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Cloud Tops Dropping Closer to Earth, NASA Satellite Finds

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posted on Feb, 23 2012 @ 11:02 PM
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Originally posted by ProudBird
reply to post by Afterthought
 



Really? Some people need to get a grip on reality, and stop with the reactionary over-reaching.




Yeah, for sure. Its probably just another Climate Gate.
Either that or....?




posted on Feb, 23 2012 @ 11:04 PM
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No hoax. It makes clouds.I take it you are gonna be the shill here?



posted on Feb, 23 2012 @ 11:08 PM
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Well if the clouds get any lower it definitely won't be a good outcome when the storms hit us. Maybe that's why everyone is getting those bunkers ready.



posted on Feb, 23 2012 @ 11:18 PM
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Average "lower" GLOBAL cloud height of about 100 feet? In ten years?? (Hint...that is 10 feet per year)>

Hurry, Chicken Little! Run, Run!



posted on Feb, 23 2012 @ 11:20 PM
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It does NOT make "clouds"....it produces a lot of smoke. Read the bloody information on it.

And it is a LIE in the video......this machine exists only in Russia. Read the damn info!



posted on Feb, 23 2012 @ 11:21 PM
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I think that over-reaction to this extremely minor and ultimately useless (without more data) finding will be used for "Climate Gate" purposes, on both sides......pseudo-science in all its glory, yes....



posted on Feb, 23 2012 @ 11:25 PM
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Well there is only one agenda behind Climate Gate.
Sure, Medusa has a lot of tenticles.

Global Warming is one of them, and so is the "fix",
Geoengineering.


Originally posted by ProudBird
this extremely minor and ultimately useless (without more data) finding will be used for "Climate Gate" purposes,


Yep, thats NASA for you...why they would waste time and money on a study that is
an over reaction....far be it from me unless they maybe have an agenda.

Yah, NASA is funded often times by the same folks who fund the Global Warming Religion.
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posted on Feb, 23 2012 @ 11:33 PM
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There clouds! Smoke or not! Ever hear of a smoke cloud?
End discussion. NO soup for you! Now go away. Man ATS needs a ignore button. In other words STFU!
EDIT: And what kind of dummy thinks that what russians have we don't have two of?
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posted on Feb, 23 2012 @ 11:57 PM
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There is also an increase in man made clouds from ships as seen in these NASA images.

visibleearth.nasa.gov...

www.livescience.com...




NO soup for you!




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posted on Feb, 24 2012 @ 01:28 AM
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Most of the reduction stemmed from fewer clouds forming at very high altitudes.


I thought people were complaining about "chemtrails" causing more high altitude clouds. You know, the ones that persist and spread and cover the sky like they never did in the past. So here comes a study which finds that there may be fewer high altitude clouds and the bandwagon changes?

Interesting.

The conclusion from the actual article.

Ten years is unfortunately too short a span for any definitive conclusion, as the linear trend in global cloud height of -44 +/- 22 m over the last decade is partly influenced by the La Niña event, and may prove ephemeral.

www.worldclimatereport.com...

Interesting chart there showing that the apparent trend was quite strongly influenced by La Nina.
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posted on Feb, 24 2012 @ 01:43 AM
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Originally posted by ThirdRock69
There is also an increase in man made clouds from ships as seen in these NASA images.


Yes. An increase which began a long time ago.

This is one example of how humans have been creating and modifying clouds for generations through the burning of fossil fuels.

visibleearth.nasa.gov...



posted on Feb, 24 2012 @ 01:43 AM
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There is no bandwagon. You and your motley crew are the only ones truckin around every chemtrail thread.

Are you trying to say it has to be one or the other and it can not be both?

You shouldn't be so obvious a troll. You expose your true agenda.



posted on Feb, 24 2012 @ 01:45 AM
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It's trolling to point out what the report actually says?
It's trolling to point out the attempt to connect the report to "chemtrails"?

I see a few other familiar names trucking around this "chemtrail" thread and others. Why is it that only those who doubt the existence of "chemtrails" are trolling? Why is it that only skeptics are accused of having an agenda?



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posted on Feb, 24 2012 @ 01:51 AM
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I thought people were complaining about "chemtrails" causing more high altitude clouds. You know, the ones that persist and spread and cover the sky like they never did in the past. So here comes a study which finds that there may be fewer high altitude clouds and the bandwagon changes?


