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Originally posted by JibbyJedi
These kids don't know any better. That's why they target teenagers, get them young and impressionable, break them down mentally then rebuild them into reactionary cold blooded killers who follow orders without question.
Who do you blame when a 5 yr old shoots his baby sister with his dad's gun? The child? These kids are coming back traumatized and basically crazy. When the military has no more use for them, they get a nice handshake, a salute, and a kick to the curb.
edit on 21-2-2012 by JibbyJedi because: tyop
Originally posted by usmc0311
Geez thought it would take at least a few posts for the bashing to begin. Go ahead have at it. I've stated my case and opinions enough on here to just not care when being wrongfully attacked. Their will be no more replies on that subject from me in this thread. So please feel free to call me and my brothers murdering, raping, pilageing pshycopaths with a lust for blood and babies. I choose not to judge people by the group but rather by the individual and his or her actions. But if you would like to make narrowminded judgements that is your right to do so.
Also, this thread was aimed more at the veterans and those who actually understand the meaning of the poem. So if you don't care then why read it? If you are looking for an argument you won't find it here.
Originally posted by Irish614
"God has a hard-on for Marines because we kill everything we see! He plays His games, we play ours! To show our appreciation for so much power, we keep Heaven packed with fresh souls! God was here before the Marine Corps! So you can give your heart to Jesus, but your ass belongs to the Corps! "- Full Metal Jacket
For those bashing on people who have the courage/balls enough to serve, remember who gives you that freedom to do so.
TOMMY by Rudyard Kipling (1865-1936)
I went into a public-'ouse to get a pint o' beer, The publican 'e up an' sez, "We serve no red-coats here." The girls be'ind the bar they laughed an' giggled fit to die, I outs into the street again an' to myself sez I: O it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "Tommy, go away"; But it's "Thank you, Mister Atkins", when the band begins to play, The band begins to play, my boys, the band begins to play, O it's "Thank you, Mister Atkins", when the band begins to play.
I went into a theatre as sober as could be, They gave a drunk civilian room, but 'adn't none for me; They sent me to the gallery or round the music-'alls, But when it comes to fightin', Lord! they'll shove me in the stalls! For it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "Tommy, wait outside"; But it's "Special train for Atkins" when the trooper's on the tide, The troopship's on the tide, my boys, the troopship's on the tide, O it's "Special train for Atkins" when the trooper's on the tide.
Yes, makin' mock o' uniforms that guard you while you sleep Is cheaper than them uniforms, an' they're starvation cheap; An' hustlin' drunken soldiers when they're goin' large a bit Is five times better business than paradin' in full kit. Then it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "Tommy, 'ow's yer soul?" But it's "Thin red line of 'eroes" when the drums begin to roll, The drums begin to roll, my boys, the drums begin to roll, O it's "Thin red line of 'eroes" when the drums begin to roll.
We aren't no thin red 'eroes, nor we aren't no blackguards too, But single men in barricks, most remarkable like you; An' if sometimes our conduck isn't all your fancy paints, Why, single men in barricks don't grow into plaster saints; While it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "Tommy, fall be'ind", But it's "Please to walk in front, sir", when there's trouble in the wind, There's trouble in the wind, my boys, there's trouble in the wind, O it's "Please to walk in front, sir", when there's trouble in the wind.
You talk o' better food for us, an' schools, an' fires, an' all: We'll wait for extry rations if you treat us rational. Don't mess about the cook-room slops, but prove it to our face The Widow's Uniform is not the soldier-man's disgrace. For it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "Chuck him out, the brute!" But it's "Saviour of 'is country" when the guns begin to shoot; An' it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' anything you please; An' Tommy ain't a bloomin' fool -- you bet that Tommy sees!
Originally posted by Acid_Burn2009
2 tours in Iraq with the Corps.
Never once have I killed an innocent person. I have protected innocent Iraqi civilians (men, women and children) from those that wished harm to both my fellow Marines and the innocent civilians
Unless you have "been there, done that, got the t-shirt" perhaps you should be quiet on the subject. All you know is what you see on TV and read on the internet...nothing more.
Does TV show us protecting innocents? No
Does TV show Marines handing out school supplies, food and toys to children? Hell no...
Why? because good news does not sell. Everyone wants the misery and the dirt. Everyone wants to hear that an innocent Iraqi was harmed or killed so you and all your military hating kin can further demonize all of us.
You sit on your computer and watch your TV and never leave your home until you need more twinkies. You have a pretty big set to call me and any other service member a coward.
I would love for you to call me a coward face to face (or any other Marine for that matter)
I can guarantee the outcome will not be pleasant for you.edit on 22-2-2012 by Acid_Burn2009 because: (no reason given)