Men (Masculinity) Dangerous to Society?

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posted on Feb, 25 2012 @ 04:06 AM
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Originally posted by Starchild23
And here come the -

*gets run over by a stampede of men*

Seriously, can the sexism in this thread get any thicker? You just opened a can of ungodly stink, ma'am.

Every man came from a woman, and every woman was made by a man. One person has genitalia that pokes out, the other has genitalia that pokes in. What's the real difference between the two? Both live and die. Neither is special, and neither is better than the other. Without men, women wouldn't exist. And without women, men wouldn't exist. Get over yourself, and let's all be happy together.

Sometimes, I think sexism is insecurity in its purest form...


And women wonder why men are always frustrated? Stop degrading them!
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I agree. It boils down to the individual. I would never commit violence that wasn't necessary, but I would protect my family, yes.




posted on Feb, 25 2012 @ 04:46 AM
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Anyone who claims women are not capable of vindictiveness or aggression, is deluded. The only real difference is their modus operandi; women will generally stick exclusively to psychological and/or social abuse. Feminists then try and behave as though those things are irrelevant, at least when women engage in them.

A man will physically bash someone to death, directly. An equally spiteful woman will psychologically (verbally) abuse, manipulate, and generally torture someone to the point of inducing mental illness, and/or eventual suicide. Women also engage in social warfare; they can destroy relationships, and spread lies about someone which will destroy the target's reputation within a given group, or their position in a social hierarchy. They can and will also manipulate the legal system, for various destructive reasons.

So the only real difference is tactical. Women are a lot more subtle, and less direct, but in many cases the end result is more or less the same. Suicides, broken relationships, men denied of access to children, homelessness/economic ruin due to financial stripping of someone, legal destruction of men due to false claims of rape. In some cases, simply being physically beaten to death, would probably be more humane.
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posted on Feb, 25 2012 @ 05:01 AM
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I wonder why the men are denied access to their children.
False rape charges, you mean not proved in a court of law, it does not mean rape did not occur.

Did you see this;
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posted on Feb, 25 2012 @ 05:12 AM
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Originally posted by AussieAmandaC
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You are no ordinary man, you are a god.
Please don't ask for excitement through chaos, be loved, give love, isn't that enough?
Can it ever be enough for the warrior inside your heart?


Struggle is the essence of existance. If a muscle encounters no resistance it withers and dies. If we do not use our minds they turn to mush. For me not to explore the potential of my being is blasphemy to me... But what a world I would have us live in... Am I wrong?

You sound like you speak experience. Am I wrong to desire to be everything I am able to be, both good and evil? Why should love and enlightenment be the only path for learning and growth?
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posted on Feb, 25 2012 @ 05:17 AM
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Desire equals fear and is the path of pain and struggle. If you like pain i see no problem.
Eat from the tree of knowlegde or the tree of life.
Do you really want evil?
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posted on Feb, 25 2012 @ 05:24 AM
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Originally posted by Itisnowagain
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Desire equals fear and is the path of pain and struggle. If you like pain i see no problem.
Eat from the tree of knowlegde or the tree of life.


Are you suggesting that the quest of the warrior comes from a place of fear, pain and unresolved emotional issues?



posted on Feb, 25 2012 @ 05:27 AM
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Going through the Gender Biased Court system showed me that Fathers have basically no rights. What little rights granted,I was labeled guilty when there was no crime committed. Just like alimony,I had to PAY to get my children,from mothers who gave up on their children,but still wanted all the benefits of my hard earned money.So yes,The system is designed to keep men in check.Women can be vindictive,when they have the law on their side.....I have witnessed it twice in my lifetime.
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posted on Feb, 25 2012 @ 05:28 AM
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The word 'warrior' means warlike, if you want to go to war who are you fighting? Only your own demons.
Do you really need to stuggle to be alive? Or are you life.
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posted on Feb, 25 2012 @ 05:38 AM
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Originally posted by Itisnowagain
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The word 'warrior' means warlike, if you want to go to war who are you fighting? Only your own demons.
Do you really need to stuggle to be alive? Or are you life.
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So the ancient proverbs are true... The greatest battle to fight and win is victory over my own self and nature? What battle am I fighting then I wonder? How do I indentify which parts of me need subjugating? What would be my measuring stick? My guide?



