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Shocking Annoucment about Chemtrails on MSM

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posted on Feb, 24 2012 @ 04:42 PM
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Just because these trails RESEMBLE its predecessor, the contrail, doesn't make this phenomenon not exist. And in this particular case, if it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck and waddles like a duck it merely means they copied the idea!!!



Yo do know that that logic works both ways.........If it looks like a contrail......etc etc




posted on Feb, 24 2012 @ 04:47 PM
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Well I am still waiting on why the OP hasn't answered the question on how he gets this...




Florida Drivers Shelling Out Nearly $6 A Gallon At Some Gas Stations TAMPA (CBS Tampa) — Talk about pain at the pump! Some Florida drivers are spending nearly $6 a gallon to fill up their gas tanks. According to GasBuddy.com, motorists are shelling out $5.89 for a gallon of regular gas at a Shell station in Lake Buena Vista, topping out at $5.99 a gallon for premium. It doesn’t get better at a Suncoast Energy station in Orlando, where drivers are paying $5.79 for a gallon of regular.


to match up with this....




You may not have wrote the quote you sure didn't have a problem posting this pic now did you?


Seems to me if you can't even corroborate a simple pic with the quote how can you be believed that your youtube video is even worth the trouble of watching?


You want to claim that this is happening yet you nor any other ATS member has been able to provide any scientific or even meteorological evidence of chemtrail existence. Whereas maybe you and a few of the other members should look back at this thread and learn some things about weather from someone who actually does that for a living.

www.abovetopsecret.com...

Again after 18 pages you still haven't answered this....




How come the photo you posted from the article shows gas under $4.00?


Care of ColAngus.

Just wondering??


Kind of shows you something there now doesn't it....



posted on Feb, 24 2012 @ 04:50 PM
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I suppose it depends on which part of Texas you're in. The front has not cleared the state yet.


Here's Ft. Worth.

www.wxnation.com...

Lubbock

www.kcbd.com...
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posted on Feb, 24 2012 @ 05:02 PM
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Don't worry about posting Austin, I've got plenty coming up in about an hour

Cheers



posted on Feb, 24 2012 @ 05:05 PM
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Originally posted by TheBassistant
Thought I'd add my experience from this morning:

I'm on the road as usual @ 10 AM, enjoying the cool, clear blue, sunny day, when out of nowhere, what happens?
Why, the spraying begins of course!! Soon enough, the sky was full of trails, X's, grids, etc..
(I took plenty of pics and video, will upload later tonight when I'm home) anyways, after seeing 5 planes flying in a
Triangle formation and spraying, I got pissed. I decided to at least attempt to get some answers and started making.phone calls. Here's what transpired.

First, I called 311, told them what I was wanting to report, and they transferred me to the regional Texas EPA office. It was an automated machine, and all it said was 'This line is for questions and concerns regarding the
Stratospheric Ozone Layer Protection Program, please leave your name and # and we'll get back with you'. I did, and I'll be waiting..

Second, I called the EPA's Environmental Justice division, once again told the operator why I was calling and what I was experiencing, (please note I never used the word chemtrail in these conversations), and then asked if she could give me any info about this stuff. The lady said 'I can email you some info on chemtrails vs contrails, but I really think it just has to do with water condensation and ice crystals etc...' I then said 'wait. I thought chemtrails were a conspiracy theory. You mean you're going to send me some literature from a government agency with information about them?' She then stuttered, and kept trying to backpedal through her words, and finally settled on 'I can send you information on contrails and persisting contrails.' I thanked her and hung up.

Third and possibly most interestingly, I called the Tx Dept. Of Environmental Quality and eventually reached a very helpful gentleman. When I told him what I was calling about,he responded with 'OK, let me shut my door.' He then proceeded to agree with what I was saying, that he noticed them as well, and that he didn't get many complaints from people, but he truly believes its bc not enough people pay attention and LOOK UP. He made sure I knew everything he was saying was his opinion and not his agencies. He then gave me my local office's #, and wished me the best of luck.

