US, France, UK, Turkey, Italy prepare for military intervention in Syria

Originally posted by victor7
reply to post by Ben81

 

Regarding street fighting mercenaries:

in the US langauage they will be called the 'enemy combatants' and either killed on the streets or sent to Guantanamo base and kept there for long time without any trials.

They have already a name for that .. Terrorist from Al-qaeda

Could this be a trap to lure Russia into south theater of Syria and then attack it from west, i.e. Germany and Poland. No wonder Russian Chief of General Staff has said that Russia will use nukes to ward off enemies as it does not plan to fight the whole of NATO.

The trump card is with China. It has $3.2T in reserves and even $100B can get some really mean weapons to throw west off balance regarding their calculations. Crucial factor is also time. ICBMs do not come out in a week or so, they can take several months to build.

Russia should only support Syria with weapons, intelligence and third party troops like Iran or Armenia or others. No need for Russia + China to get involved in a hot war or send troops to a theater in chaos.

Originally posted by victor7
reply to post by Ben81

 

In Libya Russia and China remained playing 'good boys' till the very end. Will they remain the 'idiots' this time around too? It would be a massive blow to their interests and national security if Syria and Iran see a regime change and come under the western control. R+C should use force to thwart any arms supplies to rebels in Syria or Iran. At the very least they should provide intelligence and spec ops support to intercept these supplies and undo the western attempts to create civil war.

You know last time I checked a press pass isn't bullet proof. They know the risks when reporting from a war zone they must have accepted them.

I feel a heck uv alot worse for the kids being killed than any adult going into a known situation.

reply to post by Ben81

Syris has to be taken out by the West. It's all about surrounding Iran

It's long overdue, as soon as it started verging on genocide we should of had troops on the ground maintain order while diplomacy resumes.

Russia and China are protecting their own interests and not the interests of the people of Syria.

Originally posted by victor7
Could this be a trap to lure Russia into south theater of Syria and then attack it from west, i.e. Germany and Poland. No wonder Russian Chief of General Staff has said that Russia will use nukes to ward off enemies as it does not plan to fight the whole of NATO.

The trump card is with China. It has $3.2T in reserves and even $100B can get some really mean weapons to throw west off balance regarding their calculations. Crucial factor is also time. ICBMs do not come out in a week or so, they can take several months to build.

Cannot be a more Cold War then this
i though it was finish and they signed many treaties to avoid total annihilation

The heat level of the cold war was more like my lighter
now the heat is at the Sun level

People are not realising how serious this whole situation is
because the 9/11 false flag happened to control the ME
to get rid of any terrorist (arabs) and guess who dont like arabs ?
or people that dont support them or dont gave $$ to them



The Zionist cult that was cofounded and/or created by Hitler itself
and later financed by the US that have arbored many SS scientist and "ideas"
probably someone liked the Hitler big plan to control the world before 2012
Israel was not made naturaly... the "prophecy of Israel return" was written by religious extremist

They already killed Jesus Christ and wait for his return in 2012 to kill him again or what ...

Even at a WW3 risk ..
wonder why so many bunkers were builded for them and in the US
they know they are about to do something VERY BAD
that will draw a big retaliation with nukes from the other side

In that religious war they are about to sacrifice everyone on the planet
and have it on their own when 21 december comes

I have connected many dots and weird coincidences that make paterns after a while

This stupid dooms day clock should be placed at 11:59:57 ..
but the fearmongering propaganda clock wasnt placed at minus 5 for nothing ..
(Not to soon Not to far)

Now i just hope a miracle because it is about to happen more sooner then you thing
because of a selfish religious group that dont care about any other race except their

Can somebody call Yoda ..
needs some Jedi here to balance the forces on earth before its to late
things have never been so dark and all people do now is tweeting about their hairlook in the mirror

Hope for the best (no war)
Prepare for the worst (ww3)

Originally posted by SloAnPainful

Originally posted by THE_PROFESSIONAL
Russia and China need to start moving heavy military hardware into syria to block the NATO terrorists.

