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Cloud Tops Dropping Closer to Earth, NASA Satellite Finds

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posted on Mar, 1 2012 @ 02:35 PM
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Interesting, this ties in to the military use of "chemtrails".

I don't see anything about "chemtrails".




posted on Mar, 1 2012 @ 02:45 PM
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Thanks for posting that article with the photos.

Yes, they are used to obscure radar images as it explains this in the article. I believe this is the first step towards using this technology for warfare purposes. As long as they can use chemical trails and chemclouds to block the enemy's view, they will not cease using them and seeing what else they can accomplish with the same technology.



posted on Mar, 1 2012 @ 02:52 PM
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That's why "chemtrails", which block enemy radar, are being distributed all over the U.S. (and other NATO countries)?

I wonder what air traffic controllers think about that.

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posted on Mar, 1 2012 @ 02:58 PM
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Could be.
I don't know any air traffic controllers, but considering most of them work in airports and the dispersants are released at 30,000 feet, I don't believe they would interfere with their duties.



posted on Mar, 1 2012 @ 03:08 PM
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You believe wrong. ATC controls more airspace than that near airports.
Any aircraft flying at an altitude of higher than 18,000 feet (and below 60,000) is required to fly under Instrument Flight Rules (IFR). ATC tracks IFR traffic.


3-2-2. Class A Airspace

a.Definition. Generally, that airspace from 18,000 feet MSL up to and including FL 600, including the airspace overlying the waters within 12 nautical miles of the coast of the 48 contiguous States and Alaska; and designated international airspace beyond 12 nautical miles of the coast of the 48 contiguous States and Alaska within areas of domestic radio navigational signal or ATC radar coverage, and within which domestic procedures are applied.

www.faa.gov...
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posted on Mar, 1 2012 @ 03:12 PM
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Thanks for the lesson. I freely admit that I know nothing about aviation regulations.

At least we now know that clouds are manufactured to disrupt radar and satellite images. Considering the products that are used in these manmade clouds, this would explain why cloud are falling closer to Earth, no? They are obviously not composed of just water molecules, which cause them to be heavier.



posted on Mar, 1 2012 @ 03:16 PM
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Originally posted by Phage

I wonder what air traffic controllers think about that.


They know its Classified. What else is there to think?



posted on Mar, 1 2012 @ 03:16 PM
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At least we now know that clouds are manufactured to disrupt radar and satellite images

Clouds do not affect radar, neither natural ones or contrails.
Yes, contrails appear on satellite images but as far as "disrupting" them, no more so than natural clouds.



posted on Mar, 1 2012 @ 03:19 PM
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What else is there to think?


Oh, maybe something like "Dang, I wonder where AA1308 is. He should be crossing under UAL298 but I can't see either of them on my radar because of those danged 'chemtrails'".


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posted on Mar, 1 2012 @ 03:19 PM
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Originally posted by Phage
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Any aircraft flying at an altitude of higher than 18,000 feet (and below 60,000) is required to fly under Instrument Flight Rules (IFR). ATC tracks IFR traffic.



Instrument Flight Rules ...so a pilot must have an Instrument Rating.
So what?



posted on Mar, 1 2012 @ 03:20 PM
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ATC tracks IFR traffic.

That would be tracking with radar.



posted on Mar, 1 2012 @ 03:24 PM
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And secondary surveillance (transponders) and some time "soon" NexGen using ADS-B



posted on Mar, 1 2012 @ 03:25 PM
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Originally posted by Phage

Oh, maybe something like "Dang, I wonder where AA1308 is. He should be crossing under UAL298 but I can't see either of them on my radar" because of those danged "chemtrails".



That "hollywood" example....hilarious.
C17, C130 pilots in the Air Force I doubt that.

Decoys at this point.



posted on Mar, 1 2012 @ 03:25 PM
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Originally posted by burntheships

Originally posted by Phage

I wonder what air traffic controllers think about that.


They know its Classified. What else is there to think?


nothing - because there is nothing actually happening.



posted on Mar, 1 2012 @ 03:29 PM
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C17, C130 pilots in the Air Force I doubt that.

Decoys at this point.

What?



posted on Mar, 1 2012 @ 03:32 PM
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Originally posted by Afterthought
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Could be.
I don't know any air traffic controllers, but considering most of them work in airports and the dispersants are released at 30,000 feet, I don't believe they would interfere with their duties.


Belief has nothing to do with it - this stuff is all published and known.

ATC controls airspace a lot higher than 30,000 feet - see wiki article - up to FL 660 in Germany and UK (66,000 feet) for Class C, no upper limit in Australia (Class A), up to FL 600 (60,000 feet) in USA.

I have a New Zealand Airspace chart in front of me - upper limit is FL 600 - 60,000 feet.

Some of my colleagues are laughingly telling me that Concorde used to fly in uncontrolled airspace & use the uncontrolled frequencies normally the preserve of "bug smashers" to great amusement of all



posted on Mar, 1 2012 @ 03:36 PM
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Originally posted by Aloysius the Gaul

nothing - because there is nothing actually happening.


Yep, thats the Air Force, doing nothing all of the time.


Man you guys get really off topic with the trawling.
Nice try though.



posted on Mar, 1 2012 @ 03:41 PM
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Wait.
You think the Air Force handles ATC?



posted on Mar, 1 2012 @ 03:50 PM
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Originally posted by Phage

You think the Air Force handles ATC?


The Air Force and any other such as the Navy would have a block
to do manuevers. You have heard of training areas no?

www.cnic.navy.mil...

Far off topic so I am done with it.

Unless of course you think that while they are up there
they are in the process of cirrus clould modification.
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posted on Mar, 1 2012 @ 03:54 PM
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I'm still missing your point.
Don't "chemtrails" cover the skies of North America and Europe?




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