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Originally posted by Semicollegiate
reply to post by Dimitri Dzengalshlevi
China is just getting started as a superpower. They would have to be divinely benevolent and ethical not to take the world over before they are through.
Originally posted by JiggyPotamus
If the Chinese are just as well-trained as American troops,
and if they have the same technology
So we would attempt to rely on our technology, which doesn't work so well against a technologically advanced enemy.
Originally posted by Dimitri Dzengalshlevi
Originally posted by lordnightstalker
Oh another demoralize the Americans thread
Yeah, you guessed it. If it isn't pro-American, then it is anti-American
swing80s-
I remember playing C&C listening to this song back in the day... is it wierd that i've been dating gurls that were born around the or after the originical C&C came out?? LOL But I always wondered what that German guy was saying in that song... was it Hitler saying something?
It's from C&C Red Alert, not the original C&C. In my opinion, the original C&C storyline sucks the big one. I was always a fan of Red Alert and Generals though.edit on 24-2-2012 by Dimitri Dzengalshlevi because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by Dimitri Dzengalshlevi
Originally posted by Semicollegiate
reply to post by Dimitri Dzengalshlevi
China is just getting started as a superpower. They would have to be divinely benevolent and ethical not to take the world over before they are through.
China is "just getting started"? You do know that China has been around longer than any other modern civilization, right? They've been up and down on the global scene a lot more and a lot earlier than the western world.
And why would China strive for global domination? They aren't stupid; they know that it is a self-destructive endeaver for empires to establish themselves as the global hegemony. Rome fell from its own arrogance, and the US will too. Why would China wish to pursue such a bad, long-term strategy?
And are you even familiar with Rimland Theory? If a country wishes to control the world, then they need to control Eurasia's main regions of eastern Europe, the Middle East, and Eastasia. How would China wrestle Europe out of the hands of the Americans, Russians, and of course, the Europeans?
The entire notion that China has any interest in world domination is farcical. They know how to survive and they will do what they have to do to maintain their country indefinitely, not throw it away by going after unattainable goals.
And besides, you know what we're going to see in the future? A serious decline in American hegemony in the world, probably involving the US reverting back to isolationist policies. The EU will probably be reformed into a more stable entity. Russia will be much more geopolitically active and will probably regain its influence over ex-Soviet bloc regions that the US is current puppeteering. And China will more than likely represent the moderate and progressive side of the world and will probably be looked up to. We will probably see a new international order with Russian, China, the EU, and maybe some other countries like India and Brazil, at the helm.
So again, why would China seek world domination when they are doing just fine now?
Originally posted by TheGreatest
Again going back to the "Quality over quantity" argument, China has the capabilities of training Special forces that match western military skill, no doubt about it.
What's more frightening is they could have a single regiment of special forces that equals the size of the US army.
The Chinese may not of been in many conflicts but they are very good friends with the Russians who are no strangers to war and Chinese military history traces back thousands of years, when us Brits where under Roman occupation and the USA ceased to exist.
Originally posted by daaskapital
reply to post by IsraeliGuy
The USA has lost every war since WW2, and even still, they didn't to much in the 2 big wars.
They lost Korea, Vietnam, Iraq, and are about to lose Afghanistan. Not to mention some of the little conflicts.
The USA isn't what everyone makes it out to be.edit on 25-2-2012 by daaskapital because: spelling
Well, to be more precise, they havn't won a proper war since WW2
Originally posted by ManBehindTheMask
Originally posted by daaskapital
reply to post by IsraeliGuy
The USA has lost every war since WW2, and even still, they didn't to much in the 2 big wars.
They lost Korea, Vietnam, Iraq, and are about to lose Afghanistan. Not to mention some of the little conflicts.
The USA isn't what everyone makes it out to be.edit on 25-2-2012 by daaskapital because: spelling
LoL wow, really dont know anything about military history do you?
Originally posted by daaskapital
The USA has lost every war since WW2, and even still, they didn't to much in the 2 big wars.
They lost Korea, Vietnam, Iraq, and are about to lose Afghanistan. Not to mention some of the little conflicts.
The USA isn't what everyone makes it out to be.
The invasion was swift, leading to the collapse of the Iraqi government and the military of Iraq in about three weeks. The oil infrastructure of Iraq was rapidly seized and secured with limited damage in that time.
Originally posted by daaskapital
reply to post by IsraeliGuy
The USA has lost every war since WW2, and wven still, they didn;t to much in the 2 big wars.
They lost Kore, Vietnam, Iraq, and are about to lose Afghanistan. Not to mention some of the little conflicts.
The USA isn't what everyone makes it out to be.
Originally posted by IsraeliGuy
Double-posting just to add.
Before any enlightened individual starts yelling at me that wars are nothing to be proud of and comparing casualties is sick, I say this:
I am answering someone that said the US lost the wars. I am not bragging about it (I'm not even American to be able to brag about it) nor am I glorifying the fact that people were killed. I didn't even bring up this subject, and this whole thread is about China's military in the firstplace.
So please save your moral bleeding to yourselves, thanks.
Originally posted by lordnightstalker
Originally posted by daaskapital
reply to post by IsraeliGuy
The USA has lost every war since WW2, and wven still, they didn;t to much in the 2 big wars.
They lost Kore, Vietnam, Iraq, and are about to lose Afghanistan. Not to mention some of the little conflicts.
The USA isn't what everyone makes it out to be.
We never lost anything, there hasn't been a "real war" since WW2, not in the sense of having an objective of defeating and occupying your enemy
We have reached satisfactory objectives in all of those wars, we have a "beach head" on the Asian mainland in regards to south korea, we prevented communists from taking Vietnam, we removed Saddam Hussein we also kept a small oil state as a vassal
Our goal wasn't to destroy those place, we got what we wanted
In all reality we could have easily destroyed everyone of those Nations, we defeated the Iraqi military 2x, we Could have killed the people kept the oil, that wasn't our actual goal, we could have bombed the dams in Vietnam and massacred them
In the end what is one of the biggest things we want?
To sell a lot of military hardware all around the world, same as Russia
We have in EVERY actual Military battle simply abused and punished and humiliated every ARMY we have fought, we cream them, Iraqi deaths 100's of thousands all hardware devastated, every land battle in Nom we utterly devastated our opponents
Even in Korea we couldn't be pushed off of Russia and China's own continent, you don't see Chinese forces in Tiajuana with a highly militarized zone do you?
And that was with Russia backing them up and 700,000 Chinese troops, when we broke the 38th the numbers were 15-1 against us and we won 15-1
look at these losses
USA
36,940 dead
92,134 wounded
CHINA
152,000 dead
383,500 wounded
5 to 1 Kill ratio USA
We won battles fighting 15-1, come on man, we never have lost squat
Vietnam
4,000,000 civilian dead;[14]
1,176,000 military dead or missing; 600,000+ wounded
USA
58,220 dead; 303,635 wounded
17-1 kill ratio
Iraq 223,000
USA 4,805
45 -1 Kill ratio
Afghan 41,000 Usa 2,799
14-1 kill ratio
In no case has an enemy ever managed to even attack us on our soil
Really we lost what?