...and then do what when NATO comes? Blast them to hell and hightwater? ......I doubt it.
-SAP-

people are forgetting the Logistics of such a move by Russians and Chinese. Just think of the nightmare (cost) for both to be able to prepare and place the hardware (not people) in a country that has its own opposition/fractions to deal with. Forget about defending NATO. My question is Russia and China prepared to spend the amount just for the positioning?

Dont ask why many soldiers in the US army pose with the substil SS
having the nazi cross would be way to obvious .. they are not that dumb

US Marines posed with Nazi symbol in Afghanistan

Exclusive: Marines Nazi-Flag Whistleblower Comes Forward

Shortly afterwards Major-General Hugh Knerr, deputy commander of the US Air Force in Europe, wrote: “Occupation of German scientific and industrial establishments has revealed the fact that we have been alarmingly backward in many fields of research.

“If we do not take the opportunity to seize the apparatus and the brains that developed it and put the combination back to work promptly, we will remain several years behind while we attempt to cover a field already exploited.”

Thus began Project Paperclip, the US operation which saw von Braun and more than 700 others spirited out of Germany from under the noses of the US’s allies. Its aim was simple: “To exploit German scientists for American research and to deny these intellectual resources to the Soviet Union.”

Arthur Rudolph: “100% Nazi”

Events moved rapidly. President Truman authorised Paperclip in August 1945 and, on 18 November, the first Germans reached America.

Link

reply to post by hp1229


Russia should not get involved with men at this time. Intelligence support, weapons and diplomatic help would be more efficient. There are more than 100K Russians in Syria so they have to be concerned regarding their citizens.

China should provide the financial help in this matter regarding crucial tools that would help Assad keep the rebels in control. Ex: Few drones with cameras can help in surveillance, bullet proof body armor will keep the morale high among the government troops etc.

Russia and China should openly declare a 'mutual defense' treaty go give west a taste of what it feels like to be 'ganged up upon'. Their designs of regime changes will stop in track right away and bring them to right senses.

Wonder why US and Even Israel with their Bunkers are scare to even touch the ground in Syria

China have said it would risk a WW3 to defend Iran and Syria

Who wouldnt be scared after watching THIS ARMY


From the thread : Look if you doubt China's might

I would be curious to see if the US is disciplined to march like that
No army cant go against them and certainly not the US
all the soldiers would agree to nukes them all up
but not before they launch their own nukes

This army has been prepared and builded for a single purpose
They literaly buying the US .. it will be then legal soon for China to take back is propriety and new land
i guess the law of 1 children per parent will be voided .. been a while that China want to expend
but they have been builded up meticulusly for a long long time
their foes is the US Regime.. they will never launch nukes at the US and make a waste land out of it
now its even more easy to invade with the reason they own the US



They even make fun of it in a TV AD that was passed on CNN during a break
China "We Own the USA" pub on CNN ... anyone saw it ?

Beijing, China 2030 AD

====speech starting====

Why do great nations fail ?

The ancient Greeks...
The Roman Empire...
The British Empire...
and the United States of American

They all make the same mistakes
turning their back of the principles
that made them great

America tried to spend and tac itself
out of a great recession

Enormous so-called "stimulus" spending
massive changes to health care
government takeovers of private industries
and crushing debt

of course, we owned most of their debt...

lol..

so now they work for us...

LOL

====end of speech====

Originally posted by victor7
reply to post by hp1229

 

Russia should not get involved with men at this time. Intelligence support, weapons and diplomatic help would be more efficient. There are more than 100K Russians in Syria so they have to be concerned regarding their citizens.

And possibly the money that Syria owes to Russia Ofcourse it is part of their naval base too in addition to their citizens. So you want the russians to arm the rebels or Syria?

China should provide the financial help in this matter regarding crucial tools that would help Assad keep the rebels in control. Ex: Few drones with cameras can help in surveillance, bullet proof body armor will keep the morale high among the government troops etc.

Sure..why not. They have the money and they want the oil from the region without hinderance Let them cough up the money.

Russia and China should openly declare a 'mutual defense' treaty go give west a taste of what it feels like to be 'ganged up upon'. Their designs of regime changes will stop in track right away and bring them to right senses.

