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Evidence Of Advanced Technology Thousands Of Years Ago In Peru (Interesting)

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posted on Feb, 23 2012 @ 01:32 PM
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Hmmm, True. Didn't think of that. lol. They need to be really well polished to be see through enough to use as prisms though. I'm still going with mathematics personally.







 
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posted on Feb, 23 2012 @ 01:33 PM
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im personally going with a combination of the two
the math being based on observations of this natural phenomenon

see my last post on the previous page
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posted on Feb, 23 2012 @ 01:39 PM
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I would love to have seen them transporting the huge obelisk at Luxor though, that would of been a sight to see and then some! It weighed 254 tons and was 82 feet high, but the most astounding was the unfinished obelisk at Aswan, that would have been if finished and transported, 137 foot high and weighed 1168 tons and would of had a base of about 4.2 metres each side... now that would of been a tremendous feat of ingenuity to have transported that if it would of been completed!!! How in the hell would they have gone about it without horse and wheel? Wether it wasnt completed due to A: to big to transport, B: due to wrong figures employed when carving it, C:breakage or D: runout of manual labour and goods to pay for manual labour you've got to hand it to them, just contemplating that astronomical task is enough to give them utmost respect in my book!!

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posted on Feb, 23 2012 @ 01:46 PM
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well I know I got the subject turned over to mirrors and such, but this thread has made me watch a ton of stone mason videos on youtube, and im starting to think for the most part these stones were made with simple feather/wedge technique, most of the time if the mason does it right the stones are split very clean like it was cut, but sometimes it doesnt which is where the random puzzle looking pieces were fit in.

Some designs im not sure this would fit for, like those coffins. Im not sure how you would remove a block from a block that way, IF they are actually one piece (and not exaggerated like fringe shows like to do). You may be able to just do it painfully slow and chisel the whole thing out and polish it down after. Im guessing it was a very painful process because not many of them exist.

As for puma punku, it would almost be the same way, either painful chiseling with polishing (polishing part would impress me more then cutting it), or they were able to start feather/wedge from the top and then come in from the sides it may split off the main square to remove and then they could repeat that for the middle layered part of it. This seems somewhat plausible to me because from pictures of the stones, some of them are done really straight, and some of them have wavy edges, which is what happens with the feather/wedge technique.


So maybe it was just a few thousand stone masons putting in a few years of really hard work to build this stuff, after doing it that long youd get pretty good at it, and the masons always held their trade secrets dearly and maybe this is why.

One of these days when I get bored enough I want to go buy a block of granite and some simple tools to play around with it and see what I could come up with.
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posted on Feb, 23 2012 @ 02:00 PM
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agreed
some of the larger or oddly shaped structure structures become problematic however and i believe there were techniques used that we are unaware of
ie some the stone vessels with extremely narrow necks and larger more rounded bottoms, interior passages etc.

but almost all of it is doable with a little elbow grease and know how
its pretty silly to say ancient man couldnt have done these things just because theres a small portion we cant explain

im sure a lot of people here initially heard about the masons as some kind of strange cult bent on world domination.... the more i learn the more im certain this image is portrayed to draw people away from free thought and set the masons up as a scapegoat for the banking cartels when people inevitably realize hey.... there really is some kind of huge conspiracy going on! (and youve heard rumors of the masons for years youre going to jump to conclusions)

/end rant
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posted on Feb, 23 2012 @ 02:14 PM
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But... feather/wedge technique doesn't produce the results seen in the OPs video.

I've seen similar results when using a circular saw blade to cut stone where the pressure from the blade causes the stone to fracture and split off before the stone is cut all the way through... just like in the video.
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posted on Feb, 23 2012 @ 02:18 PM
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not by itself it doesnt
you use a variety of techniques
there arent too many things you can produce using one method exclusively

ive seen these results before actually.... to me these look like stress fractures
you score the surface of the rock and then rapidly increase and decrease its temperature causing it to fracture along the score mark

www.youtube.com...

please watch this video

it seems very similar

you can get very precise edges using this method
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edit:sorry wrong vid
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posted on Feb, 23 2012 @ 02:22 PM
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True, but that definitely looks like string cutting



posted on Feb, 23 2012 @ 02:24 PM
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www.youtube.com...


watch that
tell me what you think
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edit: lol sorry wrong vid at first
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posted on Feb, 23 2012 @ 02:33 PM
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off course aliens were here first .
Hey our old testament states that there were worlds here before us and the books were banned by the early christian church.

check out the Book of Enoch about all the aliens and giants who were raping the human women and eating the men.
there is in the iraqi museum a battery that was made 2000 years ago where did it come from?

there is no way the pyramids were build by us they are too huge the blocks for our machines today. the giants build them



posted on Feb, 23 2012 @ 02:33 PM
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off course aliens were here first .
Hey our old testament states that there were worlds here before us and the books were banned by the early christian church.

check out the Book of Enoch about all the aliens and giants who were raping the human women and eating the men.
there is in the iraqi museum a battery that was made 2000 years ago where did it come from?

there is no way the pyramids were build by us they are too huge the blocks for our machines today. the giants build them



posted on Feb, 23 2012 @ 02:40 PM
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lol I was already watching those looking for string cutting videos


kind of goes with what I was saying earlier using some kind of acid, maybe they just did acid strings, or diamond strings, or diamond acid strings.

really wish I had the spare time/money to play with this stuff myself and try to put all this to rest.



posted on Feb, 23 2012 @ 02:43 PM
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did you watch all the way through?

he doesnt use the string the heated string is actually TOO intense and cause the irregularities in the break
its the gradual stress of expansion and contraction that makes it so easy to manipulate the fracture giving a break as clean as a razors edge

the guy makes no mention of using this for stone but i think its safe to say the same method would be effective yeah?


agreed about testing it.... i actually live near an area with a fair amount of natural stone so im considering testing a couple of these methods to see if i can get it to work fairly easily large scale
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posted on Feb, 23 2012 @ 02:49 PM
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'there is no way the pyramids were build by us they are too huge the blocks for our machines today. the giants build them' Eh?

Blocks those size could easily be picked up and moved with a small modern day crane. Cranes have been known for thousands of years. This was all done by mankind. Manpower and intelligent humans. Without requiring help from giants, aliens, pixies, fairies, lasers, magic, god or any other invisible magic being...



posted on Feb, 23 2012 @ 02:53 PM
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agreed anon77
probably better to not waste the effort next time though
blatant sillyness (if they can help it or not)
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posted on Feb, 23 2012 @ 02:55 PM
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Thank you for you sharing of experiences.

My wife and I plan on going to Peru for a few months when we retire to take it all in and see for ourselves etc.

I can't wait!!!

maybe do up a thread with a ton of pics/videos etc!!



posted on Feb, 23 2012 @ 02:55 PM
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You can't I don't think. Just edit it and delete the text out.



posted on Feb, 23 2012 @ 02:57 PM
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No I must have been looking at the wrong one, that is interesting though. I just wonder what temperature and quantity of water you would need to work on stones, and if you can get away with just scoring the stone or if you would have to drill into it a little bit first like you do with wedge/feather to get the water in a little deeper.

just one more thing to add to the tests one of these days lol.



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posted on Feb, 23 2012 @ 03:02 PM
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I wonder just how many times mankind (?)
has fallen?
And we get to see one collapse now.
and this one will leave so little that can last thousands of years.




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