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Originally posted by ThirdRock69
So, by your "basic logic" all operations and actions under taken by the USAF are publicly announced US policy?
Originally posted by ProudBird
reply to post by atomsapple
COME on!!! Be real:
I'm not on a side here, all I know is that if our air is intentionally being sprayed in order to change our climate, it's not public knowledge yet.
No, the "air" is not being "intentionally" sprayed!!!
I mean.....THINK!!! Be rational.
Originally posted by Human_Alien
reply to post by Glassbender777
It's not just me. There are many chemtrail blogs springing up in Florida. We all can't be going insane or being misguided all at the same time. It doesn't work that way. And try as they will...people who stalk my threads in an attempt to derail the topic are purely entertainment and circus clowns.
And just for the record, I do not nor will I assume these are chemicals. I only refer to them as aerosol spraying.
Originally posted by ThirdRock69
reply to post by Aloysius the Gaul
The ambition of the United States is to control the weather by the year 2025, both for civil and military purposes (offensive and defensive strategies).
This document is published and written by the USAF.
Your argument
The only reference there that might support such a conclusion is to the "Owning het weather" paper from the 1990's - which is well known as NOT being US policy at all - and hence the statement that "This research paper contains a proven track record to support that statement." is debunked.
ROTFLMFAO
csat.au.af.mil...
Disclaimer
2025 is a study designed to comply with a directive from the chief of staff of the Air Force to examine the
concepts, capabilities, and technologies the United States will require to remain the dominant air and space
force in the future. Presented on 17 June 1996, this report was produced in the Department of Defense school
environment of academic freedom and in the interest of advancing concepts related to national defense. The
views expressed in this report are those of the authors and do not reflect the official policy or position of the
United States Air Force, Department of Defense, or the United States government.
This report contains fictional representations of future situations/scenarios. Any similarities to real people or
events, other than those specifically cited, are unintentional and are for purposes of illustration only.
This publication has been reviewed by security and policy review authorities, is unclassified, and is cleared
for public release.
So, by your "basic logic" all operations and actions under taken by the USAF are publicly announced US policy?
Originally posted by Human_Alien
typing something like this, my life will be in some sort of danger. They'll probably put me down on their terrorist list and make my life miserable. Not that these chemtrails aren't doing that already..........
Originally posted by ThirdRock69
reply to post by Aloysius the Gaul
Again you demonstrate ignorance of basic logic.
No you demonstrate ignorance of advanced logic
I'm not wasting my time with you silly circular arguments.
Your points are just another opinion. Which are based on semantics and word play. You have not "debunked" anything. You have not proven anything to be false. You can keep saying it like a child over and over or you can admit that ...IT IS JUST YOUR OPINION......... an ignorant one at that.
Originally posted by BenReclused
reply to post by Alchemst7
I think a fine line needs to be drawn as to what is being interpreted as chem trails. From what I inderstand it as, the actuall exhaust of the jet engine has higher levels of sulfur dioxide which is intently increased to creat the little mirrors as the video is explaining to help reflect the sun light. The sulfur dioxide in the exhaust lingers in the atmosphere for up to 2 years, thats why the con/chem trail seems like it is blanketing the sky.
I see only one problem with that statement:
You present it as if it is actually happening, yet your source is only a possible proposal.
This is from YOUR source. You must have missed:
As for the sulfur in fuel option, current jet fuel sulfur levels are around 400ppm, mostly due to the removal of sulfur by use of hydroprocessing to meet other parts of the jet fuel specification or the fact that low sulfur feedstock is available (27-29). Jet aircraft have a specification limit of 3000ppm in their fuel in the U.S. and similar elsewhere, so the level could be increased by a factor of almost 8 without any modification to the specifications (30).
The refiners would have to reformulate the fuel, but ironically, since their recent problems have largely been how to remove sulfur, this would require modifying their refining process to add more, a job that might take 5 years or so to complete (31, 32) or reverse, locking in the strategy. Thus, if this strategy were to be adopted, it would have to be continued for some time, even if the results were unacceptable.
Effects of the higher sulfur content on corrosion of turbine blades and other engine parts would need to be understood. Also, since jets only fly in the lower stratosphere about 80% of the time (not sure if time is equivalent to fuel usage and 80% is my estimate), consideration would have to be given to environmental impacts during the takeoff and landing phases as well as to how much sulfur is actually burned while the aircraft are in the stratosphere.