Easy to think but it will never happen in reality as they have their own concern with Chinese citizens in Russia crossing the border and the squabble along the russian chinese borders.

reply to post by hp1229


why should russia arm the rebels?

China can play a crucial role in middle east now.

Regarading Russia China Treaty, important things first, regarding border issues, those can be dealt with once the predators are tamed.

reply to post by Ben81


The difference is, you elect your leader. His power base is governed by its citizens.
Another big difference is that America has a 300million strong militia at hand if mercenaries started causing trouble.
I don't think anarchists or other agencies would consider starting a war within America with all the gun crazed nuts (citizens) ready to fight back. All Obama would need to do is rally everyone under the flag.

I'd be willing to test China's might. We have experience, China has little to none. We (British) once governed most of the free world. China doesn't even control its whole country. (Republic of China & People's Republic of China).
Putting a gun into a guy's hands doesn't make him a soldier.

HAHAHA @ the_professional and other ones highly impressed by Russia and China.

You think moving military hardware AND troops is easy ?
Any country EXCEPT USA don't have the LOGISTICS and CAPABILITY to move ENOUGH troops and military hardware to withstand a comparable enemy.

Russia have the transport capability...but crap hardware (their best is SAFE and is for DEFENSE only).China DON'T even have enough ships, not to mention that they NEED to cross Suez or come around the Africa to enter Mediteranean waters.

The best Russia + China can muster is 2 to 3 thousand troops armed with RPG's and Ak 47's.No tanks, no planes, no nothing.

NATO on the other hand...can deploy tens of thousans of troops, hundreds of tanks and fighter planes.

YES, Russia and China CAN, IF wants to starts WWW3, move enough troops and military hardware to both Syria and Iran.There is OFC a big BIG issue : WILL Syria and Iran ACCEPT their troops? Russia is KNOWN to send troops in "allied" countries and "forget" them there...

No, Russia and China can't do shi.t, they know that they can't do shi.t, and they know that if they want to start a SHI.T...they will lose badly.

Russia and China are BOTH powerful...WHEN IN DEFENSE OF THEIR OWN COUNTRY.
But both SUX at projecting MILITARY POWER.

Originally posted by Xertious
reply to post by Ben81

 

The difference is, you elect your leader. His power base is governed by its citizens.
Another big difference is that America has a 300million strong militia at hand if mercenaries started causing trouble.

I agree .. US has been preparing for the Martial law protocol with saliva
that will melt our constitution rights to the bone
Making it legal to shoot anyone who dare even critic them

I don't think anarchists or other agencies would consider starting a war within America with all the gun crazed nuts (citizens) ready to fight back. All Obama would need to do is rally everyone under the flag.

You got to be dreaming .. most of the 99% will choose to live
but protect their familly at all cost before the government

I'd be willing to test China's might. We have experience, China has little to none. We (British) once governed most of the free world. China doesn't even control its whole country. (Republic of China & People's Republic of China).
Putting a gun into a guy's hands doesn't make him a soldier.

China is buying the US that will make any invasion in world wide opinion LEGAL
no one would dare protect the US on this .. when China and Russia move ..
its OVER for the US

US has been weakened with all his deployement
the US money reserve has been drained by tese wars... the army force is half drained
China and Russia has observed and gathered thousand of inteligences file
and strategies the US has been using since WW2

The acted in Georgia because it was in their national security interest to do so
or they would loose some big ground to the enemy there
No one dare to even step in to confront and help the Sakasvily regime

And this was Russia not China that has a billions men army
ready to put a millions armed soldiers in each city
in case someone resist the big invasion of the US

They will do so when the attention/air strike start on Iran not before
while adding in secret troops in Syria to contront Nato

reply to post by Ben81


I'm not sure what your point is with the first video? It's just clips edited together so doesn't give any real perspective on amounts of soldiers and at the end you've got soldiers with the soles falling off their boots and soldiers with pins in their necks to keep their uniform straight Wtf? I don't remember any wars being won at any time in history by smartly marching soldiers with dodgy boots and pins in their necks. Maybe theirs a first time for everything...

reply to post by Recollector


Sounds like your clueless on the military strength of Russia and China you know the old saying never underestimate your enemy?

