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Shocking Annoucment about Chemtrails on MSM

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posted on Feb, 25 2012 @ 03:02 PM
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Originally posted by Dilligaf28
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I would hope that if the implementation of my idea comes to pass that you will be a full fledged participant in the process!

We are talking about a chance to vindicate yourself in front of not just ATS but the entire world! You can provide valuable insight into where to observe the airplanes thusly where to harvest the samples. Your undervaluing the contribution you can make to the panel.

BTW check out a Neti Pot to help with the sinus problems. Just be sure you use distilled water as there are a lot of amoebas in the FL water supply.



You are very kind. And I will consider the offer however, I'm not in the least worried about vindicating myself. To who? For what?

My main goal is to make everyone aware of what's going on so we can collectively demand answers. I also want everyone to know, even if this IS innocent, we....as enslaved as we are, have a god-given birth right to live on this planet without planes changing our daily weather!!!

It's bad enough my government pisses off other countries to the point where they want to annihilate me by using nuclear weapons. It almost seems: if the enemy doesn't get us, our government will.

And I will go out kicking and screaming about all the illegal actions that have taken place in the past decade with absolute and total impunity. Enough is enough.
That is my mission and promise. And aerosol spraying is on the top of my list.

Rant over




posted on Feb, 25 2012 @ 03:05 PM
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Oh, dear....


My main goal is to make everyone aware of what's going on so we can collectively demand answers. I also want everyone to know, even if this IS innocent, we....as enslaved as we are, have a god-given birth right to live on this planet without planes changing our daily weather!!!


PLEASE go learn some science.....PLEASE??



posted on Feb, 25 2012 @ 03:13 PM
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ProudBird,
I have been asking him for the answer to just one question...what is the unfalsifiable, empirical, and tested contents of the so called "chemtrails".
He has only answered one of my posts.
He is fear mongering with no basis in fact.
Leading with a totally FALSE OP headline and videos that have nothing to do with "chemtrails".

He is just trolling his own threads not to mention claiming he is Galileo incarnate without the expertise to back up what he states.

I give up with this guy.

73's,
Tom

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posted on Feb, 25 2012 @ 05:01 PM
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posted on Feb, 25 2012 @ 06:08 PM
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Remember boys and girls hundreds of error-filled claims presented together do not make for a greater truth. They simply make for a greater collection of error. So don't let the collection here mislead you.



posted on Feb, 25 2012 @ 06:22 PM
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Hi bud, glad to see we have a pilot on board, I'm assuming of course. As for you question, we all have to be LWARS certifed and I had to cut an ATIS for the first 3 years of ATC. Thankfully now I'm at a facility with ASOS...love it!! Anywho, I will readily admit that I am quite rusty with all the weather phraseology and terms (not my main duty), but I am familiar with most of them. Now the reason I "believe" in chem-trails (I guess it has morphed into a belief system by now) is because of the MANY videos and articles that reference geo-engineering and stuff like the OP posted. How you going to ignore that? Heaven forbid I put two and two together and come out with a answer for chemtrails. If the guberment already has admitted to spraying "something" into the skys, why try and disprove the chemtrail theory? You must admit there is evidence to the fact of something is going on.......

Now I didn't say the pilots were in on it just in case you take offense, but something does seem to be weird going on. Or do you just not believe any of it? (We got a kingair BE-20 stationed on the field that is contracted out to the EPA with full sprayers from wing tip to wing tip. They said it was to break up oil in the bay.....but he leaves at night most of the time.....strange indeed.) Want his N#?

Watch this doc. if you are serious and tell me how are you going to disprove all the scientists coming right out and saying they are spraying us with heavy metals? Facts are facts bud.


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posted on Feb, 25 2012 @ 06:57 PM
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I apologize in advance for truncating your post.....it's what we do around here to get to "the meat"....


Watch this doc....


Problem is, that "doc" up ^^^ above is a load of crap!!!

Please review the very excellent "DE-BUNK" of that crap film, HERE

Read through that linked thread, please.


As a Controller....come on! We can talk!! I know the 'lingo'.....because I learned to fly back in 1975...well, I actually soloed in 1973.....but that gives away my current age......(I was 16 when I soloed....minimum age)...but, before that age of 16, I had logged about 100 hours of dual time....with instructors....yeah....been there, done that....

AT this point, I have upwards of 20,000 hours.....to include a career at a major airline....so....what did you want to ask again??



posted on Feb, 25 2012 @ 06:58 PM
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Remember boys and girls hundreds of error-filled claims presented together do not make for a greater truth. They simply make for a greater collection of error.

Then why the hell did YOU post so damn many of them... and claim they were proof?

