Originally posted by network dude
reply to post by lonewolf19792000
Yes, and I think my biggest problem with the fundamentalist approach, is that how I seek him is my business. My spiritual journey may be very
different than some group of born again's who all think you have to follow their cookie cutter plan. Then you hear of another group, claiming to be
the saved ones, telling you of a different cookie cutter.
I can appreciate people offering to help someone find God when asked, but I don't like the idea of pounding the idea into someone. If they decide to
search for God, they will when they are ready. And when they find him because they are ready, the relationship will be real, and true, and beautiful.
Unlike most of the fundies, I don't KNOW where my soul will end up. I can only hope it's in a good place. But that will not be judged on how many
times I read the Bible, or how many times I went to church. It will be decided by how I lived my life, and how my actions influenced others.
You're on the right track if you have enough humility to not boldly claim with pride and vanity that you're going to heaven and youre right you will
be judged by how you lived your life, but also by what you did with Christ's message. If you see someone do not be afraid to share the message with
Christ. If we are ashamed of him, he will be ashamed of us. No one is ever ready to search for Jesus or can ever be ready. If everyone waited to be
ready, no one would seek him out.
Then again according to Ephesians those who do believe and can believe in Jesus were predestined to believe, chosen to believe in him. This could
explain why he wanted the message spread across the earth, so that it would reach the sleepers who would awaken when they hear of him. This could be
what he was talking about when he gave the parable of the wheat and the tares. Not everyone is chosen to believe in Jesus or everyone on the planet
would be saved by default instead of being required to believe in him and do the works of Yahweh.
3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who has blessed us with every spiritual blessing in the heavenly places in Christ, 4 just as
He chose us in Him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before Him in love, 5 having predestined us to
adoption as sons by Jesus Christ to Himself, according to the good pleasure of His will, 6 to the praise of the glory of His grace, by which He made
us accepted in the Beloved.
7 In Him we have redemption through His blood, the forgiveness of sins, according to the riches of His grace 8 which He made to abound toward us in
all wisdom and prudence, 9 having made known to us the mystery of His will, according to His good pleasure which He purposed in Himself, 10 that in
the dispensation of the fullness of the times He might gather together in one all things in Christ, both[a] which are in heaven and which are on
earth—in Him. 11 In Him also we have obtained an inheritance, being predestined according to the purpose of Him who works all things according to
the counsel of His will, 12 that we who first trusted in Christ should be to the praise of His glory.
13 In Him you also trusted, after you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation; in whom also, having believed, you were sealed with the
Holy Spirit of promise, 14 who is the guarantee of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, to the praise of His glory.
This is in regards to people who have never heard the gospel and their judgement
Jeremiah 17:10 "I the LORD search the heart and examine the mind, to reward a man according to his conduct, according to what his deeds deserve."
Matthew 16:27 For the Son of Man is going to come in his Father's glory with his angels, and then he will reward each person according to what he has
I recommend reading each full chapter to garner the context of the verses, because the chapter sets the context. Yahweh is a just and righteous
God...i cannot imagine he would hit the delete button on some pygmies from some remote jungle in Africa who do not even know there is a Jesus muchless
who or what Yahweh is. This is a subject that is hotly debated. If you want to know the truth, read the 4 gospels and Jesus will tell you. I like to
kick it old school, no one can teach you better then Jesus can. He desires mercy not sacrifice. So be merciful and show compassion whenever you have
the opportunity and look for those opportunities.
Good luck in your quest for answers.
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