Shocking Annoucment about Chemtrails on MSM

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posted on Feb, 23 2012 @ 12:39 PM
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reply to post by Human_Alien
 


Sigh......

This is a lie, and YOU know it:


Of course contrails don't last for hours.


A contrail is nothing but a cirrus cloud. Have you ever seen a cirrus cloud "last for hours"? Get it, yet?


Now, is this another intentional deception?:


Airplanes can only fly at what?.....40,000 ft?


This is so wrong, if you actually believe it, it is laughable. But, you and I both know that YOU know better....right?



So it would stand to reason that every plane, that's leaving a contrail, at the same altitude would be behaving in a similar manner.


Resorting to lies and deception is a mark of desperation.......and tying to leave a false claim like "ALL" airplanes "must" fly at the "same" altitude is a weak attempt at that desperate ploy.....

:shk:

How about some evidence, for a change?? Of you conviction and blanket "belief" in so-called "chemtrails"? Photos of the equipment that "sprays" them.
Photos of the facilities where these "spray" airplanes are loaded up with the "chemicals".
Samples of the actual "chemtrails", taken in the air, in situ.

THEN you can come back and have a case for "chemtrails".

But, you will never have this, since there is no evidence for something that does not exist.

(Would you like to borrow my trained magical flying unicorn?)
edit on Thu 23 February 2012 by ProudBird because: (no reason given)




posted on Feb, 23 2012 @ 12:41 PM
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hot spot shield....or hide my IP or other such apps should do the trick. HSS is free. Others are not expensive or are readily available through less legal avenues. You should just use the free stuff, or pay.

That really shouldn't stop you from watching though.

search for a solution, you will find one.
edit on 23-2-2012 by casenately because: (no reason given)



posted on Feb, 23 2012 @ 01:08 PM
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People never thought our CIA and others would conduct inhumane experiments on We The People either, this makes it soooo much easier for them, don't you think?

People never "see" what they certainly don't expect, just like how the CIA and others purposely infected people with syphilis over and over again, over many years even decades, and observed them dying just like you might expect at some NAZI death camps, but which has actually been done right here in the USA and done to them by their own countrymen no less...

NEWS FLASH: These people are still there, they have never been punished, or prosecuted, and they also gave people all kinds of drugs with the mind control stuff, the list is so long of what our country's lurid laundry list of vile things done to your brothers and mine, as to boggle the minds of even the most perverted people imaginable!!!

And thankfully to them, they can continue because you and others just don't "See" it happening as you stated...

The hard part is knowing which of the thousands of aircraft in the sky at any given moment are doing something they shouldn't, which would make it easier for them if in fact it is happening... Almost the entire sky offers them some plausable deniability...

Something else odd: There have been many many complaints to senate and congress about this, but NEVER any serious investigation done, and some stories abound that those that tried were told to back off and don't go near it....



posted on Feb, 23 2012 @ 01:19 PM
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Originally posted by RainbowsnUnicorns

Originally posted by Human_Alien

It was sarcasm. Sorry you're not familiar with my style. I should've made it more obvious. But of course I don't believe that.


Human_Alien-----------> I was once asked why I don't participate in anti-war demonstrations. I said that I will never do that, but as soon as you have a pro-peace rally, I'll be there.

Therein lies your answer.

OOOOOMmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.....................


woooooooow, you so did not say that...that is def a quote you stole. good call trying to sound wise



posted on Feb, 23 2012 @ 01:23 PM
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lmao what?
Can someone point out to me where in this video they talk about Chemtrails?



posted on Feb, 23 2012 @ 01:30 PM
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Originally posted by JAsay1LOVE

Originally posted by RainbowsnUnicorns

Originally posted by Human_Alien

It was sarcasm. Sorry you're not familiar with my style. I should've made it more obvious. But of course I don't believe that.


Human_Alien-----------> I was once asked why I don't participate in anti-war demonstrations. I said that I will never do that, but as soon as you have a pro-peace rally, I'll be there.

Therein lies your answer.

OOOOOMmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.....................


woooooooow, you so did not say that...that is def a quote you stole. good call trying to sound wise


before any trolls and the one i called out specifically come back with a "duh you didnt link to a source...ahh, you must be a fraud...you cant prove that...i did to say that ( i really wish he would say that he did say that lol)"

www.woopidoo.com...

theres a link to many peace quotes, including the one stolen above. Rainbowsnunicorns- come on, stealing from mother teresa...low lol

i know you want to keep you your mystic persona, but your contribution (to atleast this thread) is completely irrelevant and a waste of time. i agree with your beliefs...but you make people like us look stupid to others by stealing quotes and posting random rambling that are off topic to the thread

do what you do, and again, i agree with the message you are pushing... but learn how and when to correctly push, before you kill the message you are trying to spread.

and dont steal from mother teresa lol



posted on Feb, 23 2012 @ 01:34 PM
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Originally posted by ProudBird
reply to post by Human_Alien
 


You paranoia is back in full force?


