Do nice guys really finish last?, page 3


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reply posted on 23-2-2012 @ 12:46 PM by Taupin Desciple
I've been a fly on this wall for awhile now and I have to admit that it's very entertaining. So far, Already Gone has my vote for the best response with Gazrok coming in at a close second.

To answer you question though OP, no, nice guys don't finish last. They don't get the scraps, left-overs, sloppy seconds, whatever....either. What they get are the nice girls.

Birds of a feather my friend, always keep that in mind. Also remember that from what you posted I get the feeling that you're better than getting a "bad girl" who has changed for the good. Why? Because I get the feeling that you're not going to "settle" for being a bad boy just so you can get some. Even if you are a good guy, some of us go down that road because we get lonely. It doesn't make us bad, it just means that we made some bad decisions in our lives. Trust me, I've known bad girls and they tend to have baggage that we don't deserve. If you don't believe me listen to this song and tell me if it scares you or not:



You're better than that.( It is a good sountrack for bedtime though ) Besides, the girls who like the bad boy type tend to stay on that track for quite a few years.There are some though, who like some good guys, just make bad decisions. It doesn't necessarily make them bad girls though.



You'll just have to trust me when I tell you that there are still girls/women out there who have morals, a good agenda to fill, and the inner strength it takes to stick to them. If you stick to your guns like they do, you'll attract them. Sometimes even guys like me, who have made bad chioices, can still attract women like that. Only God know how. We're lucky I guess.

As Already Gone said, some women are a mother in the kitchen, a lady in public and a whore in bed.

And THAT my friend is the type of woman that good guys like us deserve.

So no....we DON'T finish last....we finish with the best.




reply posted on 23-2-2012 @ 06:01 PM by Taupin Desciple
Originally posted by mossme89
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post by Taupin Desciple



Wow, great response! Thanks!


No problem.

I'm not Dr. Phil but I play one on the internet.





reply posted on 24-2-2012 @ 04:07 AM by Stop-loss!
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I have been single all my life so I feel your pain. I am always nice to women even if they act immature or say mean things to me but still I move forward. If I ever get a girl friend by just being me, a nice guy then i'll let y'all know if its true or not.


reply posted on 27-2-2012 @ 06:39 PM by adigregorio
I guess we are going to move to this thread now?

I stick by my points made in
THIS thread.

People go after what they want, or in this case what they find attractive. So, if nice = "unattractive to a prospect" (Which it does in most, if not all, cases) then yes, a "nice guy" will always finish last. At least until they find someone that is attracted to them.

And, like I kept asking in that other thread. Why would you want to date someone who was not interested in you? (By complaining about how you are "finishing last" is exactly what you are doing.) If a person doesn't like ya, time to move on to the next one.

If they all refuse to date you, then something tells me ya ain't so nice.


reply posted on 27-2-2012 @ 08:18 PM by InvisibleAlbatross
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Your story has proven the silly adage untrue actually. It took you some time, but you found someone who likes you for you.

OP, no, nice guys do not always finish last. At your young age, you may strike out more often than you hit homers (sorry), but keep being yourself and you will find the right woman. I am as anti-alpha male as you can get, I am the perpetual nice guy, always helping others. This makes me happy and sure it has made some women see me as a pushover and leave. So what? If that is what they are like, I would not have been happy long-term with them anyway. I have been dating my girlfriend for five years now and I got her by being the nice guy. I never tried to get into her pants (before dating ) and I always treated her with the utmost respect. She saw the type of person I am and that is what she wanted and continues to want. Now, we are both in our early 30s, so I have worked for some time to find her (don't worry, you probably won't have to wait so long), but the years of dating and screwing up were well worth it.

ETA: Being unable to break out of the "friend zone" is nonsense too. My current and last GF were both great friends before we dated and it made our relationships so much better.
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reply posted on 2-3-2012 @ 01:01 AM by korathin
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3 Simple Law's to follow to avoid falling into the nice guy trap:

I) The Golden Rule: Do onto others as you would have done to yourself.

-Reserve this one for people you just met.

II) The Law of Mutuality: Do onto others as they do onto you.

- After you establish a rapport with someone, treat them as they treat you.

III) The Law of Morality

- If abiding by the Law of Mutuality goes against your conscience, then avoid the person all together.







Following these simple Law's will keep others from taking advantage of you, and if you follow ALL THREE, it will reduce the risk of hurting yourself or hurting others.


reply posted on 6-3-2012 @ 10:40 PM by Inesophet
Originally posted by mossme89
Originally posted by Gwampo
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and yes, nice guys finish last. Start working out, it will change your body and your mind.
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I do work out by running. So what should I do? Treat women like crap? How do I do that?


You need to be comfortable with yourself. If you think that you are too weak to poor to [insert thing] then try to learn to live with it.

If a person cannot accept some things of you dont change for her. Skip to the next one. Its all trial and error. Try to archieve harmony over everything else. If you can make a person feel nice loved and safe without compromising on who or what you are then you sir got a person that could have longterm potential.



reply posted on 14-3-2012 @ 05:38 AM by doodles40
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Haha bro that was my exact situation! Like down to every little detail. My advice? Go for older chicks! Seriously haha it works and girls do grow out of the bad boy stage. And by older i mean a chick in their mid 20's if you are 18. But yeah girls get to a point where they get sick of being treated like # and that those type of dudes are just immature.

But yea honestly dude they love it. Only thing is do you look 18? I got away with it because I looked older

But on a more mature note I know you probably get told this a lot but it's the nice guys that end up getting married to the good girls and the jerks grow old and lonely. And don't try changeing yourself man just be yourself and youl attract the right people but just be confident in how you are
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reply posted on 15-3-2012 @ 12:58 PM by HappyBunny
Originally posted by doodles40
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post by mossme89



Haha bro that was my exact situation! Like down to every little detail. My advice? Go for older chicks! Seriously haha it works and girls do grow out of the bad boy stage. And by older i mean a chick in their mid 20's if you are 18. But yeah girls get to a point where they get sick of being treated like # and that those type of dudes are just immature.

But yea honestly dude they love it. Only thing is do you look 18? I got away with it because I looked older

But on a more mature note I know you probably get told this a lot but it's the nice guys that end up getting married to the good girls and the jerks grow old and lonely. And don't try changeing yourself man just be yourself and youl attract the right people but just be confident in how you are
edit on 14-3-2012 by doodles40 because: (no reason given)


There's a downside to that. When we're 25, we want grown men, not little boys. Our minds have turned towards marriage and children. The only thing an 18 year old is good for is sex. They have nothing else to offer you--no education, no job, no maturity and their mothers are still cleaning their rooms. No grown woman wants that.

Sorry, but there it is.


reply posted on 15-3-2012 @ 04:08 PM by doodles40
reply to post by HappyBunny



Oh yeah that's kinda what I was meaning for fun that's why I said more serious stuff in the second part

Depends though maybe this guy is mature for his age and the girls his age are immature? but yeah I get where you're coming from I guess it depends on the older girl aswell though
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