The best Russia + China can muster is 2 to 3 thousand troops armed with RPG's and Ak 47's.No tanks, no planes, no nothing.

China has a population nearly billions of people so China just wont send thousand of troops

Global Fire Power

No tanks, no planes, no nothing.

Really? you do know China owns an Air Force right? oh and a lot of tanks that statement of yours is far then fiction but i guess you said that because your a NATO supporter.

NATO on the other hand...can deploy tens of thousans of troops, hundreds of tanks and fighter planes.

YES, Russia and China CAN, IF wants to starts WWW3, move enough troops and military hardware to both Syria and Iran.There is OFC a big BIG issue : WILL Syria and Iran ACCEPT their troops? Russia is KNOWN to send troops in "allied" countries and "forget" them there...

You do realize that Russia and China have naval bases in Syria right?

Russia is KNOWN to send troops in "allied" countries and "forget" them there

Sadly that is just pure disinformation and untrue.

Russia and China are BOTH powerful...WHEN IN DEFENSE OF THEIR OWN COUNTRY. But both SUX at projecting MILITARY POWER.

Sadly all your points are incorrect if you go to the link that i posted in this you will understand why Oh and please dont write in caps.

Originally posted by Recollector
HAHAHA @ the_professional and other ones highly impressed by Russia and China.

You think moving military hardware AND troops is easy ?
Any country EXCEPT USA don't have the LOGISTICS and CAPABILITY to move ENOUGH troops and military hardware to withstand a comparable enemy.

Russia have the transport capability...but crap hardware (their best is SAFE and is for DEFENSE only).China DON'T even have enough ships, not to mention that they NEED to cross Suez or come around the Africa to enter Mediteranean waters.

The best Russia + China can muster is 2 to 3 thousand troops armed with RPG's and Ak 47's.No tanks, no planes, no nothing.

NATO on the other hand...can deploy tens of thousans of troops, hundreds of tanks and fighter planes.

YES, Russia and China CAN, IF wants to starts WWW3, move enough troops and military hardware to both Syria and Iran.There is OFC a big BIG issue : WILL Syria and Iran ACCEPT their troops? Russia is KNOWN to send troops in "allied" countries and "forget" them there...

No, Russia and China can't do shi.t, they know that they can't do shi.t, and they know that if they want to start a SHI.T...they will lose badly.

Russia and China are BOTH powerful...WHEN IN DEFENSE OF THEIR OWN COUNTRY.
But both SUX at projecting MILITARY POWER.

You have a lot of confidence in the US army
they have maybe a dozen of aircraft carriers and thousand of big nukes ready to launch
The biggest force that the US army have is their military hardware and missiles

It can also be the biggest US weakpoint .. LE TALON DACHILE

You forgot about the Ying and Yang
Wonder why the proverb is in chinese
One ICMB missile that destroy all defense and communication electric motherboard cards
Like i say above but didnt stated this option by China

China doesnt want to destroy the USA
once the icmb and all US electronics have been neutralised
They have their 1 billions army to do clean up

It will be to late for the ships that are in foreign waters to know what it them in time to retaliate

These are all plausible scenario and you know it ..
dont underestimate the opponent

i cannot help but think this was done on purpose.,

Here is where I am getting this at

nato/the west discuss intervention into syria, with turkey and italy too.
Burn Koran to start crazy riots and increase violance
The west stays in the M.E for longer due to violance that they provoked,.

In the end, israel is protected

also placing a Western (u.s?) leader into the country of syria will give israel an Allie as well..

Originally posted by markygee
reply to post by Ben81

 

I'm not sure what your point is with the first video? It's just clips edited together so doesn't give any real perspective on amounts of soldiers and at the end you've got soldiers with the soles falling off their boots and soldiers with pins in their necks to keep their uniform straight Wtf? I don't remember any wars being won at any time in history by smartly marching soldiers with dodgy boots and pins in their necks. Maybe theirs a first time for everything...

Its one video of many .. just an exemple .. not the best not the worst

They probably didnt show to the world their secrets
and their billions army men in total