If the suspect drew a gun, than it was suicide by default. Of course, on the video presented we can't actually see if he had his gun out or not.

I would like to agree with your opinion. However, the only thing that is bugging me is that the vehicle was at a complete stand still.

Could the person have been scared realizing the position he was in and just froze trying to surrender? I am all for caution when determining the intentions of a percieved dangerous suspect, but they lit that car up. Perhaps if the car was about to drive away then i can see this happening, but being completely stopped, i am not to sure if the actions were justified.

Again i have no clue what the officers had observed, or previous knowledge they had on the suspect.

It all comes down to a judgement call.

My opinion is dont put yourself in situations like that and you wont get shot. I.e. dont commit crime lol

EDIT: However if you are going to commit crime, make sure your 100% sure you can get away

Sweet, gore porn!

Once again the police exercised extreme caution as they unloaded dozens of rounds right next to the gasoline pumps. I think I'd buy an electric car after that if I was that poor guy pumping gas for his car.

Thanks for the catch here and your take on it in particular. Given what we can see here, I'd call it Justice served and 1 down with MANY yet to go. My sympathy for violent predators runs about as far as a rabid dog being shot down for the good of everyone else.

He could have simply chosen not to be a predator that evening and refrain from carjacking innocent people. He could have chosen not to run. He could have put his arms out the drivers window as even a noob knows from watching TV is what they want to see....and I'll bet this was no noob out for his first trip in into the system.

It's a shame that carjacking had to carry the death penalty...but Suicide by Cop is what I think of as a more fitting description.

Originally posted by VonDoomen
Sweet, gore porn!

lol you virgin

go gets you a real gore...

Originally posted by boncho
If the suspect drew a gun, than it was suicide by default. Of course, on the video presented we can't actually see if he had his gun out or not.

Well we do not know that part..

They *found* a gun. I could not find anywhere
if the guy had it out or pulled it.

But knowing a guy like that i'm sure he would have
had no beefs with using it. He was asking for trouble..

I thought they had this 30 second delay rule where they
could not show these on live TV?

Maybe he ran out of gas and was going to fuel up?

They said is was a *slow pursuit*.

Did notice that the guy who got away could of
very easily been blown to pieces from a bullet
hitting one of the gas lines...

This guy is more swiss then cheese now..

Car thief plus maniac with gun.

I see no wrong here.

at all.

Originally posted by mainidh
Car thief plus maniac with gun.

I see no wrong here.

at all.

Put yourself in the situation for a moment

How would you attempt to surrender if you had a change of heart all of a sudden?

I would pull over, and try to obey instruction, but sometimes fear gets the best of us, and a potential result of freezing and not following instructions is to get shot 50 times

Officers chased the suspect, a man in his 20s, through parts of Los Angeles for more than an hour Thursday after a witness reported a carjacking at a gas station at Eastern Avenue and Valley Boulevard

20's young and stupid. Sadly for him , he learned the really hard way .

L.A , drugs , gangs , guns rampid. Police don't take chances in these types of places , High crime , High gang activity . Police were being percautious , and the kid should've known that . Not to be making foolish moves.

I hope his little buddies see this video , and opt out of gang life.

I hope we get dash cam footage for better prespective , but so far imo . Justified.

Another case , of the police keeping the streets safe for the rest of us .

Serving and protecting !

They sure served that guy huh

The suspect expired at the scene..

Wow what a comment!

Originally posted by MDDoxs

Originally posted by mainidh
Car thief plus maniac with gun.

I see no wrong here.

at all.

Put yourself in the situation for a moment

How would you attempt to surrender if you had a change of heart all of a sudden?

I would pull over, and try to obey instruction, but sometimes fear gets the best of us, and a potential result of freezing and not following instructions is to get shot 50 times

edit on 24-2-2012 by MDDoxs because: (no reason given)

Well he wasnt shot for just sitting there, as I would if I had a change of heart.

He was waving the gun at people.

I'd sit in the car, and do everything I was told, knowing I was royally screwed.

Not sure what else i/he could have done, but I don't see this as an execution.

Where did you get the idea that it is legal for cops to shoot a suspect because he's trying to drive away from them?

If the path of the car is where the officers are standing or if his driving threatens the life of civilians.

Originally posted by MDDoxs

Originally posted by mainidh
Car thief plus maniac with gun.

I see no wrong here.

at all.

Put yourself in the situation for a moment

How would you attempt to surrender if you had a change of heart all of a sudden?

I would pull over, and try to obey instruction, but sometimes fear gets the best of us, and a potential result of freezing and not following instructions is to get shot 50 times

edit on 24-2-2012 by MDDoxs because: (no reason given)

Stop defending the guy, unless he was severely mentally handicapped if you want to surrender you drop the damn weapon and I'm sure the police told him that several times. If you're in a gun battle with someone would you just fire one shot not knowing if you hit him with the chance that he could return fire or would you make sure he went down? One less savage A-hole going around car jacking people at gun point in my opinion.

For those who are bashing the cops, yet again...I have a serious question to ask. There was an innocent person gassing his car next to where this mutt decided to stop and make his stand. What would we all be saying if the cops DID give the violent felon (He's proven that already..carjacking, remember?) the opportunity to fire his weapon...JUST ONCE...and that ONCE happened to hit the innocent guy before the cops could return fire??

That guys family would be crushed...and buried in Lawyers today looking to represent the mega-millions suit and the majority here would be calling for some cops to lose their heads over their failure to protect an innocent by playing with a bad guy 'too long'.

They're damned if they do and damned if they don't. In this case any going by only what we DO know on this thread and video, it looks about as clear a case of a *GOOD SHOOT* as we ever see these days. Why not just give the cops credit for being the good guys for a change? They seem to have earned it, just this once.