They're in comfortable cruising altitude of about 30-40,000 feet. And.....the trails are not consistent. Some planes do this. Others don't. I guess some planes simply ignore and defy atmospheric conditions, huh?

There was one Saturday that actually made a loop over the Atlantic (Florida Straights). I was in Key West when we saw this.


You have been educated repeatedly about the realities of modern aviation, and airline operations. And the science of contrail formation, and the variance that occurs due to altitude and location....even a few hundred feet of altitude change makes a difference as to whether"yes" contrails or "no" contrails.


And, by a "loop" over the Atlantic, I presume you mean a 360° turn? (A "Loop" is a vertical, aerobatic maneuver in aviation.. Look it up).

You have also been informed of the reasons this occurs on occasion.....it is an Air Traffic Control method to delay a flight, for proper sequencing and safe separation in the air, when things get too busy, and he Controller needs to "re-arrange" the way the flights are progressing.

There are defined "Holding Patter" procedures, and there can also simply be a clearance issued by the Controller to "Make one 360-degree turn" given to a flight. It isn't always a full 360, sometimes the Controller uses "Delay Vectors"....just gives various headings, changes in course, to cause a delay and widen gaps, etc.

Happens every day, in busy airspace.





You know what I did yesterday? When I saw two planes, one to the east (Over the Atlantic) and one to the west I looked it up on this Flight radar and neither showed up.

Now what? What say you to this?

I am not here to spread a rumors. I am here to show my awaken friends that this is not our imaginations and it's slowly being acknowledged.

And for the LIFE of me, I don't understand you; naysayers. To you, this is a non-issue, right? So why are you making it your mission to debunk this?

Listen, if I believe Elvis is dead (which I do) I will not pay homage to a thread that purportedly saw him eating a bacon and peanut butter sandwich in Idaho last month. Even if they DID have photos.

So why are you and your posse here? This is all nonsense to you, right? So do you really think we care what YOU think?
We don't.
Just as much as the 'Elvis spotters" in Idaho care what I think.

Now please go find a thread that's more suiting to your belief system. Thank you.



posted on Feb, 23 2012 @ 01:34 PM
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as usual you resort to ad hominems
and do not examine links

so i would say you either cannot refute/debunk the vid
or didn't watch it, which means you are the one who does not know what they are talking about

next you'll be asking me to define chemtrails...


i have no time left for timewasters and runarounds from the usual suspects
so unless you actually have anything substantial to post in my direction, expect no further replies to your posts

you actually expect us to waste time believing you can show/you've just proven the status and location of all 1011's ?

not only off topic but as ridiculous as similar arguments being used to debunk the existence of air america's drug smuggling.

the fact that you know nothing about Sylphs [also known as critters, gremlins, plasma-critters, etc]
makes me question if you are really a pilot or how many hours you've really got.

but again that's OT

as for weed: do you know what you are talking about?
maybe you can show us where he is using Flight Explorer?



posted on Feb, 23 2012 @ 01:36 PM
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Originally posted by swoopaloop
lmao what?
Can someone point out to me where in this video they talk about Chemtrails?



What they're talking about are non-contrails and so far, Funk and Wagnalls has not come up with the proper word to depict this particular activity. Personally, I find aerosol spraying a happy medium.



posted on Feb, 23 2012 @ 01:55 PM
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You know what I did yesterday? When I saw two planes, one to the east (Over the Atlantic) and one to the west I looked it up on this Flight radar and neither showed up.

Now what? What say you to this?


Here's what Flightradar24 says:

Flightradar24 shows live airplane traffic from different parts around the world. The technique to receive flight information from aircraft is called ADS-B. That means the Flightradar24 can only show information about aircraft equipped with an ADS-B transponder. Today about 60% (about 30% in USA and about 70% in Europe) of the passenger aircraft and only a small amount of military and private aircraft have an ADS-B transponder.

I hope that helps to wake you up.


I am not here to spread a rumors.

I disagree! Your opening post shows that you ARE.

