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I had previously found some material that covered one or two incidents that the monks felt the oracles had been correct about, but it seemed meager and I was wanting to research it further before posting it here.
I'll get back on that and see what I come up with, and would also appreciate anyone else's input on that aspect of this subject.
As early as 1945,four years before the end of China’s civil war and with it the inevitable renewal of aggression against Tibet by the victor, the State Oracle had faced eastward in a trance, wildly shaking his head in warning. In 1947, he had prophesied that in the Year of the Iron Tiger—1950—Tibet would face "great difficulty." ...
These prophesies, combined with other perceived signs from the gods of danger for Tibet, such as the earthquake in 1950 in the south of the country, and a second prophesy by the Oracle a few months before the appearance of Chinese soldiers close to the Norbulingka (Avedon, 1997 52) precipitated the Dalai Lama’s flight to India in 1959.
The latter of the test is considered to be significantly tougher and impossible to complete without the Protector being present. The Protector is the spirit of the true oracle. When the oracle makes a prophecy, the words are carefully recorded by a secretary. With numerous prophecies on file, they ones administering the test can simply turn to a specific date in the past and request the information from the new oracle that was given. For the oracle to be authentic and the Protector to be present, the oracle must be able to recite word for word the word the previous predictions of past oracles under the control of the Protector. This second test is considered conclusive, and should be. For an oracle under trance to be able o recite word for word past prophecies given implies that some other force is acting on the situation. It would be impossible to memorize all of the previous prophecies given, and therefore, it must be the case that some spiritual force is involved.
Maybe that's as hacked as the Dalai Lama every gets. I get more perturbed than that just looking' in the mirror sometimes.
In his autobiography, Freedom in Exile, His Holiness the Dalai Lama writes:
"For hundreds of years now, it has been traditional for the Dalai Lama, and the Government, to consult Nechung during the New Year festivals…
…I myself have dealings with him several times a year. This may sound far-fetched to twentieth-century western readers. Even some Tibetans, mostly those who consider themselves ’progressive’, have misgivings about my continued use of this ancient method of intelligence gathering.
But I do so for the simple reason that as I look back over the many occasions when I have asked questions of the oracle, on each one of them time has proved that his answer was correct…
…in addition to Nechung’s counsel, I also take into consideration certain prophecies….
"In one respect, the responsibility of Nechung and the responsibility of the Dalai Lama towards Tibet are the same, though we act in different ways. My task, that of leadership, is peaceful. His, in his capacity as protector and defender, is wrathful.
However, although our functions are similar, my relationship with Nechung is that of commander to lieutenant: I never bow down to him. It is for Nechung to bow to the Dalai Lama. Yet we are very close, friends almost. When I was small, it was touching. Nechung liked me a lot and always took great care of me. For example, if he noticed that I had dressed carelessly or improperly, he would come over and rearrange my shirt, adjust my robe and so on.
"Nechung has always shown respect for me. Even when his relations with the Government have deteriorated, as they did during the last few years of the Regency, he invariably responds enthusiastically whenever asked anything about me. At the same time, his replies to questions about government policy can be crushing. Sometimes he just responds with a burst of sarcastic laughter.
When the medium is under possession, sometimes a sword is presented to the medium. This occurs at the height of possession. The oracle is given the sword subsequently utilizes his enormous, unnatural strength to bend it either into a spiral or a ‘U’ shape.
The strength exhibited is staggering. A reporter who was present for this exhibition examined the sword after it had been bent to check its authenticity: “a short sword was handed to the oracle who grasped the hilt with the right hand, and setting the point of the weapon against the right side of the of the strong leather belt which he was wearing underneath his apron he pressed against the sword until the blade was bent into a U-form. – After the end of the ceremony I tried to bend the sword straight again, but without the slightest effect.” (De’Nebesky-Wojkowitz 434).
originally posted by: preludefanguy
The Dali lama is not fully enlightened, and he knows this. Unbeknownst to him, he is helping keep these things attached to their life through our consciousness. And as long as this continues, in any form, the human subconscious will be kept in enslavement, their myth of who we are, where we've come from, and what we are capable of, used to hijack the truth.