posted on Oct, 16 2012 @ 09:24 PM
Originally posted by JoshNorton
My take is that all symbols, including words, only have meaning to you. I mean, you can go back to Plato or Aristotle (I forget which...) and the idea
of ideal or archetypal representations of words.... I say tree, you picture a tree in your head. It will be a different tree than the one I picture in
my head. There is no one idealized tree that is in everyone's head.
Morrison goes on for a bit in Pop Magick about corporate logos being sigils, but I disagree. A sigil has power to me when I give it power. If someone
else makes a sigil, I can't power their sigil because I don't know their will—and I don't know what personal meaning THEY have ascribed to the
symbol. If their sigil is meaningless to me, then there's no way my will can strengthen it for their purposes.
Does that make any sense?
I'm not certain I agree with you on this point. It seems to me like your idea is based on a notion of intention. If I were to make some kind of
amulet with a sigil on it, for example, you could not 'strengthen it for my purposes' as you say, because you don't know my intention. (Please do
correct me if I'm misinterpreting this)
The point where we would come into agreement is that I believe it would possibly have more
power / effect if you understood and shared my
However, some see focus
and / or attention of any sort as a kind of energy generating or directing exercise. Energy follows focus. Crowley, for
example, claimed that it was not necessary for a participant in sex magick to know the purpose of the ritual, or even to know they are
participating in such!
Or an analogy: The utility company does not know, specifically, what you are using electricity for in your home. They don't need to know this in
order to send you power. As long as you have the proper equipment to receive the power they are sending, you can use this power for anything you want.
You are the one who chooses the outcome, independent of their will (aside from their will to give you attention / focus/ energy).
Symbols act as a focal point regardless of whether someone understands their meaning. Sometimes even more so, as the mysterious and mis-understood
can be alluring and emotionally provocative.
I suppose in my (admittedly imperfect) utilities analogy, the symbol is acting like a "receiver."