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Maybe not the whole story, posits Starrs.
Hoover had enemies. Hoover's house may have been broken into just before his death. Hoover's toiletries may have had poison placed on them. Hoover's doctor said the FBI chief didn't have serious heart problems. Hoover probably wasn't autopsied. Hoover's remains were embalmed within hours.
Ipso facto, Hoover may have been murdered.
"I hope people take this seriously. There is a need for a thorough investigation of the possibility of homicide," says Starrs, 67, who is also battling the National Park Service for the right to dig up Lewis to possibly prove that the great explorer of the American Northwest was murdered and didn't commit suicide, as is commonly thought.
Starrs also exhumed the outlaw Jesse James in 1995 to prove through DNA testing that it was, in fact, James buried in a plot near Kansas City, Mo. It was.
Below is an article from the "National Examiner" tabloid of January 24, 1984 entitled, "The Mysterious Death of FBI Chief J. Edgar Hoover." The article contends that Hoover may have been murdered.
Hoover was reported dead on May 2, 1972. And the Watergate "break-in" occurred a few weeks later on June 17, 1972. The "break-in" was so slipshod, it seemed that the Watergate burglars wanted to be caught. Did someone want Hoover out of the way?
Then there are others, such as Sherman Skolnick, who contended that Watergate was also partly a cover to distract from Nelson Rockefeller's ambitions to be president without an election. So the Watergate thing has many folds, including the strange Chicago plane crash of Dec. 1972 which killed Dorothy Hunt, the wife of E. Howard Hunt, along with several other key Watergate figures. Skolnick had tons of behind the scenes information on that event.
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Originally posted by Rising Against
So this whole thread was wrote up from a UK point of view.
But were your sources?
Originally posted by Rising Against
reply to post by Biliverdin
But were your sources?
Well yes, some of them.
The Spartacus.Schoolnet website (Such as this page giving a biography on Hoover for example) belongs to, as far as I'm aware, a rather nice Brit by the name of John Simkin. He's fairly well known among JFK researchers in particular. I used quite a few different pages from his site in my Opening posts too as they're brilliant and always informative. If ever you're doing research I'd recommend his site as well.
Of course given the nature of what I'm discussing here you're always going to come across American POV's in research, but the majority of this thread is British in the sense that many of the information found in sources were gathered from Brits and the thread itself was wrote up by me, a Brit... not that it matters all that much anyway though to be fair.
“Due to the existence of suggestive circumstances near the time of Hoover's death, the possibility of his having committed suicide cannot be overlooked. During the months before his death, he was heavily freighted in disputes with the White House over his tenure and performance as the FBI director. On the night of his death, according to his longtime secretary, he had received a disturbing phone call. Sometime between ten and midnight, President Richard Nixon had phoned him to urge him to retire. That means he was in a distraught state of mind just two to four hours prior to his estimated time of death. In addition, Jay Nash had published Citizen Hoover, a brutal assault on Hoover's career. This book was on Hoover's nightstand when his body was found, another item to give him a distinct and cumulative motive for suicide or for cardiac misadventure.
Hoover's obsessive hostility and hatred toward African-Americans was well-known throughout his career, especially in later years. What is less well-known is that rumors about J. Edgar Hoover's possible black ancestry were also widespread during his reign, both inside and outside of the Bureau. There are reports that Hoover deployed his agents to track down rumors of his black ancestry, just as he did regarding rumors and reports about his homosexuality.
Author Anthony Summers, in researching his book Official and Confidential, interviewed writer Gore Vidal, who grew up in Washington, D.C. in the 1930s. ``Hoover was becoming famous,'' Vidal told Summers, ``and it was always said of him--in my family and around the city--that he was mulatto. People said he came from a family that had `passed.' It was the word they used for people of black origin who, after generations of inbreeding, have enough white blood to pass themselves off as white. That's what was always said about Hoover.''
As Millie McGhee, now 52, tells the story in her book Secrets Uncovered, and also in interviews with EIRNS, her grandfather, whom she called ``Big Daddy,'' asked her how J. Edgar Hoover's name had come up.
``In my history class I learned that he is the director of the FBI,'' young Millie answered. ``Someone said he has even more power than the President of the United States.''
``Well, that could be true,'' her grandfather responded. ``He does have a lot of power.'' He then shrugged, and went on: ``That old goat is related to me, he is my second cousin.''
Her grandfather warned her not to tell anyone. ``This is a family secret,'' the girl was told. Her grandfather said that Hoover was ``passing,'' and that he could have them all killed, that they could be burned in their beds as they sleep. ``He doesn't want the secret out, and he is a powerful man!'' the trembling young girl was told.
When the young girl asked her grandfather if there wouldn't be records, such as a birth certificate, which would show him to be related to the family of former slaves, her grandfather told her: ``J. Edgar Hoover has a lot of power. He can destroy files, and he's already done it.'
In subsequent research, conducted since the publication of the first edition of McGhee's book, Ott has found census records for Mississippi that also correspond to the family oral tradition regarding ``Emily,'' and he has recently found records which appear to link the Maryland and the Mississippi Hoover families. Ott also found strange--and highly unusual--alterations and erasures in some of the census records pertaining to other Hoovers in Washington.
I've recently watched the movie J Edgar, which was rather interesting as well. You did not - by chance - watch it as well and got inspired by it in regards to your thread ?