So don't let the collection here mislead you.

Don't worry, they didn't. It's just too damn bad that you were.

See ya,
Milt



posted on Feb, 25 2012 @ 07:04 PM
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Originally posted by Human_Alien


Remember boys and girls hundreds of error-filled claims presented together do not make for a greater truth. They simply make for a greater collection of error. So don't let the collection here mislead you.


Indeed - see my sig.

Given that there is not one single piece of verifiable evidence, anywhere, EVER, to support the existence of "chemtrails" I think it is highly ironic that you are stating that it doesn't matter how often rubbish is repeated - it remains rubbish!!



posted on Feb, 25 2012 @ 07:09 PM
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Nice to have someone aboard who speaks avia-language. I just can't go up against their redundant arguments. Especially the more specific ones like hypothetically speaking: When a Tacamo is cruising at 35,000 amsl, weighing in at 100 tons and encounters 10% relative humidity and meets an air pocket at 33,000 amsl.....it will leave behind a broken up contrail.


So thanks for taking time to join the thread and breaking this down some



posted on Feb, 25 2012 @ 07:18 PM
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PLEASE read your own thread!!!

If you want to have a tete-a-tete with another ATS member, the DO IT PRIVATELY, OK????



posted on Feb, 25 2012 @ 08:14 PM
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The following link and quote is from an anonymous airplane mechanic. They claim they have found spray systems inside the waste tanks of airplanes and that the "honey trucks" may be involved in refilling the tanks while they empty the waste.

Not proof but another person who is telling their story. Sounds to me like he's being truthful.

www.anomalies-unlimited.com...


The next day I was on the company computer to look up a wiring schematic. While I was there I decided to look up the extra equipment I had found. To my amazement the manuals did not show any of the extra equipment I had seen with my own eyes the day before. I even tied in to the manufacturer files and still found nothing. Now I was really determined to find out what that equipment did.

The next week we had three of our planes in our main hanger for periodic inspection. There are mechanics crawling all over a plane during these inspections. I had just finished my shift and I decided to have a look at the waste system on one of our planes. With all the mechanics around I figured that no one would notice an extra one on the plane. Sure enough, the plane I choose had the extra equipment!

I began to trace the system of pipes, pumps, and tanks. I found what appeared to be the control unit for the system. It was a standard looking avionics control box but it had no markings of any kind. I could trace the control wires from the box to the pumps and valves but there were no control circuits coming into the unit. The only wires coming into the unit was a power connection to the aircraft's main power bus.

The system had 1 large and 2 smaller tanks. It was hard to tell in the cramped compartment but it looked like the large tank could hold 50 gallons. The tanks were connected to a fill and drain valve that passed through the fuselage just behind the drain valve for the waste system. When I had a chance to look for this connection under the plane I found it cunningly hidden behind a panel under the panel used to access the waste drain.

I began to trace the piping from the pumps. These pipes lead to a network of small pipes that ended in the trailing edges of the wings and horizontal stabilizers. If you look closely at the wings of a large airplane you will see a set of wires, about the size of your finger, extending from the trailing edge of the wing surfaces. These are the static discharge wicks. They are used to dissipate the static electric charge that builds up on a plane in flight. I discovered that the pipes from this mystery system lead to every 1 out of 3 of these static discharge wicks. These wicks had been "hollowed out" to allow whatever flows through these pipes to be discharged through these fake wicks.



posted on Feb, 25 2012 @ 08:43 PM
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Thank you for sharing. And please don't think for a moment this is a tete-a-tete with another ATS member because I would surely do that privately


Again, thanks for your contribution and very interesting read.



posted on Feb, 25 2012 @ 08:44 PM
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Not proof but another person who is telling their story. Sounds to me like he's being truthful.

I gave you a star for your honesty. I feel that is a huge step in the right direction! Thank you! We need to be able to listen to, and learn from one another. Bickering and name calling goes nowhere.

That said:
Though I have read that story before, I did so again, and it still doesn't strike me as being very factual and completely honest. That doesn't mean it isn't. It just isn't very convincing to me.

Once again: Thanks for your honesty.

See ya,
Milt
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posted on Feb, 25 2012 @ 10:17 PM
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Originally posted by ThirdRock69
The following link and quote is from an anonymous airplane mechanic. They claim they have found spray systems inside the waste tanks of airplanes and that the "honey trucks" may be involved in refilling the tanks while they empty the waste.

Not proof but another person who is telling their story. Sounds to me like he's being truthful.


Not proof indeed.

And as an aviation mechanic myself it sounds like a load of rubbish.

