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Originally posted by Jean Paul Zodeaux
reply to post by mastahunta
thats sort of like saying..."You have terminal cancer you say???" "Well get up and do some jumping jacks, drink some water...you'll be fine" I think there is a better option and I do have access or time to produce fuel or refine fuel.
Your strawman is nothing at all like what Realtruth was arguing.
There is no reasonable evidence to suggest doing jumping jacks and drinking "some" water will heal the disease of cancer, but there is plenty of evidence to bear out what Realtruth has argued.
Make your own fuel
Making your own feul
Make feul at home...
Make your own gas
Make your own biodiesel
How to make your own feul
Of course, it makes sense that someone who claims that the oil cartels that control the price of oil is "due to free market forces" would then make the ludicrous argument that suggesting people make their own fuel is like telling someone with cancer to heal the cancer by doing jumping jacks.
Originally posted by downwind
Gas might be as low as 2.11 per gallon if people would demand the repeal of a law, H.R. 5660. No amount of drilling will help, the repeal of this bad law would.
Before 2000 investors were allowed to purchase a limited number of "futures" and crude oil was considered a strategic commodity. Thus futures contracts were tightly regulated untill congress decided to let hedge funds and investment banks wreak havoc in the name of modernization.
According to OPEC $30 to $40 per barrel is caused by speculation. People who have the means to buy oil contracts but do not have the means to take delivery or to distribute the product. This small number of people are responsible for about $1.40 of every gallon... fix the rules and this will change.
I would encourage everyone to contact their representatives and demand the repeal of H.R. 5660.
Enough is enough. All those extra dollars in circulation will help everbody instead of the offshore bank accounts of a few.
Originally posted by Jean Paul Zodeaux
reply to post by mastahunta
It matters not where you live, if you have the actual will to do something it - usually - can be done. You can present all your woeful excuses as to why you can't do anything other than complain, and complain, and complain and that any suggestions towards fixing the problems you complain about have no bearing on you because you are...well kind of like a cancer patient who apparently thinks jumping jacks and drinking more water is a waste of time.
Originally posted by Furbs
You still drive.. a gasoline powered vehicle?
How quaint!
Rising gas prices must really hurt, eh?
Get off the gas, mate.
Nice, attack me and the person I am because I am sick of Oil Cartels ripping of Americans. Maybe you don't really care, which is why you would suggest the non solution you did.
Originally posted by mastahunta
Nice, attack me and the person I am because I am sick of Oil Cartels ripping off Americans.
Maybe you don't really care, which is why you would suggest the non solution you did.
I have a suggestion, eliminate oil speculation.edit on 25-2-2012 by mastahunta because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by mastahunta
May claim was, to be specific, Oil Speculation is a free market force, a force that increases
the cost of fuel to the point where it is a burden. The auxiliary market serves no purpose
but to rip customers off and I don't think it is unreasonable for me to be against it.
Originally posted by Jean Paul Zodeaux
reply to post by mastahunta
Nice, attack me and the person I am because I am sick of Oil Cartels ripping of Americans. Maybe you don't really care, which is why you would suggest the non solution you did.
Look! You cannot have cartels in a free market. Cartelization is antithetical to free market principles. That there are oil cartels is just one of several bits of evidence to clue you into the fact that it is not "free market forces" driving oil prices. Conversely, the more people begin manufacturing their own fuel the more this affects the market place regardless of cartelization.
You want to eat your cake and have it too. You want to stay reliant on oil cartelization, but you don't want to pay the price of it, and being as woefully ignorant as you are about economy and free market principles you surely do not want to consider the idea of an actual free market, you are all for the absurd regulations that benefits cartelization. You can eat your cake, but once you have you can no longer have that cake, just the crap it produces.
Originally posted by imherejusttoread
Originally posted by mastahunta
May claim was, to be specific, Oil Speculation is a free market force, a force that increases
the cost of fuel to the point where it is a burden. The auxiliary market serves no purpose
but to rip customers off and I don't think it is unreasonable for me to be against it.
Do you have any evidence of speculation increasing current prices? Documentation?
Originally posted by Furbs
Originally posted by mastahunta
Nice, attack me and the person I am because I am sick of Oil Cartels ripping off Americans.
Maybe you don't really care, which is why you would suggest the non solution you did.
I have a suggestion, eliminate oil speculation.edit on 25-2-2012 by mastahunta because: (no reason given)
My suggestion was better, because it is something that YOU can actually do by yourself to stop being ripped off by oil speculators.
Stop buying gasoline.
Originally posted by mastahunta
Originally posted by Furbs
Originally posted by mastahunta
Nice, attack me and the person I am because I am sick of Oil Cartels ripping off Americans.
Maybe you don't really care, which is why you would suggest the non solution you did.
I have a suggestion, eliminate oil speculation.edit on 25-2-2012 by mastahunta because: (no reason given)
My suggestion was better, because it is something that YOU can actually do by yourself to stop being ripped off by oil speculators.
Stop buying gasoline.
No, I think it is better to start off by addressing the abusive practices of the industry.
I don't know a single soul who wants to pay for speculation induced premiums, except
for the Corporate defense league here.
Originally posted by BubbaJoe
no rules, no regulation, and massive profit. Please, please, please, think when you vote, and think about who is going to profit.
Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus
reply to post by FlyersFan
He also has spent his entire Presidency Europeanizing us. What is the freakin obsession he has with European Socialists?edit on 25-2-2012 by ThirdEyeofHorus because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by BubbaJoe
All of the so called conservatives will defend this, this is what open markets bring us. For the realists of us out here, some of these speculators should be hung, drawn, and quartered, as a punishment for treason against the state. For the open minded out there, this is what the Republicans want for all markets, no rules, no regulation, and massive profit. Please, please, please, think when you vote, and think about who is going to profit.
Originally posted by mastahunta
Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus
reply to post by FlyersFan
He also has spent his entire Presidency Europeanizing us. What is the freakin obsession he has with European Socialists?edit on 25-2-2012 by ThirdEyeofHorus because: (no reason given)
Ya a socialist who just proposed slashing corporate tax rates -
You are the one obsessed with European socialists, maybe you should stop watching TVedit on 25-2-2012 by mastahunta because: (no reason given)
He is not pursuing a set of random initiatives but a program of comprehensive Europeanization: European health care, European welfare, European carbon taxes, European day care, European college education, even a European foreign policy, based on engagement with supranational technocracies, nuclear disarmament and a reluctance to deploy forces overseas.
By now you may have heard: America is on its way to becoming another European country. Now, by that I do not mean that we’re moving our tectonic plate off the coast of France or anything, but rather that a century-long dream of American progressives is finally looking like it might become a reality. The recently passed health-care legislation is the cornerstone of the Europeanization of America. And to pay for it, the White House is now floating the idea of imposing a value-added tax (VAT) like the ones they have throughout most of Europe.
In the egghead-o-sphere, there’s been an ongoing debate about whether America should become more like Europe. The battle lines are split almost perfectly along left-right lines ideologically. Liberals like Europe’s welfare states, unionized workforces (in and out of government), generous benefits, long vacations, etc. Conservatives like America’s economic growth, its dynamism and innovation.
To be fair, liberals insist conservatives are wrong to think that Europeanizing America will necessarily come at any significant cost. New York Times columnist and Princeton economist Paul Krugman says that, in exchange for only a tiny bit less growth, Europeans buy a whole lot of security and comfort