I am a man. Approximately 20 years old. I have always treated the sexes equally. In the media and in education I have only
heard about the
issues women are facing, none about those facing men. For example, the fact that the vast majority of teachers are women and it has been shown that
women teachers are biased slightly against boys. Or the vast majority of suicides are by young men around my age. Or men get far longer sentences for
crime. I could go on but I don't think it would be appropriate. And you know what happens when these concerns are raised? We get told
simply to "man up" or are told that issues can only
So I log on and I see the title - "Men (Masculinity) Dangerous to Society?". Do you know how that makes me feel? The best two words I could come up
with are extremely alienated and dehumanized, because it is essentially against everything I stand for and essentially insults me. I am offended. I am
beginning to understand why so many young men kill themselves because uh... well I can certainly see why they don't want to live on this planet
anymore. In any case, the OP must be extremely
silly to not foresee that this would have a lot of backlash (which by the way, is to the
detriment of her cause - why would I support it if it basically insults me?), if this was not her intent (more on this later).
Regarding the issue itself, well let's use an example. Non-Hispanic blacks accounted for 39.4% of the total prison and jail population in 2009 yet
blacks (including Hispanic blacks) comprise 12.6% of the population. Do we therefore simply state that black people and black culture are dangerous to
society? No. That would be silly and would itself create enormous backlash. Instead issues like this need to be treated as the social issues that they
are. In other words, the reasons
for some of these statistics need to be explained and corrections found. Thankfully after reading the body of
the thread the OP sort-of got at this with the final paragraph stating that "it can only be seen Not as a diesease - but as a symptom of the
impossilbe standard of "masculinity" and how it is damaging our men, women and children repeatedly." This needs to be elaborated on. So do the other
issues like the ones I raised in the first paragraph that could actually cause men to be violent.
However as shown the title was different to the body which makes me believe this is a classic troll thread using bait-and-switch tactics. Wikipedia
explains it well:
Bait-and-switch is a form of fraud, most commonly used in retail sales but also applicable to other contexts. First, customers
are "baited" by advertising for a product or service at a low price; second, the customers discover that the advertised good is not available and are
"switched" to a costlier product.
In this case, members took the bait by reading the offensive title and instead the body of the
(poorly written) text offered something a bit different that didn't really explain a whole lot but could maybe be justified if these issues were
massively elaborated and explored in the way I just suggested. It's extremely obvious trolling. Actually this stuff is not really new - I browse
several forums that talk about social issues, it is very well known that some
feminists, their supporters or simple trolls attempt to troll
forums using various tactics such as switch-and-bait, editing their posts after replies have been added which changes the apparent context of the
replies, or by simply being as offensive as possible. The backlash, the angry and frustrated replies to said trolling are then posted elsewhere
completely out of context in an effort to prove that said website or group of people are "misogynist" or in an attempt to prove the trolls point.
I find it extremely hard to believe the OP is not
trolling because as stated it is simply obvious what would happen due to the title.
Therefore, this thread needs to be locked for:
1: Being misleading and inaccurate.
2: Being offensive.
3. Probably Trolling and baiting.
4. Being bigoted.
5. To send the message that this will not be tolerated.
The OP should be able to repost it when the issues that I have outlined are fixed, else the thread should die. If the thread is reposted without the
issues being fixed then the user should be permanently banned. I see threads posted here that are simply obvious trolling, I might create a thread
about how to recognise trolling actually. I'm tired so apologies if the last couple of paragraphs were not too good.
edit on 25/2/12 by C0bzz
because: (no reason given)