There is no such "pecking order" that I have ever seen. Sure guys tend to specialise - and in the case of avionics it is essentially a different trade with different qualifications.

And lavatory work is almost always done by the apprentices, along with any other awkward or unpopular jobs - like applying sealant to the inside of wing fuel tanks..which I remember well!!

Also there is pretty much no such thing as an actual physical power bus on a large a/c as he suggests with his description of how the unmarked boxes are connected. The power supplies come down wires from regulating and control units - physically the buses are not single items - rather they are a system of distributed power sources that each have a single set of generator sources (they will have multiple sources).

then there's the comment about "The next day I was on the company computer to look up a wiring schematic." - but we already know he is not an avionic mechanic - so why was he doing this?

Adn you wouldn't look the wiring up on a "company computer" - you would use the Wiring Diagram Manual - as a mechanical (airframe and engine) mechanic I NEVER had o look up this manual - this was hte preserve of avionics licenced mechanics.

So all in all, to me it looks like what someone like a non-mechanic might write if he was trying ot convince someone he was a mechanic.

Unless he's going to come forward to verify all this and tell us the aircraft types, etc., then I am going to think this is a hoax - deliberately written false information.



posted on Feb, 25 2012 @ 11:14 PM
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I find it interesting that you "hit" on the very points I had concerns about. Not as an A&P Tech., such as yourself, but as a construction equipment mechanic with many years of experience in hydraulic and electrical systems, many parts of his story just didn't jive.

Thank you for the details. Your perspective makes a LOT more sense... but it ain't proof. (I couldn't resist that!
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See ya buddy,
Milt
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posted on Feb, 26 2012 @ 12:30 AM
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I read the thread you posted which did explain away the metal aspect of the doc., but all the news clips and scientists talking about weather modification via atmosphere spraying is still very worrisome to me. Something seems to be happening, but all the pieces, or the main piece of the puzzle is no known yet apparently. I'll keep my eye on this subject waiting for more info.

The only sad thing is though,,,,most good info comes out "after the fact" or event has already taken place, such as all the 9/11 docs, years after the attack, etc.



posted on Feb, 26 2012 @ 01:55 AM
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Originally posted by Human_Alien


Flight Radar is to track planes. LIVE FLIGHT TRACKER.

Seriously, what is wrong with you? Ah never mind. Your posts speak volumes.


Your utter ignorance of aviation and technology surrounding aviation is appalling. Can you not even comprehend that not all aircraft show up on Flight Radar and other such software. Did you even read the link that was posted?

www.flightradar24.com...

www.coaa.co.uk...

Are you even serious when you make the statement "Airplanes can only fly at what?.....40,000 ft?"

Go back and read carefully the Flightradar 24 link. Does it compute. Has it sunk in? When you next look up into the sky for your 'chemtrail sprayers' and try and find them on Flightradar then you will understand after thoroughly reading and comprehending what Flight Radar actually does. It couldn't be any more clear and simple to understand. Surely?



posted on Feb, 26 2012 @ 02:19 AM
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Originally posted by Human_Alien


Because yesterday, I used FlightRadar and two planes that were within my area were not on this radar chart. Which leads me to consider that these are not planes asking for clearance or permission or being asked to identify themselves.

Once again, pure speculation on my part. (I have to keep adding that caveat because someone thinks I throw out facts opposed to my laymans' opinions)


Of course it is pure speculation. You look at aviation from a gullible perspective. Have you ever thought to look for Air Traffic Control radio enthusiasts in you region on the web? You do realise that people monitor and track aircraft by listening to Air Traffic Control as a hobby. You only 'consider' from the perspective of someone who appears completely baffled by aviation. Do some research and seek out aviation radio enthusiasts in your region or other regions in the US. You obviously don't understand Air Traffic Control so isn't it time for you to stop 'considering' and actually converse with people tracking and monitoring via radio communications?



posted on Feb, 26 2012 @ 02:59 AM
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Originally posted by Ansuzrune
Also was in military and started A-4 skyhawks to F-4 phantoms no trails.


Sorry, but that is pure and utter hogwash. I served in the military and yes F-4 Phantoms do contrail. How on earth do you expect people to believe you are stating that a J79 or Spey in an F-4 doesn't produce contrails? It is just pure and utter ignorance of aviation. Explain what was I seeing during the 1980 and early 1990s in the RAF when the F-4s were contrailing at height over the UK?

Take a look at the following image. The larger turning circle contrail was produced by an F-4 Phantom.



Go over to forums such as PPRuNe and inform the military aircrew over there that the F-4s and A-4s never produced contrails? It is just yet another ludicrous example of complete and utter ignorance of aviation to suggest otherwise.

www.pprune.org...



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