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Did you experience your OBEs during your sleep, or did you go through a mental exercise while awake to achieve your astral travel? If you did mental
exercises, can you describe the steps you took to achieve it?
thank you for your kind words. Really a great thread!
There happened something interesting before i had my first OBE. I think it is important since it had some implications for later events:
Three days before i experienced my OBE i had a dream in which i floated around somewhere and my body rotated. It was a great feeling but strange.
Suddenly a man appared saying "What do we have here?". Then the dream ended.
In the following night - two days before my first OBE - again i had a dream. This "man" from previous dream appeared again and took me on a flight
through space. It was a great feeling and it was exciting since i was able to see the milkyway from my flight position. We reached a kind of beach bar
and after a short break we flew back. Before he left he asked what i in addition want to know. I asked him how to navigate through space when flying
by myself. He explained that it is necessary to focus the consciousness on the target.
Remark: A few days later i learned that the man was "Robert", a decedent (spirit) who was "assigned" to help me in making the OBE experience. A few
month later i was informed that there are so called "helper spirits". These are "normal" decedents willing to help and support humans if necessary for
a certain time. "Robert" was one of those "helper spirits".
Then I had my first OBE. To answer your question:
I experienced this OBE and two others in waking state. There was no alcohol, no substances or medicine used. The air was fresh and clean, i felt
excellent at this time. And it was very easy to leave the body because i received "help" from my guide (i mentioned above)..
The OBE included a time travel and i remembered the lessons i have learned in the dream two days before.
At this time i was not aware of my guide's support. I thought i simply do have the capability. It was so exciting that i wanted to change my life. My
wish was to travel through time, check historical data and give feedback to scientists.
Very silly i recognized very soon. :-)
I started to read documents in internet, bought books to learn how i can achieve this wonderful experience again and worked very hard on meditation. I
failed day by day by trying it manually with one exception. The experience i had is the following (and i will explain why i failed so many times):
#1: It is possible to initiate an OBE by meditation (no substances/chemicals!)
#2: It is necessary to bring the thoughts down to silence. This is not easy at all but it can be trained. I achieved that after 2-3 weeks of daily
#3: I faced two critical stages when reaching this "silence". This stages are related to a check by the body. This check has to do with: "Does he
sleep already" or "is he still awake?".
Stage 1: The nose started with an increasing itch. For the first cases i was not able to resist against this strong itch and i begun to rub the
nose. This was the end of my trial, the body recognized, that i'm still awake.
Stage 2: Some days later i learned to resist this itches and the next check was initiated: a swallowing reflex.
The drive for gulping was extreme and i failed a lot of times to resist.
I tried to overcome these two barriers again and again and finally i was able to manage it.
#4: I developed my own strategy to "hide" my thoughts. I imagined a cave in my brain where i could hide away my thoughts. This was a very interesting
state because i just waited for the next step doing simply nothing.
#5: After a few seconds when i have passed i observed very pleasant waves going through my body with increasing intensity. Based on the books I've
read and the information from internet i knew that i'm approaching the phase of leaving the body.
#6: Now the big BUT:
Even i sensed the separation from my physical body i failed. I failed again and again. I was somewhat desperate because i was sure that all
things went ok for leaving the body.
There was one exception where i was able to leave but the separation process stopped half-way. I left my physical body through the back and saw my
hands still sticking in the body where the remaing part was outside already. In that moment that i recognized the i sticked i was pulled back into my
Now what went wrong?
A few weeks later i asked my guide whether he could help me again. And the answer was very, very interesting:
My guide had blocked all trials because of my ego. I wanted to be the "big champ" traveling through space and time and this he didn't allow!
You can possibly imagine how irritated i was. But i understood and with this answer i stopped all excercises.
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