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Originally posted by Blaine91555
reply to post by Mister_Bit
You do understand that the Theocracy in Iran is a Dictatorship and the President is a figurehead correct?
The citizens are prisoners to that Theocracy.
It's not the people of Iran doing this.
Sunni (who make up 90% of all Muslims) Hadiths stipulating the death penalty are:-
Some Shia (who make up perhaps 10% of all Muslims) Hadith stipulate the death penalty.
Bukhari (11:626) -
"The Prophet said, "No prayer is harder for the hypocrites than the Fajr and the 'Isha' prayers and if they knew the reward for these prayers at their respective times, they would certainly present themselves (in the mosques) even if they had to crawl." The Prophet added, "Certainly I decided to order the Mu'adh-dhin (call-maker) to pronounce Iqama and order a man to lead the prayer and then take a fire flame to burn all those who had not left their houses so far for the prayer along with their houses."
Muhammad orders his men to burn alive those who do not present themselves at the mosque for prayer.
Originally posted by Wirral Bagpuss
I often wonder what would happen if a Muslim preacher was condemed to death for preaching their faith in a predominately Christian country.
Iranian Government Security Forces Burn Hundreds of Bibles
Originally posted by pitchdragon
so "The US is a secular nation, and the US Military is secular as well" realy ?
there are also Hindus, Muslims, Wiccans, even Satanists in it as well but the one who lead them ?
faulty foundation you said... i don't think so...
Originally posted by kman420
Honestly, america has killed more muslims for being muslims than iraq has killed christians for being christians... I fail to see the difference.
Originally posted by Thetawave
You're not allowed to criticise when an apostate is executed
You're not allowed to criticise when a Homosexual is hung
You're not allowed to criticise when a rape victim is stoned to death
And you defentialy cannot criticise when a women is stoned to death for falling in love with another man.
If you do you're an Islamophobic Nazified Zionistic Racist.
“Islam makes it incumbent on all adult males, provided they are not disabled and incapacitated, to prepare themselves for the conquest of [other] countries so that the writ of Islam is obeyed in every country in the world.
But those who study Islamic Holy War will understand why Islam wants to conquer the whole world….
Those who know nothing of Islam pretend that Islam counsels against war.
Those [who say this] are witless.
Islam says, kill all the unbelievers just as they would kill you all!
...Whatever good there is, exists thanks to the sword, and in the shadow of the sword!
People cannot be made obedient, except with the sword! The sword is the key to Paradise, which can be opened only for Holy Warriors!
...Does all that mean that Islam is a religion that prevents men from waging war? I spit upon those foolish souls who make such a claim.”
—Ayatollah Khomeini (1902-1989) Iran’s Supreme Leader from 1979 to 1989—the highest ranking political and religious authority of the nation.
That's like saying a black person in the 50's shouldn't
Originally posted by Mister_Bit
It does suck big time, no one disputes that... but if you walk into a building burning in a parafin suit chances are something bad is going to happen right?
Originally posted by FlyersFan
Originally posted by Mister_Bit
if Iran does't want Christianity, who are you to enforce it on them?
Where did I say that I'm enforcing Christianity upon them? No where.
Their own laws say that someone can be Christian if they were born that way.
This person didn't break the law.
The law says that an adult muslim can not convert to Christianity.
He did not convert as an adult, but as a youth.
Therefore, he didn't break their law. But they are killing him off anyways.
Why can't you get that? It's not your place to say what another country chooses to do
I already said they can do with their country what they want. But since you bring it up .. I guess the entire world should ignore when these things come up. (unless it comes up in the USA, then it can be a free for all against the USA, right?). We should all ignore these things and not discuss them and not expose them ... afterall ... (example) it was none of our business about Apartheid in South Africa too. Guess the world screwed up by talking about what was happening and banding together and boycotting South Africa until it changed it's policies ... Guess they should go back to apartheid .. afterall .. it was non one's business how they ran their country and we had no business boycotting or even talking about it. Right?