It's trolling when you come into a thread and your first comment is rude, condescending and arrogant.

It's trolling when you provide nothing new to add and start parroting copy and paste jobs from the OP.

It's Trolling when you at as if you are an expert when you're no more experienced than a common troll.



posted on Feb, 24 2012 @ 02:31 AM
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It does NOT make "clouds"....it produces a lot of smoke. Read the bloody information on it.



Can smoke released into the atmosphere produce clouds? Does smoke released into the atmosphere produce clouds?

Answer: YES

What's the point in you trying to confuse the truth? Oh yeah, disinformation.



posted on Feb, 24 2012 @ 09:02 AM
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There really is no bandwagon here. The argument has always been that we are seeing the sun blocked out more and more by these clouds that are seen to dissipate as they float closer to the ground.

The article's main focus is in regards to global warming. Is this a coincidence? Why are they not discussing humidity or a change in atmospheric pressure? Because they are warming us up to the idea of how they're going to curb global warming. They are going to use these types of "informative" studies to reveal what they have been planning all along. Those of us who understand the goal know that they have to use the boiling frog technique to ease people into the idea. As soon as they have conditioned the sheep into believing that they know best and here's the "proof", they will then tell us what they are going to do. Some of us believe that they have been attempting to counter the sun's rays already. Some don't believe this and any amount of provacative evidence is never going to be enough.

The sad fact is that they can't curb emissions AND keep us addicted to fossil fuels. If they would release Tesla technology, they wouldn't have to attempt global geoengineering. Since they aren't willing to change the technology we're currently using, this allows them to start tinkering and will make us believe that this is the only way to solve our problems. One example of this is how they insist on genetically engineering our food. Instead of simply using natural, tried and true methods to ward off insects, they tell us that growing pesticides in the vegetables is the best way to take care of the insect problem. It's no mistake that their solutions to problems cause more problems.

Here is the video I linked to in the thread about the cloud machine. Please don't avoid watching it simply because the title makes you uncomfortable.

Although it begins with Michio Kaku discussing the different types of civilizations, it then goes into how the cloud machine can make it rain. In regards to the different civilizations, yes, there is a type that can control the weather, but this is not for good intentions. This is a power trip for those who desire to be Gods. I believe a real enlightened society does not conceal information and does not have to manipulate a planet's natural processes. A truly enlightened being works with what the planet provides instead of wanting to harness control over it.

Essentially, we have a type 1 civilization already alive on this planet and they are working in the shadows. They want us to believe that they know best instead of doing what's best for the Earth and all mankind, they are only concerned with their own egos and satisfying their hunger for more power and control.



posted on Feb, 24 2012 @ 09:02 AM
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Originally posted by ThirdRock69
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It does NOT make "clouds"....it produces a lot of smoke. Read the bloody information on it.



Can smoke released into the atmosphere produce clouds? Does smoke released into the atmosphere produce clouds?


The difference is that smoke rapidly dissipates. Contrails (and other water-based clouds) can persist and spread.

Also, consider how much of a "cloud" that smoke machine would leave if it were moving at 500 mph. Somewhat thin, I think.



posted on Feb, 24 2012 @ 09:08 AM
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Originally posted by Afterthought
The article's main focus is in regards to global warming. Is this a coincidence? Why are they not discussing humidity or a change in atmospheric pressure?


Because average global temperature is a driving force in climate change. Pressure and humidity are just local variables that are affected by climate change.

You can't change the amount of water in the planet, nor can you change global atmospheric pressure. But by changing the amount of radiation absorbed, reflected and emitted by the earth you can change the average temperature, which changes the climate.



posted on Feb, 24 2012 @ 09:11 AM
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Originally posted by Afterthought

Although it begins with Michio Kaku discussing the different types of civilizations, it then goes into how the cloud machine can make it rain.


That's not a cloud machine. It's a giant rocket engine being tested. It burns hydrogen and oxygen, which makes water. Because it's not moving, the water accumulates locally, and some precipitates out as rain.

It's no more a "cloud machine" that a hosepipe is a "rain machine".



posted on Feb, 24 2012 @ 09:14 AM
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You didn't watch the video.
If you had, you would've seen that it did generate clouds that made it rain.



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