The above is certainly NOT A CONFIRMATION!
The other theory out there is that there are other metalic particles being added to jet fuel for a dual purpose. For instance Stadis-450 is added to jet fuel as a static dissipator. This additive ingredients is a trade secret and is not disclosed but is assumed to contain either barium salts or alluminum or thorium oxides.
Not quite true. Here is the Safety Data Sheet for "Stadis-450". There are only two "trade secret" ingredients involved:
1) A polymer containing sulpher
2) A polymer containing nitrogen
As you may have noticed, "barium salts or alluminum or thorium oxides" are NOT among the ingredients.
There are many additives added to jet fuels which can explain the con/chem trails coming from the jets
Then what are they? As for me, I'm going with:
Water vapor produced by the combustion process!
See ya,
Milt
And there you have it people - a refusal to accept hat anything other than his own conclusion can be factual.
Originally posted by atomsapple
Originally posted by Human_Alien
reply to post by Glassbender777
It's not just me. There are many chemtrail blogs springing up in Florida. We all can't be going insane or being misguided all at the same time. It doesn't work that way. And try as they will...people who stalk my threads in an attempt to derail the topic are purely entertainment and circus clowns.
And just for the record, I do not nor will I assume these are chemicals. I only refer to them as aerosol spraying.
I'm seriously not trying to debunk your theory or your thread
You definitely called them chemtrails.
See your quote in my next post.
Those Florida bloggers would be the perfect people to help you bring this to the public eye.
When transmitting in the VLF or ELF frequency range the ionosphere is sliced about in the same way of a space shuttle entering or leaving the atmosphere, leaving an incision at the point of impact. Due to the nature of propagation of VLF and ELF-waves these signals cause streams of particles to rain down beyond the horizon far from the transmitter and in the outermost regions of the atmosphere with very little loss of signal, altering the motion of free electrons and causing electronic rain that influence weather patterns.
Originally posted by Human_Alien
It's not shocking to those of us who have witnessed this on a daily basis and fought tooth and nail with all the naysayers and debunkers on these threads.
They are MESSING with our weather without our permission. And usually when they experiment to the degree that they do, they usually regret it afterwards. Look at all the pharmaceuticals that get recalled after a while.
So if you're wondering where the bees went and why birds are chirping at night and why our vegetation looks sickly and why WE feel like crap well, here it is folks.
www.youtube.com...#!
Jim Phelps is the inventor of the HAARP project, the discover that the Earth's magnetic field is an MHD generator, the discover of the critical factors of fluoide's on health, the inventor for the titanium method to control fluoride G-proteins, the inventor of the PB method to block G-protein binding sites, the inventor for special formulation for J-8 jet fuels, the inventor of the Ba and Ti chemtrail methods, the inventor of the Star War's Excalibur / Tungusga weapon, and many other critical national security projects.
Originally posted by ThirdRock69
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The Case Orange Report is a 300 page document. You chose about six sentences to twist around and then called it debunked. Like I said before, I'm not here to waste time talking semantics with you.
THERE YOU HAVE IT
When transmitting in the VLF or ELF frequency range the ionosphere is sliced about in the same way of a space shuttle entering or leaving the atmosphere, leaving an incision at the point of impact. Due to the nature of propagation of VLF and ELF-waves these signals cause streams of particles to rain down beyond the horizon far from the transmitter and in the outermost regions of the atmosphere with very little loss of signal, altering the motion of free electrons and causing electronic rain that influence weather patterns.
Look...I am really, really sorry that you have to automatically believe everything hat supports the existence of the chemtrail hoax
- it must be hell to think that the very air you breathe is poisoning you in a deliberate attempt to achieve something evil.
Originally posted by ThirdRock69
reply to post by Aloysius the Gaul
Look...I am really, really sorry that you have to automatically believe everything hat supports the existence of the chemtrail hoax
No need to be sorry. You've already proven yourself to me to be a fool in wolves clothing.
b) It is unacceptable that the Awacs aircraft fleet under NATO operates under a Luxemburg civil registration without complying with civil aviation regulations. This is a flagrant violation of the law and this should be corrected in the near future.