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Originally posted by ollncasino
Originally posted by Hecate666
Reading through this thread has made a few things very clear. The most insulting posts here are from men.
Why are feminists so sensitive to criticism when they dish it out so readily?
You would almost think that they thought of themselves as a superior sex.
Originally posted by AnonyWarp
I dont hate womens ,but i have to say, womens tend to ask for equality and respect, and tend to act like godly beings
They want to work the same jobs as mens do with the same pay but WITHOUT the troubles.
If a girl harass you,she dont get any troubles , just try to do the same to a women, and you end in troubles
etc etc etc...
i can go for an hour with a full list of arguments but i know , some feminazis here are already foaming with rage
I dont see any respect here, i just can see a difference in matter of treatment
To a certain extent , is it not also tainting a childs innocence to bombard a 4/5/6/7 year old with "Signs of a Sexually Depraved Person"?? Or should we insist that any man studying to be a teacher has to go through additional therapy training ?
"Media are crucial to constraining men to seeing violent masculinity as the cultural norm -- there is a growing connection in society betwen being a man and being violent (lots of statistics about men being the violent ones -- 85% of murders are by men; 95% domestic violence is by men; 99% of rapes in prison are by men, etc.)
Men perpetrate 90% of the violence in society, and society (in media especially) tends to focus on the subordinated groups, not the dominant ones. The invisibility of masculinity is played out -- media say it is "kids killing kids" --not that it is boys killing boys and girls, not girls doing the killing -- and so must be tied to masculinity. "
The director/reseracher implies that if you don't say it, you leave out the important element in the subsequent discussion, and I agree. It is noted that when women are violent, it is almost always an important part of the story ; we need to make it visible -- Making how violent masculinity is visible is the first step to seeing how it operates in the culture.
Can the mass numbers of pedophiles , rapists, domestic assaulters,and violent criminals be attributed to men suffering from an identity chrises?
Are "boys being boys" , upholding a self damaging paradigm that society has molded for them Killing our world?
it can only be seen Not as a diesease- but as a symptom of the impossilbe standard of "masculinity" and how it is damaging our men , women and children repeatedly.
Originally posted by iamconcerned
reply to post by kokoro
I certainly don't hate women, and if you look at any patent site, you will see that 90% of the patents are from men. Women are definitely smart, they just don't create/invent wealth on the same scale. If my 'butthurt' ramblings make just one person think twice about signing up for the slavery that is marriage, then i've done my job Enjoy your cats and dwindling benefits
Originally posted by NorEaster
...and the guys seem to be holding the edge in this particular theater of competition.
Man, talk about illustrating the point about extreme competitiveness. Wow.
In this case, members took the bait by reading the offensive title and instead the body of the (poorly written) text offered something a bit different that didn't really explain a whole lot but could maybe be justified if these issues were massively elaborated and explored in the way I just suggested. It's extremely obvious trolling. Actually this stuff is not really new - I browse several forums that talk about social issues, it is very well known that some feminists, their supporters or simple trolls attempt to troll forums using various tactics such as switch-and-bait, editing their posts after replies have been added which changes the apparent context of the replies, or by simply being as offensive as possible. The backlash, the angry and frustrated replies to said trolling are then posted elsewhere completely out of context in an effort to prove that said website or group of people are "misogynist" or in an attempt to prove the trolls point.
Bait-and-switch is a form of fraud, most commonly used in retail sales but also applicable to other contexts. First, customers are "baited" by advertising for a product or service at a low price; second, the customers discover that the advertised good is not available and are "switched" to a costlier product.
Originally posted by Starchild23
And another thing. If you really want to talk about this "masculinity paradigm" crap...
I have noticed that while females want to have the same rights as men, they still prefer to be treated like china. In other words, they want to choose whether to be responsible or not, and interchange it day to day. They want to live the heavenly life, while men have no choice but to slave away.
IT amuses them, it relaxes them, it pleases them, whatever.
No. No, no, and NO! You don't get it both ways. If we work, you work. If you play, we can play too. If you want to go out and buy a new pair of shoes every weekend, we can go and splurge at the bar every friday and saturday. We are not your personal slaves, and you are not goddesses who can choose the schedule fate gives you.
You are not special. You are human, just like all of us. Live life like the rest of us, with its ups and downs. Stop playing mental games, and stop seeing problems where there are none. Stop picking fights to take out your frustrations, and start realizing the guy you're dating is a douche, and that man who's been your best friend for years is secretly in love with you.
You pretend you know everything, you get insulted when someone implies you don't...get with the program: YOU ARE HUMAN.
Start acting like it, and stop playing, "Little Miss Gift to the World." You are not perfect, and neither is your life. Accept it. And here's my little confession: sometimes, I think women act the way they do because they are the most insecure of them all. They feel the need to doll up and play games and do whatever...because they are lost and insecure.
Maybe if they stopped pretending to be helpless females, they might not be insecure, and then we'd all be happy HUMANS. Female =/= Insecure. Stop acting like it does. If you wanted to rule the world, you could, just like any man. Don't act weak, don't act coy, don't be anything except a strong woman, because no woman is incapable. Look at Stephen Hawking! He's a man, and he's crippled, and he's a freakin' genius! Now you're a healthy woman, full of life and vigor, and you can't do as well as he has? Bull#!
Stop playing at being the damsel in distress. Stop playing at being high and mighty. Just...BE. Be yourself. Be strong. Be human.
I'm finished here...I'll leave it to the other men to get their points across. I just thought if someone was going to start a feminism thread, I would interject some masculinity in the interest of equality.
Namaste.edit on CFridaypm070700f00America/Chicago24 by Starchild23 because: (no reason given)edit on CFridaypm525204f04America/Chicago24 by Starchild23 because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by AwakeinNM
That's what the liberal, everyone-should-be-gay socialist narrative would have you think.
Emasculate the men through cultural propaganda and pharmaceuticals and you end up with a passive, apathetic population that is easy to control.
Looks like you bought that bill of goods with cash money. Bravo.