mentioned.


The idea of Hitler wanting to "make the whole world Germany" is absurd. It is exactly the communists that wanted to create a world wide communist utopia, workers without borders united as one to happily work towards a common goal. Hitler wanted to make Germany a continental powerhouse and grabbing resources was the only way he could do it because Germany itself isn't that rich in natural resources, at least not enough to meet the level of industrialization and population growth. Oh wait, that sounds extremely familiar. Let's see what the modern Germans have to say about this:



The winner takes it all hmm?



posted on Feb, 25 2012 @ 05:18 AM
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I take it you havent heard of the new laws that have been passed about internet censorship, and the law that allows anybody if suspected of a " terrorist act/intention " to be detained for life, without access to a lawyer, without been able to see there family, without a trial...................

Nazi America is already here

Sieg Heils

i hate your country................... Murdering bastardos



posted on Feb, 25 2012 @ 05:38 AM
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Yea I know the US is not YET confining their citizens in FEMA camps, but examine the NDAA law wich really gives that right to US military - indefinite detentions and killing civilians. Surely the president knows something we don't. He expects rioting, rebellion and marshall law, othervise he wouldn't sign the NDAA law.



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