posted on Feb, 28 2012 @ 11:16 AM
Your 1st post in the thread.
Originally posted by poet1b
That anyone buys into this propaganda is pathetic.
Yeah, all those lazy school kids who have savings accounts aren't paying their fair share of taxes.
The top 1% should be paying all of the income tax. Income tax was only created for the wealthy, and not for the rest, because it is only the wealthy
that get back anything from the fed gov.
Unless you own a factory in China, or any income you get from stocks you own from corporations manufacturing in China (profiting on slave labor and
child labor like any of you got a moral leg to stand on) you shouldn't be paying income taxes.
The PTB have done a great job of dumbing down the masses.
Then you said this
If a six year old child has a savings account, they are counted as income earners.
That is how the con works.
Don't buy into the propaganda.
The ops title ignore the major factor that every school kid with a bank account is counted as an income earner, and so are retired people. Those
people make up the vast majority of people paying no income tax.
Then I asked
Can you substantiate this pile of your propaganda?
Will you admit you have been suckered by this propaganda when I do?
Know anyone with kids who have savings accounts? If you do, ask them if those kids are reported as income earners and receive tax information from
those banks, and you will find out that they are included as federal income earners.
Look up the percentage of the population that is of school age or younger, and the percentage who are retired, and you will find the proof, and the
truth. Last I checked that is close to 50% of the population.
Then ask yourself what kind of fool pushes to make kids pay income taxes.
Do you remenber saying this
Its lazy when you refuse to do your own research and verify if what someone is saying is right. You can check the figures yourself, and f I am wrong
prove me wrong, instead of demanding that I provide you information easy to find.
I did ask myself what kind of fool thinks that anyone is is pushing to make kids pay income taxes or are included in the figures.
You go on
The banks report the income of everyone who has an account, and that makes them income earners. It has nothing to do with filing by an individual.
False. To be included in these statistics based on returns a return must be filed. LOOK
Remember top 10% is based on AGI. To have AGI you must file a return.
Are they bogus too?
From the Kiplingers link
The latest numbers from the IRS -- based on 2009 tax returns -- show what it takes to be among the top 1% of income earners: adjusted gross income
of $343,927 or more. The 1.4 million Americans with this elite status reported 16.9% of all the country's taxable income.
Our income and tax-burden breakdowns come from information reported on 2009 individual income tax returns. Income categories are based on adjusted
And from the Tax Foundation, more of the same
The Tax Foundation
The IRS data below include all of the 137.98 million tax returns filed in 2009 that had a positive AGI, not just the returns from people who
earned enough to owe taxes. These figures exclude those tax returns filing a return merely to receive a stimulus check.
Notice the AGI? Adjusted Gross Income is a tax return figure.
Including all tax returns that had a positive AGI, taxpayers with an AGI of $159,643 or more in 2009 constituted the nation's top 5 percent of
income earners. To break into the top 1 percent, a tax return had to have an AGI of $343,947 or more, which was 10 percent lower than the 2008
threshold of $380,354. The income threshold to break into the top 0.1 percent also fell dramatically from 2008 to 2009, from about $1.8 million in
2008 to $1.4 million in 2009.
Do you honestly maintain that you have read what I presented and hold to your original assertion? It's impossible to read with comprehension my
evidence and agree with you. If you're going to label something as propaganda it's best to know what you're talking about. Kids have savings
accounts, good one.
And as for this
Oh, and I did not ignore the sources, I read them, evaluated them, and proved how they are meaningless propaganda.
For some reason the word integrity comes to mind.