Finally, I called the Austin regional office, and spoke with the Air Manager aka Lead Air Investigator. And you know what? He reminded me EXACTLY of all the "debunkers" on this very site!! Wouldn't be surprised if he was one of them...he told me he knew these trails were there, and that he got many complaints about them but for EVERYTHING he would say, he would preface it with 'y'know, I've always thought' or 'I mean, I think' or 'as far as I know'....is that the kind of confidence and assertion a lead air investigator should have? He would follow it with 'its water vapor/ice crystals, contrails persist in certain temperature changes, I think it has to do with the cold front' and so on and so forth.

I'll post pics and videos later to silence the naysayers who skim through this entire thing and demand proof. Wait and you shall receive. Keep up the good fight Human_Alien, excellent thread S&F



Thank you for sharing your experience. You went above and beyond what the average person (including me) would do. Bravo. Kudos. And a huge THANKS!

Interesting what was said about people simply not looking up. This couldn't be truer. When I point out the obvious and intentional marking up of the skies to a stranger, their response is usually "Oh wow. I never noticed that before. Isn't that what they call....contrails?" But then they look on with awe. Then disgust. Followed by confusion. Like many of us do.

People just aren't paying attention. Their iPhone, iPads, iPods and every other i - Device is steering their attentions downwards.

But because I am outdoors almost always...I don't hesitate anymore to bring this to my fellow mans' attention. I've only gotten a couple of "oh yeah, they're at it again...." kind of replies but at least I'm bringing awareness to the average persons'.

Thank you and I look forward to your photos!



posted on Feb, 24 2012 @ 05:06 PM
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Well yes, Austin is still under the clouds from the front as can be seen in the satellite image.



posted on Feb, 24 2012 @ 05:08 PM
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Can we ever get something other than anecdotal pictures of clouds and shouting down through ridicule those who bring science and common sense into the conversation.

I clicked on this because of the incredible thread title to find out what the SHOCKING ANNOUNCEMENT was and after 18 pages of this train wreck I can honestly say it was just as EVERY other Chemtrail vs. Contrail thread.
Show some real proof Chemmies...you are making the claims.


facepalm...





posted on Feb, 24 2012 @ 05:12 PM
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Originally posted by Unity_99
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On the contrary, that movie was a real eye opener. There is proof, its been analyzed studied, data has been studied, just doesnt get a lot of airtime. The world is run by the dark side. All who serve the dark side will be very sorry in the end, for they backed the wrong horse and then they'll have to face all their victims in the end, who are being progressed this time around.



Of course its to the contrary. It was an excellent snippet of information.

When there's no defense or argument, they simply beat their chest like a wild Ape and make lots of noise. Seems Phage and company feel compelled to respond to every post in a negative fashion only to get seen/read and heard.

I'm 99.9% certain their redundant and mind-numbing arguments hasn't persuaded one single chemtrail believer to join their side.



posted on Feb, 24 2012 @ 05:17 PM
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When there's no defense or argument, they simply beat their chest like a wild Ape and make lots of noise.


Did you read the thread I linked? The one about the "analysis" in the stupid movie?



posted on Feb, 24 2012 @ 05:32 PM
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Originally posted by libertytoall
There's no winning on either side of this argument. You will continue to call chemtrail believers crazy and chemtrail believers will continue to view you as being in denial. The legislation is already there. The big pharmaceutical companies have publicly called for chemtrails. Big agrobusiness also wants the chemtrails. The elite are licking their chops at the population reduction this brings. Every hand that holds real power wants chemtrails and you think the public will openly accept such a thing? That's why it's a top secret aerosol spraying program. If it didn't exist the legislation never would have been passed. If the public knew it would be stopped..
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Like I said, this is the biggest divide (except for 9-11) in my lifetime. And I have to wonder if it's been orchestrated to do just that.

We also know, without a shadow of a doubt, the government hires shills to infiltrate forums such as this. So we have a choice when trying to figure out who these people are behind their keyboards.

They're either: paid dis-informants (to muddy the waters) or pathetically ill-informed people who will salute their superiors and never think they're capable of such a thing...... until the day they die



posted on Feb, 24 2012 @ 05:39 PM
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We also know, without a shadow of a doubt, the government hires shills to infiltrate forums such as this. So we have a choice when trying to figure out who these people are behind their keyboards.

