Shocking Annoucment about Chemtrails on MSM

I have lost what little respect I may have had for you prior to your post today.

There is NOTHING in your video that suggests that CHEMTRAILS are being made from jets. Just because they depict a jet ejecting CONTRAILS, and say "Man Made Vulcanos", means absolutely nothing.

The Weather Channel is not what I would call Main Stream Media either. We all know that the Weather Channel's founder himself stated that man-made "global warming is the biggest scam in history"

LINK

Your post is improperly titled, and I ask the forum moderator to consider either changing the title or shutting down the threat all together.

The word "Chemtrail" was not used in any way shape or form in the video.

Your post is misleading and dishonest, just like the entire theory of Man Made Global Warming!!!!

Originally posted by theclutch
I'd just like to add some food for thought. My dad worked in Edmonton, Alberta, Canada, fueling every airplane the airport had. EVERY one. He fueled the planed just outside Leduc, Alberta, the largest airport in Alberta. 10 Years he did this job and not once ever raised ANY concerns about something other than fuel being put into these planes. NOT ONCE!!!!!

Also my dad and I got along GREAT and shared knowledge about conspiracies every time we saw each other. He loved planes, and everything about the airport. He took pictures of every plane that he could. He even flew model planes. We would talk for hours about airplanes and conspiracies. Myself, I'm not a huge fan of planes. Still, not once did he ever think commercial planes where spraying us with deadly chemicals, other than the fuel he put in the planes.

He died of Cancer a few years back, and I think it was the airplane fuel that helped it along!!!!!!!!!!!!!

So just some inside information for you guys from a guy who fueled the planes himself. In a commercial airport........fuel goes in and nothing else that he knew of. If he saw someone out putting something into the planes, he would have mentioned it. Also I have a friend who loads planes with baggage and he has never mentioned anything funny going on either.

So my take on the whole CHEMTRAIL subject is that it's either REALLY well planned out and UBER secret that the guys loading and filling the planes don't even know whats going on??? doubtful. Or it's being done somewhere other than COMMERCIAL airports.

So It looks like the culprits would have to be from military airfield bases, or private airports.

Just an FYI from the sources that I have.

Sorry to hear that. Where was the cause of cancer in your Dad?

You know, I think we're putting our energy in an area that's irrelevant. I mean, we can spin our wheels and try to crack this case but knowing the origin or contents doesn't make this any more acceptable. It's happening and it's affecting this planet.

Even if it's just water and fuel (which it's not) then, they need to create a better muffler for these planes so I don't breathe in and eat their quasi-fume aftermath.

Originally posted by phantomjack
I have lost what little respect I may have had for you prior to your post today.

There is NOTHING in your video that suggests that CHEMTRAILS are being made from jets. Just because they depict a jet ejecting CONTRAILS, and say "Man Made Vulcanos", means absolutely nothing.

The Weather Channel is not what I would call Main Stream Media either. We all know that the Weather Channel's founder himself stated that man-made "global warming is the biggest scam in history"

LINK

Your post is improperly titled, and I ask the forum moderator to consider either changing the title or shutting down the threat all together.

The word "Chemtrail" was not used in any way shape or form in the video.

Your post is misleading and dishonest, just like the entire theory of Man Made Global Warming!!!!

I guess I'm off your friend's list and won't be invited to any of your parties, huh?

Misleading? Nah. Besides, I didn't make up the title. I just copy/paste it. Sorry to disappoint ya. Here's an invisible olive branch as my token of peace.

reply to post by Guinness133


www.abovetopsecret.com...

Here is an interesting read about chemtrails and geoengineering. Much more scientific and factual.

Originally posted by RainbowsnUnicorns
reply to post by Human_Alien

 

We should tackle reality in a slightly humorous way; otherwise, we miss its point. Note the one in my avatar. Look familiar?

It's funny because the first thing I thought of when I saw your Unicorn avatar gallivanting in space is...I wonder how it's breathing in all the chemtrail fumes and still look joyful!

reply to post by Human_Alien


You paranoia is back in full force?

They're in comfortable cruising altitude of about 30-40,000 feet. And.....the trails are not consistent. Some planes do this. Others don't. I guess some planes simply ignore and defy atmospheric conditions, huh?

There was one Saturday that actually made a loop over the Atlantic (Florida Straights). I was in Key West when we saw this.

You have been educated repeatedly about the realities of modern aviation, and airline operations. And the science of contrail formation, and the variance that occurs due to altitude and location....even a few hundred feet of altitude change makes a difference as to whether"yes" contrails or "no" contrails.


