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So even if this is just fuel and water, if I camped out at a gas station for a year, I'm sure my body would react to that too.
Originally posted by ProudBird
Since this thread is (tangentially) discussing the so-called "chemtrails".....I think this next bit is VERY interesting. It discusses the hypothetical of jettisoning jet fuel....kerosene.....which, BTW, is pumped out at a pretty fast rate. On the Boeing 767, if all pumps are working (normal electrical power to all pumps) and both "dump" valves open, the rate is about 2,500 pounds per minute (there are cute little "calculations" we can use in our heads, to estimate the time needed, depending on the amount of weight we have to eliminate).
Anyway, @2,500 ppm, that is about 373 gallons per minute.
I say that for those who believe in "chemtrails"....just so they can think about it!
The wake turbulence behind the aircraft makes most of the fuel released through the nozzles vaporise into a fine mist, which remains in the atmosphere until being broken down by the sun's energy into carbon dioxide and water. Only a minimal amount of the dumped kerosene actually reaches the ground. If a fuel dump is made at the minimum altitude of 1,500 m, given a ground temperature of 15°C and assuming that the air is still, then it is calculated that 8% of the total fuel dumped will reach the ground. Assuming the aircraft was flying at the minimum speed of 500 km/h, this results in the ground being affected by 0.02g per square meter, which is the equivalent of a spirit glassful of kerosene spread over an area of 1,000 m2.
The above assumes total stillness of the air, which is in fact highly unlikely. Even the slightest air movements, which automatically stir the air up, make fuel evaporate almost entirely before it can reach the ground. This explains why even the most sensitive monitoring equipment has not yet succeeded in discovering kerosene-related impurities in plant and soil samples taken after a fuel dump.
And people think that airplanes are "spraying" them!!
Here's the source...sorry, it's in German. Google will happily 'translate'.....
Originally posted by Afterthought
reply to post by Human_Alien
Do you think they'll put her and G. Edward Griffin in the same padded cell or is that against regulations?
/sarcasm
Originally posted by Human_Alien
When my sinus infections started, before I got diagnosed, I would self-medicate trying to relieve the discomfort. So I'd go into Walgreens and buy Sudafed. I couldn't help but notice, I had to identify myself by presenting my driver's license then, signing something I never bothered reading.
Yes, I realize the given reason for this is due to the rampart making of Meth in the backwoods in Kentucky by a bunch of woodchucks. I get it. However, I don't buy it.
They help illegal heroine addicts by giving them synthetic methadone so they don't have withdrawals (which I NEVER understood) so why would they care about Meth users? It makes no sense. Except to consider this is a way for them to track people who are coming down with sinus ailments.
What better way, under the guise of something else (meth makers) to get a daily demographic of where the aerosol spraying is working the best?
I might be wrong but I rather be wrong then blindsided later on.
Originally posted by Dilligaf28
reply to post by Human_Alien
I think you would be perfect to sit on the panel! You ardent stance regarding this debate combined with the passion you feel towards the topic in general makes your presence on the panel particularly important. Combine that with the research and observations you have made and I can't think of anyone on ATS I'd rather see sit on the panel than you!
If you want to think of yourself as a victim so be it but I strongly urge you to be the kind of victim that fights back!
Originally posted by Human_Alien
Originally posted by Dilligaf28
reply to post by Human_Alien
I think you would be perfect to sit on the panel! You ardent stance regarding this debate combined with the passion you feel towards the topic in general makes your presence on the panel particularly important. Combine that with the research and observations you have made and I can't think of anyone on ATS I'd rather see sit on the panel than you!
If you want to think of yourself as a victim so be it but I strongly urge you to be the kind of victim that fights back!
I think a 'thank you' is in order here (I think) but really, I don't have the inside knowledge in aviation, climate or chemicals to argue against those who do and deny this.
Someone who is at least semi-knowledgeable in the basic fundamentals of these topics would be better suited I think.
I am passionate in this matter no doubt but what can I add? My sinus infection reports? (just kidding)
I don't purport to know what they're doing or why. All I know is it's not what I consider, normal. And if some hot-shot aviation scholar comes out and tells me about some new-fangled jet propulsion engine that is being used then.....how can I possibly debate that? Ya know?
I don't want to pretend to know what I don't. For I have enough on my plate just knowing what I think I know. Ya know? But thanks though