See ya,
Milt
edit on 23-2-2012 by BenReclused because: Typo



posted on Feb, 23 2012 @ 02:05 PM
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Originally posted by theclutch
reply to post by Human_Alien
 


He started off with Cancer in the lungs they "think" and it quickly spread to liver/pancreas/lymph nodes and them brain. The doctors and cancer research didn't do a thing to slow or stop it. (but thats another conspiracy in itself) lets just say I'll never give money to any cancer research organization again.

Also, my dad was fueling planes in Canada, and we do not get the types of trails that you guys do in the states. Not that I've seen anyways. Still the evidence of trails ARE in the sky every day, therefore no one can deny that they exist. The question is are they CHEM or CON. It's already been proven that the government has been messing with weather manipulation, by their own paperwork. so they are CHEM! Wait a minute, they Were Chem. So now the real question becomes, are they using them now? We will never know, unless someone brings absolute proof, and even then it will be questionable unless a great number of people step forward.

It seems to me that even if I was working and filling the planes with Chems to be sprayed, that I still wouldn't come forward. I wouldn't unless hundreds already where, due to the fact that I would just be discredited or called disgruntled or some such. They would have my number, so I would just stay silent and maybe put out some video with blurred face and sound. and even that would be discredited because I wouldn't be putting my "real" face out there. This pretty much works for every conspiracy out there.

So in closing, I think I'll go watch some videos of blurred out guys for a while........they are probably the best info out there! lol



Thank you for explaining and sharing. And is that right?....no aerosol spraying going on up in Canada? I didn't know that.

You know, I don't think it would take a LOT of pilots to do what's being done. When you're traversing at 40,000 feet above Earth, you get to cover a LOT of territory. So perhaps each state, let's say has 50 pilots. That's only 2500 personnel/pilots. Of course I am only speculating. I have no way of knowing how many planes there are up there or...if the pilots even know what they're doing this for. But I have a feeling it's not a humungous payroll operation.

It's very easy to keep 2500 people quiet. And who knows...maybe they're MK Ultra victims. Stranger things have happened. Looks at Sirhan Sirhan, To this day he still insists he doesn't remember killing Kennedy. And he's got nothing to lose. He might as well confess. In fact, he would've gotten some leniency if he did. But he didn't. He just couldn't. So it's almost categorically a fact that he was brainwashed at some degree and had his mind-altered and commissioned into shoot Kennedy and then, forgetting.
So who the hell knows.

We know our government is far from our friend. Look at Operation Northwoods. So the possibility that there's something sinister or secretive going on right under our noses isn't that far fetched at all. And the fact that so many forum users scream, shout, mock and make it their mission to poison the well is very telling.



posted on Feb, 23 2012 @ 02:08 PM
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Originally posted by BenReclused
reply to post by Human_Alien
 


You know what I did yesterday? When I saw two planes, one to the east (Over the Atlantic) and one to the west I looked it up on this Flight radar and neither showed up.

Now what? What say you to this?


Here's what Flightradar24 says:

Flightradar24 shows live airplane traffic from different parts around the world. The technique to receive flight information from aircraft is called ADS-B. That means the Flightradar24 can only show information about aircraft equipped with an ADS-B transponder. Today about 60% (about 30% in USA and about 70% in Europe) of the passenger aircraft and only a small amount of military and private aircraft have an ADS-B transponder.

I hope that helps to wake you up.


I am not here to spread a rumors.

I disagree! Your opening post show that you are.

See ya,
Milt
edit on 23-2-2012 by BenReclused because: Typo



When you sign off "see ya" is that a threat or promise? Because I keep hoping you're leaving.

Flight Radar is to track planes. LIVE FLIGHT TRACKER.

Seriously, what is wrong with you? Ah never mind. Your posts speak volumes.



posted on Feb, 23 2012 @ 02:14 PM
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Bravo. Well stated.

Oh...to substantiate what you're saying (about politicians getting complaints) here's an ACTUAL hearing in Long Island a few months ago. Now I'm sure the county wouldn't hold a town meeting regarding BigFoot so apparently, Chemtrail worries is a big enough issue to appease the county to hear their civilians complaints.





Suffolk County NY Chemtrail Hearing Part 1 of 9


Representative from CCRG.info kicked off the festivities. Not sure whether or not he was there with the geoengineering folks or there to pitch to them. He was able to speak a little on the issue though.



posted on Feb, 23 2012 @ 02:17 PM
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Originally posted by Human_Alien

Originally posted by MarshMallow_Snake
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Hello - You tube is blocked where I am at. Would you be able to post a summary of the video? Thanks!


