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Originally posted by Xcathdra
reply to post by Dimitri Dzengalshlevi
So because you are completely clueless and ignorant of US law, UCMJ and treaties, that somehow makes you an expert to continually attack me?
Aside from having an issue with me, do you have any opinion on the op? Or when you complained about the thread being derailed by people, you meant everyone but you? All I see from you is jealousy and nothing more.
Please explain why you think Manning was right or wrong and what charges / penalty he should face and why?
Originally posted by Dimitri Dzengalshlevi
I felt the need to post this, not so much for the sake of Bradley Manning, but rather for the sake of the nature of these charges.
He was charged with "aiding the enemy". What this means is that the US government has an identified enemy that Manning aided. Who is this enemy of the USA?
These documents were provided to wikileaks, which is an organization that releases secret documents to the public.
Is it just me, or did the US government just formally acknowledge that the public is their enemy? That we, the citizens of the world, are the enemy of the USA state?
I thought America was at war with terrorists and drug dealers, hense the "War on Terror" and "War on Drugs". But apparently, they just confirmed that they are at war against humanity.
news.nationalpost.co m
(visit the link for the full news article)
Originally posted by Laxpla
So if I was a worker at Los Alamos and released papers on the process of manufactuing the B-2 stealth coatings to wikileaks, is he aiding the enemy?edit on 25-2-2012 by Laxpla because: (no reason given)
Any person who–
(1) aids, or attempts to aid, the enemy with arms, ammunition, supplies, money, or other things; or
(2) without proper authority, knowingly harbors or [protects or gives intelligence to or communicates or corresponds with or holds any intercourse with the enemy, either directly or indirectly;
shall suffer death or such other punishment as a court-martial or military commission may direct.
Originally posted by Dimitri Dzengalshlevi
Originally posted by Laxpla
So if I was a worker at Los Alamos and released papers on the process of manufactuing the B-2 stealth coatings to wikileaks, is he aiding the enemy?edit on 25-2-2012 by Laxpla because: (no reason given)
Not unless wikileaks was officially declared an enemy of the US government.
I'll say it again: Manning didn't give the documents to the "terrorists" that the US is at war with, unless the US has suddenly broadened the definition of terrorists to include Wikileaks.
Understand the area for concern?
Any person who–
(1) aids, or attempts to aid, the enemy with arms, ammunition, supplies, money, or other things; or
(2) without proper authority, knowingly harbors or [protects or gives intelligence to or communicates or corresponds with or holds any intercourse with the enemy, either directly or indirectly;
shall suffer death or such other punishment as a court-martial or military commission may direct.
Originally posted by Xcathdra
A group does NOT have to be declared an enemy of the US government. This is why I post the laws.. Its done because you have no interest in the truth, only in attacking the US government and its actions.
Originally posted by spocksleftear
And what you fail to understand is that it would be impossible for manning to sort through all that data himself. How do you suggest he could possibly have dealt with that much information himself. Seriously.
Originally posted by spocksleftear
Also, the ease with which you paint manning is pretty disgusting. I mean have you even read the chat logs?
en.wikipedia.org...
He said he hoped the material would lead to "worldwide discussion, debates, and reforms," and if not we're "doomed as a species...". He .........snipped for room...
Originally posted by spocksleftear
Shame on you.
Originally posted by DrNotforhire
Just aiding the enemy?
Oh well... He'll never see the light of day again... That's a nice victory!