Originally posted by paleorchid13
reply to post by mars1
The Vatican is already requesting to examine it ....
An interesting theory on the book ...
Some media reports also said the copy of Bible in Ankara may be a copy of the much-debated Gospel of Barnabas, which Muslims claim is an original gospel that was later suppressed; the oldest copies of this gospel date back to the 16th century and are written in Italian and Spanish. However, the Gospel of Barnabas is not included in the four gospels that currently comprise the canonical New Testament -- Matthew, Mark, Luke and John. The Gospel of Barnabas contradicts the canonical New Testament account of Jesus and his ministry but has strong parallels with the Islamic view of Jesus. Much of its content and themes parallel Islamic ideas, and it includes a prediction by Jesus of the Prophet
Written in gold lettering got my attention right away, and for personal reasons I have reason to believe that there is something in there I would want to see. Cool find!edit on 24-2-2012 by paleorchid13 because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by TruthSeekerMike
Will those who think this may reveal that today's Bible is bs reconsider their agnosticism if it turns out to be the same Bible as today? I'm betting it will be---with the so-called apocrypha.
Secret £14million Bible in which 'Jesus predicts coming of Prophet Muhammad' unearthed in Turkey
Pope Benedict XVI is claimed to want to see the 1,500-year-old book, which many say is the Gospel of Barnabas, that has been hidden by the Turkish state for the last 12 years.
It rejects the ideas of the Holy Trinity and the Crucifixion and reveals that Jesus predicted the coming of the Prophet Muhammad.
Despite the interest in the newly re-discovered book, some believe it is a fake and only dates back to the 16th century.
Originally posted by openeyeswideshut
reply to post by mars1
Here's the thing that gets me.
It's still written 500 years after christ died. Now I know thats better than what we have today, BUT you have to realize that lots of manipulation in the bible came from Paul's way of teaching in Rome.
This however is written in aramaic which could lead to the possibility that it isn't of Roman influence(can't be for sure), but I would make a bet that this is closer to the actual teachings of Jesus than we've ever known... Save maybe the Vatican archives. Heaven forbid the Vatican actually tells the truth about Jesus
The Bible reportedly contains early teachings of Jesus Christ and is written in gold lettering on animal hide in Syriac, a dialect of Aramaic, which was the native tongue of Jesus.
In it, Jesus is said to have predicted the coming of the Prophet Muhammad.
According to Luxenberg, the Qur'an was not written in classical Arabic but in a mixed Arabic-Syriac language, the traders' language of Mecca and it was based on Christian liturgical texts.
When the final text of the Qur'an was codified, those working on it did not understand the original sense and meaning of this hybrid trading language any more, and they forcefully and randomly turned it into classical Arabic. This gave rise to a lot of misinterpretations. Something like this can only have happened if there was a gap in the oral transmission of the Qur'anic text. That idea is in serious disagreement with the views of both traditional Muslims and western scholars of Islam.
According to Luxenberg the word "al-qur'an" is derived from the Aramaic word "qeryan-a" meaning ‘lectionary’ a book of liturgical readings. This book was a Syro-Aramaic lectionary, with hymns and Biblical extracts, created for use in Christian services.
This Arabic lectionary is a trace of the pre-Islamic, Christian past of certain Arab communities, who were amongst the first Christians. It was not meant to start a new religion, but a legacy of an older one. It is accepted by scholars and orientalists internationally that the word "qur'an" (without the article l-) is derived from the Arabic root word "qara'a", which means reading. Luxenberg's Aramaic "qeryan" (without the article -a) is also derived from the same, shared Semitic root Q-R-' "reading", as is obvious from the translation "lectionary", "a text for reading".
Originally posted by mars1
Originally posted by ColCurious
reply to post by mars1
why is it a big deal from the religious point of view?
It's still 500 years too young to be considered as a historically accurate reference to anything within the christian mythology anyways.
Like I said in my OP I am not religious but if this is translated it could give a totally different story to the one we know there is talk that the bible we have now is mistranslated.
There could be things in there that are unknown to us who knows but I think this is a big deal and many more will.
We will have to wait and see what happens with this.
Turkish Cypriot authorities seized the relic last week and nine individuals are in custody pending further investigations.
More individuals are being sought in connection with the find, they said. Further investigations turned up a prayer statue and a stone carving of Jesus believed to be from a church in the Turkish held north, as well as dynamite.
The police have charged the detainees with smuggling antiquities, illegal excavations and the possession of explosives.