Sure. There's a four-TRILLION dollar project making a solar umbrella (made up of 'mirrors') for planet Earth. This is an attempt to cool it off and create a man-made volcano shooting sulfur into the upper atmosphere.

Perfectly normal. Because after all, how would nature do its thing without our intervention? Nature NEEDS us to assist at all times.

So......nothing to worry about. Science has done a splendid job here on terra firma and in our waters.... so we're in excellent hands trusting them to FIX the situation.


From what i gt from your video and there is no source for that info...is there are scientists who think at some point we should look at such ideas, not that they are doing this now or think we need this now. If you have further sources i would love to see them.



posted on Feb, 23 2012 @ 02:18 PM
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Legislation to Ban Chemtrails Over Long Island Shows Huge Public Support






Citizens' Initiative to Ban Chemtrails - Suffolk County, Long Island



posted on Feb, 23 2012 @ 02:22 PM
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If you're looking for airplanes that don a Happy-Chemtrail logo on it, I can't help ya but.......here ya go!




RAF Mildenhall is a Royal Air Force (RAF) station located at Mildenhall in Suffolk, England. Despite its status as an RAF station, it primarily supports United States Air Force operations and is currently the home of the 100th Air Refueling Wing (100 ARW). As RAF Mildenhall's current "host wing" the 100 ARW supports some 16,000 personnel, three geographically separated units (GSUs) and 15 associated units.



posted on Feb, 23 2012 @ 02:29 PM
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You want, ask and expect the impossible. You know that, I know that and everyone here knows you're asking for proof that's not within our reach.

It's okay you don't believe this. I sincerely wish I was you, I truly mean that. But unfortunately I see what's going on and in my 52 years around this star, there is something very very very wrong going on up above.

Why are they geoengineering if that's all they're doing? Wouldn't that call for a world-wide announcement? We were uniformly taught about the ice-age in school, so why aren't we being told about this 'heating up' (again, if that's all this is)?

And once again (are you WeedWacker?) if this doesn't float your boat or if this is a non-issue, please find a more appropriate thread that you resonate better with. What is your purpose being here? We don't know you nor do we care how many 'quotes' you copy/paste just to mock. Your shill-coloring is really shinning brightly.



posted on Feb, 23 2012 @ 02:29 PM
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Originally posted by Human_Alien
reply to post by Char-Lee
 


If you're looking for airplanes that don a Happy-Chemtrail logo on it, I can't help ya but.......here ya go!




RAF Mildenhall is a Royal Air Force (RAF) station located at Mildenhall in Suffolk, England. Despite its status as an RAF station, it primarily supports United States Air Force operations and is currently the home of the 100th Air Refueling Wing (100 ARW). As RAF Mildenhall's current "host wing" the 100 ARW supports some 16,000 personnel, three geographically separated units (GSUs) and 15 associated units.



Not arguing the chem trail thing, I saw 2 jets draw perfect squares over Brookings or. One jet for each direction until they made perfect squares as far as the eye can see.
I was asking about the other stuff in the vid you put up.



posted on Feb, 23 2012 @ 02:33 PM
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"I don't think it would"
"Of course I am only speculating."
"I have no way of knowing how many planes there are up there or...if the pilots even know"
"But I have a feeling"
"And who knows...maybe they're MK Ultra victims."
"Stranger things have happened."
"So it's almost categorically a fact"
"So who the hell knows."
"So the possibility that there's something sinister or secretive going on right under our noses isn't that far fetched at all."
"And the fact that so many forum users scream, shout, mock and make it their mission to poison the well is very telling."

Well, I definitely agree with:

Of course I am only speculating.


You're just not being very realistic.

See ya,
Milt



posted on Feb, 23 2012 @ 02:37 PM
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Originally posted by truthinfact
WE #ED up our ecosystem with too much pesticide and CCD... the entire eco system has been destroyed over the last 200 years.
Thats why they are concerned with the heat. ITS HEATING UP.


Personally I don't want to live on Mos Eisley thank you very very much.



That might be true but what can't be ignored is, the other planets are heating up too. So this looks to be a Universal (solar system) issue.

I think our binary rouge star (Nemesis, Tyche, Nibiru ) and its entourage are entering our inner solar system and causing our Sun to react.
Now, do I have proof? Of course not. But there seems to be some huge event that happens every 3600 years or so that , according to others, reeks havoc. And coupled with that to the 2012 end-times prophecies ...it's a little too-in-our-face to totally ignore. We are rounding the corner of the Precession of the Equinox but what that really means to mortal humans, is unknown.





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