They're either: paid dis-informants (to muddy the waters) or pathetically ill-informed people who will salute their superiors and never think they're capable of such a thing...... until the day they die


Well I guess this wasn't far from being a regular response towards those who actually use science and research as a tool for proof and not a youtube video..


It only took 19 pages you guys are really slipping on the name calling...


I guess it was to be expected sooner or later...



posted on Feb, 24 2012 @ 05:43 PM
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Come on. We all know a plane does not need a pilot in cockpit to fly.
2nd.



posted on Feb, 24 2012 @ 05:49 PM
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This reminds me of an ecology class I took my freshman year of college. The professor mentioned how they introduced the rabbit into Australia and it ran amok eating all the native plants and destroying the local niches for native animals. Then, their bright idea was to introduce the coyote or fox or some other predator and instead of eating the rabbits, the canine predator they introduced started eating wallabes and other crazy Australian creatures.



posted on Feb, 24 2012 @ 06:04 PM
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Does that look like clear skies to you Phage?
You don't live in Texas.
The wind has been blowing all day, and the haze remains, and the planes continue to leave chemtrails.
Contrails could not persist under these conditions.
Yet, they do....and they spread out into a haze much like what we see in your photographs.
You guys disgust me, really.



posted on Feb, 24 2012 @ 06:08 PM
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Originally posted by SurrealisticPillow
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Does that look like clear skies to you Phage?
You don't live in Texas.
The wind has been blowing all day, and the haze remains, and the planes continue to leave chemtrails.
Contrails could not persist under these conditions.
Yet, they do....and they spread out into a haze much like what we see in your photographs.
You guys disgust me, really.




Ah, don't let 'em get to you. They are not the problem. The problem is the problem. They're only speed bumps trying to slow us down.

(are you a JA fan?)



posted on Feb, 24 2012 @ 06:10 PM
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Originally posted by Sphota
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This reminds me of an ecology class I took my freshman year of college. The professor mentioned how they introduced the rabbit into Australia and it ran amok eating all the native plants and destroying the local niches for native animals. Then, their bright idea was to introduce the coyote or fox or some other predator and instead of eating the rabbits, the canine predator they introduced started eating wallabes and other crazy Australian creatures.



I'm lost in your analogy. Can you elaborate a bit more? Thanks



posted on Feb, 24 2012 @ 06:15 PM
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Yes, it looks like clear skies. No clouds anyway. No contrails in the webcams I've seen of everything but east Texas (where the remnants of the front remain).

It could be hazy though.
Is it unusual for Texas to be windy? Doesn't wind kick up dust? Doesn't dust make things hazy?


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posted on Feb, 24 2012 @ 06:16 PM
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posted on Feb, 24 2012 @ 06:16 PM
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I'm lost in your analogy. Can you elaborate a bit more? Thanks


I think they are saying that the solution is worse than the problem.

It's the old story, a farmer wants to get rid of mice eating his wheat in the barn so he gets a cat. Then the cats become a problem so he gets a dog. After the dog gets rid of the cats he wants to get rid of the dogs so he gets a lion. Then to get rid of the lion he gets an elephant. Finally to get rid of the elephant he gets a mouse.




posted on Feb, 24 2012 @ 06:17 PM
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Originally posted by tsurfer2000h
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We also know, without a shadow of a doubt, the government hires shills to infiltrate forums such as this. So we have a choice when trying to figure out who these people are behind their keyboards.

They're either: paid dis-informants (to muddy the waters) or pathetically ill-informed people who will salute their superiors and never think they're capable of such a thing...... until the day they die


Well I guess this wasn't far from being a regular response towards those who actually use science and research as a tool for proof and not a youtube video..


It only took 19 pages you guys are really slipping on the name calling...


I guess it was to be expected sooner or later...



You actually think that we'll have a fleeting moment of consideration and contemplation based on an anonymous member, with no credentials to show? Really?

Science? I can copy and paste from Google too.

For any topic or subject in this world, there's an opposing position.

These debunkers mean nothing to us. They're background noise. Pests, if you will. Every exploration and explorer has to deal with unpleasant elements from time to time. You just have to build up a tolerance. That's all.



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