And, by a "loop" over the Atlantic, I presume you mean a 360° turn? (A "Loop" is a vertical, aerobatic maneuver in aviation.. Look it up).

You have also been informed of the reasons this occurs on occasion.....it is an Air Traffic Control method to delay a flight, for proper sequencing and safe separation in the air, when things get too busy, and he Controller needs to "re-arrange" the way the flights are progressing.

There are defined "Holding Patter" procedures, and there can also simply be a clearance issued by the Controller to "Make one 360-degree turn" given to a flight. It isn't always a full 360, sometimes the Controller uses "Delay Vectors"....just gives various headings, changes in course, to cause a delay and widen gaps, etc.

Happens every day, in busy airspace.

reply to post by Human_Alien


Interesting. I am wishy-washy on chemtrails/contrails right now. The skeptic in me says they are real, but the realist in me says it is just a normal side-effect of an airplane engine.

Anyway, I will go along with your view here. If they are building this, then, yes, I would say they know something that we do not. When you add all the conspiracies involving underground bunkers and atmosphere modification up, it just makes it look like a Hollywood disaster movie in real life in the making. I hope this is not the case.

Anyway, thanks for the summary.

reply to post by Human_Alien

Why the title: "Shocking Annoucment about Chemtrails on MSM"? That is clearly a lie! The term "chemtrail" was never even mentioned in that video! Perhaps, because of the aircraft shown, you believe the "15 trillion little mirrors" mentioned are being sprayed by way of that aircraft's exhaust.

Well, let me ask you this:
How the hell are those "15 trillion little mirrors" going to get into space by spraying them from an aircraft? The "reflector" shown in the illustration is most definitely outside of the Earth's atmosphere. Is the concept of gravity new to you?

See ya,
Milt

Originally posted by Thermo Klein


I always thought the chemtrails threads were a joke and demanded proof before I would believe it.... that is until my wife and watched a white L10-11 at well below cruising altitude lay out "contrails". They spread, and spread, and eventually over 3+ hours turned our pure blue California sky into a yellowish haze that covered half the valley. Has happened 6 times now in my area.

The FACT that you want to "shake a fool" over should be that WATER does not behave that way. This is not a closed case just because you personally don't believe it and haven't seen enough solid facts yet.

What's so ironic is, I don't know if its the phenomenon itself or the denial among many, that's so amazing.

Of course contrails don't last for hours. But these do. And...it's not every plane too. Just certain planes.
Airplanes can only fly at what?.....40,000 ft? So it would stand to reason that every plane, that's leaving a contrail, at the same altitude would be behaving in a similar manner.

Just like when you start a car on a cold bitter morning. They ALL release an exhaust. They all react similarly to physics and the environment. Not so with these planes.

Originally posted by BenReclused
reply to post by Human_Alien

 

Why the title: "Shocking Annoucment about Chemtrails on MSM"? That is clearly a lie! The term "chemtrail" was never even mentioned in that video! Perhaps, because of the aircraft shown, you believe the "15 trillion little mirrors" mentioned are being sprayed by way of that aircraft's exhaust.

Well, let me ask you this:
How the hell are those "15 trillion little mirrors" going to get into space by spraying them from an aircraft? The "reflector" shown in the illustration is most definitely outside of the Earth's atmosphere. Is the concept of gravity new to you?

See ya,
Milt

I didn't make up the title.
Why are you asking me scientific questions about what's being said on a video ? I didn't invent this. Ask Boeing or NASA.

Buh-bye now.

Originally posted by phantomjack


Your post is improperly titled, and I ask the forum moderator to consider either changing the title or shutting down the threat all together.

The word "Chemtrail" was not used in any way shape or form in the video.

Your post is misleading and dishonest, just like the entire theory of Man Made Global Warming!!!!

You certainly have a lot of energy on something you don't believe in. Why does this bother you so much to the extent where you want them to close down my thread? On account of what?.......because you so steadfastly disagree with it? Who made you the hall monitor anyway?

Once again, this is a title that was on the video. I didn't misrepresent anything. Duke it out with the YT owner of that channel if it bothers you so much.

Your attitude is very troubling. Shill much do ya?

reply to post by Human_Alien


He started off with Cancer in the lungs they "think" and it quickly spread to liver/pancreas/lymph nodes and them brain. The doctors and cancer research didn't do a thing to slow or stop it. (but thats another conspiracy in itself) lets just say I'll never give money to any cancer research organization again.

