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Catholics: How is fish not meat?

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posted on Feb, 22 2012 @ 12:54 PM
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Seriously I'm here to pick a fight. My grandmother won't agrue with me anymore over it. How is fish now considerd meat? Is it becasue they don't have legs?

Convince a person fish aint meat and they might as well believe the earth is flat.




posted on Feb, 22 2012 @ 12:56 PM
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I mostly agree with you on this one. Fish meat and Land meats have many major differences nutritionally speaking. But to consider one meat and the other something else. Just absurd.



posted on Feb, 22 2012 @ 12:57 PM
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That's okay ... we really got into the discussion with eggs too. Are eggs meat or not?
You could really get into this deep ....
.... no bacon bits for your salad ... nothing
with meat byproducts in any of the food ....



posted on Feb, 22 2012 @ 12:58 PM
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Originally posted by FlyersFan
That's okay ... we really got into the discussion with eggs too. Are eggs meat or not?
You could really get into this deep ....
.... no bacon bits for your salad ... nothing
with meat byproducts in any of the food ....

I only consider eggs meat if they're fertilised. I consider anything with a face meat.



posted on Feb, 22 2012 @ 12:59 PM
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Meat is Muscle tissue....Really its not that hard...

but illl give your grandma a pass, because by comparison everyone over 50 is mentally retarded by default.



posted on Feb, 22 2012 @ 12:59 PM
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the canon that talks about not eating meat uses the latin verb, carne. Fish is not considered carne.

use google rather than picking a fight.



posted on Feb, 22 2012 @ 01:00 PM
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Is the differentiation required to follow tradition?



posted on Feb, 22 2012 @ 01:01 PM
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bahahahah i have never thought this over, now that i have... LOL.

if you believe about a talking snake in the bible, and practice and worship some "god" other than yourself, than all your doing is what the bible tells you.... hence fish IS NOT meat !!!!






EDIT- i forgot to put my personal opinion, fish is meat... if that cant be grasped than... well i am ripping my hair out just thinking about people not grasping it.

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posted on Feb, 22 2012 @ 01:03 PM
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I consider fish to be meat. How could it not be meat, unless a person wants to play semantical games.

I dont eat either. One is full of rBGH, and the other, mercury.
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posted on Feb, 22 2012 @ 01:03 PM
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"Abstinentiae lex vetat carne vesei, non autem ovis, lacticiniis et quibuslibet condimentis etiam ex adipe animalium"

(Translation): The law of abstinence forbids the use of meat, but not of eggs, the products of milk, or condiments made of animal fat.

That's from an old text book of mine.

When that was written the Latin term Carnis (meat) referred to mammals and birds only. So, fish, seafood, amphibians, and insects are all potentially on the plate Friday night during lent. I always look forward to fish fry season this time of year. My local church makes a mean battered Perch and Pierogie plate. Good Stuff.

I still waiting for Frog legs to turn up on the Lenten menu.



posted on Feb, 22 2012 @ 01:05 PM
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Thank you for proving that I am not, in fact, surrounded by morons.

Second line



posted on Feb, 22 2012 @ 01:06 PM
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Marid I see the latin noun for carne means meat - nothing on the verb, or anything stating it's not fish. Can you show where you see this at?



posted on Feb, 22 2012 @ 01:08 PM
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see my post a couple of lines up

Old Latin

Noun

carnis (genitive carnis); f, third declension

meat, flesh
the body
sapwood

en.wiktionary.org...

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posted on Feb, 22 2012 @ 01:08 PM
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Im ripping my hair out at the thought of you worshipping yourself. Talking snakes? You dont get it, do you?



posted on Feb, 22 2012 @ 01:12 PM
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jibeho - I saw that, I'm more interested in seeing something from a google search. I tried searching google and could not find that info. Just wondering if my search words are not correct, or the info isn't right there as suggested. Also, no offense, but you telling me that's from a book you have, but it's meaning has since changed does not mean much to me.

Not trying to argue the point as much as figure out why I can't find it in a google search.



posted on Feb, 22 2012 @ 01:24 PM
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Fish - is an aquatic animal (a water animal)

Meat - is food from animals that reside on land



posted on Feb, 22 2012 @ 01:24 PM
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Try searching for Old Latin: Carnis

I cited the latin version of this text by Pope Paul VI

III. 1. The law of abstinence forbids the use of meat, but not of eggs, the products of milk or condiments made of animal fat.

www.ewtn.com...

Its been a long time since my days in Catholic School. We still had one Latin mass a week then
www.latin-dictionary.org...



posted on Feb, 22 2012 @ 01:31 PM
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Originally posted by jibeho
reply to post by ByTor420
 


I cited the latin version of this text by Pope Paul VI

III. 1. The law of abstinence forbids the use of meat, but not of eggs, the products of milk or condiments made of animal fat.

www.ewtn.com...


OK so using the above, how is fish excluded? It's not eggs, product of milk, or a condiment made from animal fat. I would call it meat though.

I was hoping to find something that actually referred to fish and made it a little more clear.
Thanks for the help though.



posted on Feb, 22 2012 @ 01:40 PM
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I have always read/heard that in South America, the Capybara (a rodent) is classified as a fish by the Catholics, so that they can eat it on days when they are only allowed to eat fish. So, I guess if a huge rat can be classified to be a fish, then cows and other animals can then also be classified as fish in order to eat them on the Fish-only days. I guess it is one of those weird, but true things.


OK, here's the Capybara update. As reported in Scientific American, October, 1994: Lots of capybara meat is/was eaten by Colombians and Venezuelans who appealed to the Vatican during the 16th century in order to be allowed to eat capybaras during Lent. The pope back then declared the capybara to be a fish; according to a 1991 survey, approximately 400 tons of capybara are eaten each year. Since a capybara weighs about 100 lbs, if one capybara yields 25 lbs of edible stuff, that's about 32,000 capybaras per year down the collective hatch.


www.hep.uiuc.edu...


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posted on Feb, 22 2012 @ 01:45 PM
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So why are you concerned about what another person eats or what they define "meat" as? If your grandmother wants to eat fish on Fridays, why are you arguing with her? Just so you can feel superior to an older lady? Go to McDonalds and leave her alone. If you don't want to practice a religion, you don't have to, but that doesn't give anyone license to ridicule that belief.




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