As a Christian, he went to live and preach as a Christain in a muslim country, anyone can see that is asking for trouble but he was prepared to do so, he got his reward... why worry about him? Isn't he sat playing table tennis with jesus and his chums right now?
Again, you don't believe in murder, but he shouldn't have put himself in this position?
Religion is fudged up, but people are free to believe what they will, countries are free to make what laws and govern how they see fit, you may not agree with those rules, go vote them out... oh, you can't, it's not your country.
No one is saying it's right to murder someone for what the believe but this guy put himself in that position, he was playing with fire and got burnt.
Originally posted by casenately
You just put caps on like that dumbass before said, maybe you need some wd40...I don't think so, but hey there really isn't scream button.
Originally posted by volafox
reply to post by FlyersFan
And to think, they whine and cry and throw fits when Americans voice concern, dismay, or disdain for their backwards ways.
Allah was supposed to be about love, wasn't he?
Timeline of Muhammad's Life (A.D)
570 - Born in Mecca
576 - Orphaned upon death of mother
595 - Marries Kadijah - older, wealthy widow
610 - Reports first revelations from angel at age of 40
619 - Protector uncle dies
622 - Emigrates from Mecca to Medina (the Hijra)
623 - Orders raids on Meccan caravans
624 - Battle of Badr (victory)
624 - Evicts Qaynuqa Jews from Medina
624 - Orders the assassination of Abu Afak
624 - Orders the assassination of Asma bint Marwan
624 - Orders the assassination of Ka'b al-Ashraf
625 - Battle of Uhud (defeat)
625 - Evicts Nadir Jews
627 - Battle of the Trench (victory)
627 - Massacre of the Qurayza Jews
628 - Signing of the Treaty of Hudaibiya with Mecca
628 - Destruction and subjugation of the Khaybar Jews
629 - Orders first raid into Christian lands at Muta (defeat)
630 - Conquers Mecca by surprise (along with other tribes)
631 - Leads second raid into Christian territory at Tabuk (no battle)
632 - Dies.
"The apostle of Allah imprisoned the Qurayza in Medina while trenches were dug in the market-place. Then he sent for the men and had their heads struck off so that they fell in the trenches. They were brought out in groups, and among them was Kab, the chief of the tribe. In number, they amounted to six or seven hundred, although some state it to have been eight or nine hundred. All were executed. One man turned to his people and said, 'It matters not! By God's will, the children of Israel were destined for this massacre!’ Then he seated himself and his head was struck off...
...Now the apostle distributed the property of the Banu Qurayza, as well as their women and children, to the Muslims, reserving one-fifth for himself.Every horseman received three shares, one for himself and two for his steed, and every foot soldier one share. There were thirty-six horses present on the day of the Qurayza. The apostle dispatched an emissary to Najd with the prisoners, to barter them as slaves in exchange for horses and camels. The apostle of Allah selected one of the Jewish women, Rayhana, for himself, and she remained with him as his slave until she died. He had suggested marriage to her, that she should wear the veil (to separate her from all other persons, as his wives did), but she replied, 'Rather allow me to remain thy slave; it will be more easy for me, and for thee.'"
From page 84 & 85 of Ibn Ishaq's autobiography about Muhammad
Originally posted by anarky1965
The Christian Church killed far more "heretics" during the Inquisition than any other religion.
33:26 He also brought down their allies among the people of the scripture from their secure positions, and threw terror into their hearts. Some of them you killed, and some you took captive.
33:27 He made you inherit their land, their homes, their money, and lands you had never stepped on. God is in full control of all things.
Note the above source is The authorized translation of the Koran.
33:26 Those People of the Scripture who allied with the clans (despite having a treaty with you), have been taken out from their forts and strongholds, and panic has struck their hearts. Some of them were killed in the battle and others were taken prisoners of war. (The Jewish tribe, Bani Quraizah had violated the treaty, although another Jewish tribe, Bani Nadir of Khyber had also been among the confederates).
Wait until iran gets a nuclear bomb they will use it against us the way they were killing my friends in iraq by supplying the terrorists with weapons and bombs.