posted on Feb, 25 2012 @ 05:42 AM
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Be what you are!! What are you though? That is the question.
Humans 'think' they are more than one. They talk to themselves, they are divided.
Be the one not the two. When you know you are one who is there to conflict with. When the 'interior' conflict ends, all conflict ends.



posted on Feb, 25 2012 @ 05:47 AM
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'Inside' it appears there is a bully and a victim. The bully is the parental influence that you heard and grew up under and the victim is the child you were under the parental influence.
Both of these can be watched.
The one watching and hearing the two fight is silent and peaceful. The silent one is the true one.

Do not fight with them just watch them, be amused.
One is amused.
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posted on Feb, 25 2012 @ 05:48 AM
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Originally posted by Itisnowagain
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Be what you are!! What are you though? That is the question.
Humans 'think' they are more than one. They talk to themselves, they are divided.
Be the one not the two. When you know you are one who is there to conflict with. When the 'interior' conflict ends, all conflict ends.


You are quite the enigma... I'm not sure I fully understand what you are saying but you have certainly given me a lot to think about.

Thankyou...



posted on Feb, 25 2012 @ 05:50 AM
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Be what you are:
youtu.be...

Speaking/language makes us think there is someone there;
youtu.be...
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posted on Feb, 25 2012 @ 06:06 AM
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Problem isn't masculinity, it's our society teaches boys to suppress any and all traits that isn't hypermasculine. Those boys grow to become men who are slaves to gender roles. If they took on a job deemed unmanly society degrades them for it.

So masculinity never was the issue. Society is some ways shapes boys to be hypermasculine animals in a state of endlessly trying to prove their flawed idea of masculinity with violence society pounded into their heads. Boys are never told to embrace and balance the masculine and feminine energy within themselves.



posted on Feb, 25 2012 @ 06:17 AM
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It has always been your choice to live how you choose, and what type of human you will be including what you explore within yourself and utilise.
I can tell you first hand you will be made to swear to that which will take hold if you play, the wrong way. The choice is yours though.
You can also choose to keep coming back to make the same mistakes, it is your right as an individual energy.

So love is truly not enough...? That perfect memory of the perfect day with the perfect person, which seems timeless, that is not enough? Looking at the perfection you created just by making love is not enough?
What more is there?
Just for your reference, there was never meant to be such struggle.



posted on Feb, 25 2012 @ 06:20 AM
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Being is here and now. Be here and now or hide in time.



posted on Feb, 25 2012 @ 06:20 AM
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Really? Do you live in an alternate universe or something? Maybe a different country? Because I see quite the opposite. Males are punished for doing things that come naturally to them, such as fighting. Told it is bad. Why do you think so many men go off the deep end? They have not found an outlet for their male urges, it bottles up, the cap will blow eventually.



posted on Feb, 25 2012 @ 06:26 AM
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So you 'think' men are naturally fighters, then the thread title is spot on.
Men are taught to fight, Action Man toys and guns are given to little boys and they are discouraged from being a sissy. How could tptb play their war games if men weren't grown as fighters?
You are a battery for the system until you see the system for what it is.
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posted on Feb, 25 2012 @ 06:32 AM
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Originally posted by andersensrm
Its not about getting rid of men, rather men getting rid of their primitive tendencies to be the alpha male, and all that goes along, such as dominence, reputation, etc. etc.


Meanwhile in the real world, nurses still marry doctors and girls can't resist a bad boy.

What exactly is the feminist contribution to society except bitching about men?



posted on Feb, 25 2012 @ 06:34 AM
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Women give birth to men.
Without the woman who birthed you what would you be?

It wasn't until December 1993, the United Nations High Commissioner for Human Rights published the Declaration on the Elimination of Violence Against Women. This establishes marital rape as a human rights violation.

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