Also, my dad was fueling planes in Canada, and we do not get the types of trails that you guys do in the states. Not that I've seen anyways. Still the evidence of trails ARE in the sky every day, therefore no one can deny that they exist. The question is are they CHEM or CON. It's already been proven that the government has been messing with weather manipulation, by their own paperwork. so they are CHEM! Wait a minute, they Were Chem. So now the real question becomes, are they using them now? We will never know, unless someone brings absolute proof, and even then it will be questionable unless a great number of people step forward.

It seems to me that even if I was working and filling the planes with Chems to be sprayed, that I still wouldn't come forward. I wouldn't unless hundreds already where, due to the fact that I would just be discredited or called disgruntled or some such. They would have my number, so I would just stay silent and maybe put out some video with blurred face and sound. and even that would be discredited because I wouldn't be putting my "real" face out there. This pretty much works for every conspiracy out there.

So in closing, I think I'll go watch some videos of blurred out guys for a while........they are probably the best info out there! lol

reply to post by Human_Alien

I spent 8 yrs. in Fort Myers, and I must admit that I did see chemicals being sprayed from aircraft, but it was always much, much, lower than 30,000 ft. At one time the State of Florida maintained a small fleet of DC-3s, affectionately know as the "Purple Marlins", for the purpose of mosquito control.

I don't feel that quite proves your "chemtrail" nonsense though.

See ya,
Milt

Originally posted by Iamschist
reply to post by Guinness133

 

www.abovetopsecret.com...

Here is an interesting read about chemtrails and geoengineering. Much more scientific and factual.

some of us don't have time to wade thru 32 pages of con-troller circle jerk

how about a brief summary and conclusions derived from that thread? hmmm

oh wait! ther aren't any ....

looks like either the chemtrails or the GINORMOUS expenditure of energy expended in denial
have got you all down if this is all you can do


poor weedwhacker
probably set out to do the ultimate chemtrail debunking investigation
discovered chemtrails are for real
and has been silenced.:shk:

It is clear from the video, as brief as it was, that the method of application was by airplane dispersal. The message seems to be that it is necessary and it will work.
This fits what I have observed personally, and what is detailed here.
The Holmestead

reply to post by Thermo Klein

.....that is until my wife and watched a white L10-11 at well below cruising altitude lay out "contrails".

You must mean an L-1011?

So, how did you determine this airplane was "well below cruising altitude"?

Oh, and how did you determine it was an L-1011? Here is a list of every Lockheed L-1011 ever built, and their current status:
www.airfleets.net...

Note the listings under the column heading of "Status".

"Stored" is obvious.

"Written Off" means it was damaged beyond repair, and an insurance claim made.

"Scrapped" is obvious.


Out of the "Active" status......let's see.

Sky Capitol Airlines, in Bangladesh

Is this your plane??


The next one is registered to "AMW Tchad"....and I searched, this L-1011 is sitting in the desert in Emirates.




I see 8 of them listed as "Active" with the British Royal Air Force

Surely, it wasn't one of those that you think you observed?


There are 2 listed in Honduras

One in Greece

One in Libya

One in Mali

And, one in the USA!! Woo-Hoo!!:

N388LS, owned by the Las Vegas Sands Corporation

You think a Las Vegas hotel/casino company is spraying "chemtrails"?? Oh, but it isn't "all white"....actually, from a great height, almost ALL airliners appear to be "all white"...unless they have a lot of color on the bottom of the fuselage.....as shown in this example.


Further research can be had at www.airliners.net... Just enter L-1011 into the search window....then, try to find a photographic example of an L-1011 (or, ANY large transport category jet) equipped with ANY evidence of ANY "spraying" apparatus.

Good luck!

reply to post by DerepentLEstranger



Hold on.....you are claiming that there are magical, previously unknown entities or beings called "Sylphs" who float in the sky to "clean up chemtrails"??

Really?

Well, I have news for you....it isn't "Sylphs"....it is really a herd of flying unicorns, masquerading in their best "Sylph" costumes, just to confuse everyone.......

reply to post by DerepentLEstranger


UNTRUE:

poor weedwhacker
probably set out to do the ultimate chemtrail debunking investigation
discovered chemtrails are for real
and has been silenced

As usual, you have no idea what you're talking about.

reply to post by Human_Alien

I didn't make up the title.

Well then:
You knowingly copied a lie, used it to title this thread, and are now spreading it. Why?

Why are you asking me scientific questions about what's being said on a video?

That's a very good question! I shouldn't have! "Chemtrailers" are normally very, very, weak when it comes to science.

Sorry... I should have known better.

See ya,
Milt

Ya know, the thing about chemtrail advocates is that they really make me hope chemtrails are real.

Just so annoying... :-\