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Georgia Democrats to propose bill that limits vasectomies for men

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posted on Feb, 22 2012 @ 03:50 PM
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Originally posted by N3k9Ni
Abortion on demand has killed millions of unborn children only for convenience. This type of ethos leads to the dehumanization of the entire human race. Life becomes meaningless when we devalue it at any point. Take religion out of it and you still are faced with a morality which supposes that indiscriminate killing is ok. I believe in limited government and think on the whole that governments should stay out of peoples choices but anyone that does not see the epidemic problem with abortion on demand is living life with blinders on. Plus 20 weeks, the fetus is a child. Does it matter to anyone on the pro choice side that they are killing human life?

Men not having the ability to have a child does not hurt a child. Abortion kills a living human being. What is the difference in having an abortion or smashing a newborn on the sidewalk? They will both feel pain and hopefully they will die the first time. Some late term abortions do not kill the fetus the first time. If a man has a vasectomy – no one is hurt.

This is just diverting attention from the real issue. The goal is not to control a woman’s reproductive system, the goal is to protect innocent life that cannot protect itself. You can believe whatever makes you feel better, but the ultimate truth is a fetus is a living human being. Unfortunately, only a woman can get pregnant, so this particular issue impacts women in a very personal way. But that does not change the impact that an abortion has on an innocent life.

How can anyone equate killing half developed babies to preventing the pregnancy to begin with?

Except, you know, a fetus isn't a living human being until the 23rd week.


Originally posted by GeorgiaGirl
Ridiculous. Shame on you, Georgia Democrats.

When I read the linked article, it said the GA Dems in question are simply trying to raise awareness, so they KNOW it is ridiculous. The bill they are fighting (or trying to make people aware of) has to do with abortions after 20 weeks. SERIOUSLY???? 20 WEEKS??? How is that NOT a baby, at 20 weeks of fetal development? Even someone who is pro-choice should be sickened at the idea of a baby at later stages of development being killed like that.

I'm embarassed the this is connected with Georgia in any way.

As mentioned in other threads, a fetus cannot survive outside of the womb prior to 23 weeks. Hell, the facilities for consciousness don't even develop until 24 weeks.




posted on Feb, 22 2012 @ 04:19 PM
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Originally posted by AnarchoCapitalist

Originally posted by popsmayhem
Comparing my vasectomie to
a women having an abortion is asinine.


You sir have no future in politics.

Believing in asinine propaganda while being willing to use violence to enforce your beliefs on the rest of society is a prerequisite.





How was my vasectomies killing an UN-born fertilized fetus..
One where the sperm/fertilizer has not been introduced
into an egg.. There are not developing fetus eggs.
These were just the fertilizers. If the egg in a female
has not yet been fertilized by male sperm then there
is no fetus developing.. Please learn some basic science
and biology again.

The abortion was a much more traumatizing experience.
Even more painful then the vasectomie.

Do I have a problem with women selling their eggs
to couples who can no have babies? NO
Do i have a problem with sperm banks? NO
Could care less if a women wants an abortion
she is going to do it one way or the other
but comparing them is just not denying ignorance
no matter how much sarcasm one injects into
this thread... Get real with me homes.
edit on 22-2-2012 by popsmayhem because: (no reason given)



posted on Feb, 22 2012 @ 07:33 PM
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Originally posted by SG-17

As mentioned in other threads, a fetus cannot survive outside of the womb prior to 23 weeks. Hell, the facilities for consciousness don't even develop until 24 weeks.


That has to be the most pathetic excuse I have ever heard for killing a baby.



posted on Feb, 22 2012 @ 08:06 PM
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Maybe the comparison to abortion is off but since we're hotly debating whether or not birth control for women should be covered by insurance then I think it's fair to pose the same for men. Viagra too. Would love to see those older men in the senate and congress debate the morals of viagra and how it's no ones business but men's etc...



posted on Feb, 22 2012 @ 08:51 PM
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Ask a rape victim or a mother whose life was in danger if they did it out of convenience.

Your type of ignorance is alarming because you are thinking emotionally, not rationally.


 
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posted on Feb, 22 2012 @ 09:02 PM
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Originally posted by GeorgiaGirl
Ridiculous. Shame on you, Georgia Democrats.

When I read the linked article, it said the GA Dems in question are simply trying to raise awareness, so they KNOW it is ridiculous. The bill they are fighting (or trying to make people aware of) has to do with abortions after 20 weeks. SERIOUSLY???? 20 WEEKS??? How is that NOT a baby, at 20 weeks of fetal development? Even someone who is pro-choice should be sickened at the idea of a baby at later stages of development being killed like that.

I'm embarassed the this is connected with Georgia in any way.


I am pro-choice and I do draw a line, for me it's 6 weeks. I know the argument, it's a baby no matter what stage of development, but that's my stance. I would agree that 20 weeks is ridiculous, unless of course it's going to kill the mother.



posted on Feb, 22 2012 @ 09:09 PM
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Originally posted by thisguyrighthere
Every masturbatory ejaculation should come with at least one manslaughter charge. Maybe even a couple of thousand.

Why, that puts me in mind of a song....let's all join in on the chorus!!



posted on Feb, 22 2012 @ 09:25 PM
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Originally posted by N3k9Ni

Originally posted by SG-17

As mentioned in other threads, a fetus cannot survive outside of the womb prior to 23 weeks. Hell, the facilities for consciousness don't even develop until 24 weeks.


That has to be the most pathetic excuse I have ever heard for killing a baby.
What baby? There isn't one until after the 23rd week.



posted on Feb, 22 2012 @ 09:35 PM
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Originally posted by Kali74
Maybe the comparison to abortion is off but since we're hotly debating whether or not birth control for women should be covered by insurance then I think it's fair to pose the same for men. Viagra too. Would love to see those older men in the senate and congress debate the morals of viagra and how it's no ones business but men's etc...


I think you make an outstanding point on that and it's actually been a pet peeve of mine since I first heard it was happening way back. Viagra should NOT be covered by insurance. No if's and's or but's. Enough with short changing people on the care for things which kill or cripple while we free ride people for Viagra and The Pill. Enough Enough.

If we all agree that health costs are out of control..and I think we do..then lets start right there at cutting this garbage that people won't die from, be crippled by or cause others to become sick because of. That crap is personal business to handle personally...unless an insurance company CHOOSES to offer it and they can count me off their plan if they do. I don't need to pay premiums for others to get it. Maybe costs would drop just a pinch? It's sure not Government's place either way.



posted on Feb, 22 2012 @ 09:44 PM
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If a man does not want to father a child and wants a vasectomy,I say
go for it.He should be allowed to have the proceedure done.



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