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Colonel Fletcher Prouty Discusses Secret U.S. Air Force UFO Office at the Pentagon

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posted on Feb, 21 2012 @ 12:28 PM
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There's some interesting testimony at the video link below from Col. L Fletcher Prouty who commanded an air squadron based in Tokyo in the 1950's - it states in the video that he was one of the five founders of the NORAD Defense Network and there's a Wiki page here listing some of his military background including his work as Chief of Special Operations for the Joint Chiefs of Staff.

In the interview clip he mentions a top secret memorandum delivered from the headquarters of the U.S. Air Force ordering him to inform his aircrews that if they ever they encountered a UFO, they would have to give sworn depositions to their commander who then had to mail them to a specific office in the Pentagon.

He also reccounts how one day, one of his crews on a flight from Honoluu to Tokyo with sixty passengers aboard witnessed an unknown object which flew beside their aircraft for over an hour - as their commander, Col. Prouty had to then set aside twelve rooms with twelve different interrogators to interview the air crew, he packaged all the sworn witness statements off to U.S. headquarters but never heard another word about it again.


Video Link -see 18:00

Extremely Interesting Old UFO Documentary


He also describes the Honoluu/Tokyo incident in more detail below:



UFO SIGHTINGS: ON THE RECORD From an article October 1983






Something is out there! There have been so many sightings of unidentified flying objects (UFO's) by reputable witnesses, that the fact cannot be denied. And obviously, the Air Force agrees; Years ago, they established an office charged with the collection of data on UFOs.

Officials as well placed as Senator Barry Goldwater - a major general in the Air Force Reserve - have demanded this information and they've always been turned down. Today, although there is a growing awareness of valid sightings, information on UFOs is even more secretly hidden than ever before. Let's consider one undeniable case. An experienced Military Transport Service aircrew and many passengers on a long overwater flight from Hawaii to Tokyo, clearly saw a UFO. The year was 1954.

They had left Midway Island shortly after sundown, climbed to 8,000 feet, and set the aircraft on a course for Tokyo. It was a clear night. Even in the dark they could see low clouds hanging over the warm Pacific.

Sometime after midnight, the copilot noticed an object - or at least a source of light from some definitive form - on the right side of the plane, moving along with them at about the same altitude, a little faster than they were.

As he glanced outside again, he saw this large object, not quite as large as their aircraft, had moved closer and slightly ahead. The luminescence from this object resembled the light from a fluorescent lamp with some areas of intense light emanating from a dimmer, but clearly defined, main body.

Although this craft had moved a little closer, there were no other distinguishing features other than this pattern of light. The copilot called to the flight engineer and showed him what he had been watching. They pointed it out to the pilot, who had no trouble seeing it from his side of the plane. All three watched for some time, and all agreed they were seeing the same pattern: a large airship and a source of light. They called other crew members to see it, and at about that same time, one of the flight stewards came forward to report that many passengers were watching this same thing, near them and "off the right wing."

This object had one distinct characteristic that set it off from any known aircraft and from normal flight: It would dart ahead of them, soar high above them very quickly, and then dive below them - effortlessly.

These nine or ten experienced aircrewmen were convinced, beyond any doubt, that what they were watching was a UFO. They made an initial report to their commanding officer; and later, after a night's rest, they returned to make out individual, formal statements. Their formal reports were then forwarded, to Air Force Headquarters, in Washington.


The reason I've chosen to cite this factual UFO case from 1954 is because I was that commanding officer. I have heard nothing more about that incident since that day. However, I have heard about UFOs flying along beside the world's fastest aircraft, the Spyplane (SR-71), and I have heard that the Air Force has two "bodies" or extraterrestrial objects in storage on one of its bases. Most UFO stories contain elements I cannot believe; this case has been my only direct contact with an actual responsible sighting. I knew my crewmen well and believed their individual stories. I have never doubted that. Those men were too experienced to have mistaken other aircraft: weather phenomena: aurora borealis; St. Elmo's fire; shooting stars; and all other strange, but natural wonders of the world of the airman. That object over the Pacific that night in 1954 was a UFO.


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Although this is a UFO thread, I think it's fair to say Colonel Prouty was quite an outspoken and controversial chap in his later years, particularly when it came to the JFK assasination - Quaneeri has authored a thread about him here and there are more links below:

Commentary

Obituary

Realtvufos




posted on Feb, 21 2012 @ 12:43 PM
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More evidence of high quality.
S&F.



posted on Feb, 21 2012 @ 01:40 PM
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Really enjoyed the old footage and documentary. And although it was dated it was still interesting and relative. I have often thought that if the government really didn't believe in extraterrestrial UFOs than why investigate them? Seems like a monumental waste of time. But to possibly rationalize this I have considered that maybe these secret USAF offices tracking UFOs was to keep track of top secret advanced aircraft sightings. Perhaps they wanted an organized method to track how many times their billion dollar black projects had been sighted by ordinary citizens. Just a thought...

Great thread!



posted on Feb, 21 2012 @ 10:14 PM
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Of course the government want's to know about and study UFO sightings because if some country or person were to invent a powerful flying device that can sneak in and out of airspace undetected, the government will want to know who did it and how it was done. Don't forget UFO stands for Unidentified Flying Objects.



posted on Feb, 22 2012 @ 12:15 AM
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Very interesting stuff mate and Colonel Fletcher Prouty is definitely a very strong witness.


Documentary was good also, haven't seen the interviews with those 2 witnesses at Rendlesham forest before and nor was I aware of the fact that some of the team fled whilst approaching "the lights", intriguing indeed



posted on Feb, 22 2012 @ 12:21 AM
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I'm on an IPad...any link for such a device?



posted on Feb, 22 2012 @ 01:16 AM
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UFO doesn't mean spaceship.

The "U" means unidentified... as in country of origin. Are these German aircraft? Russian? Chinese? British? Any aircraft not identified as part of any country's Air Force is classified as a UFO. So anyone saying the DoD/FBI/etc. has a UFO division isn't lying... but that doesn't prove the existence of aliens.



posted on Feb, 22 2012 @ 01:19 AM
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Originally posted by DaTroof
UFO doesn't mean spaceship.

The "U" means unidentified... as in country of origin. Are these German aircraft? Russian? Chinese? British? Any aircraft not identified as part of any country's Air Force is classified as a UFO. So anyone saying the DoD/FBI/etc. has a UFO division isn't lying... but that doesn't prove the existence of aliens.


Brilliant. All that's missing from you is "move along, nothing to see here".



posted on Feb, 22 2012 @ 01:49 AM
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This is some neat stuff! I had heard of this man before but I didn't realize he was such a player in the intelligence game. Yet more credible evidence of the military and the government having all the answers we want and their willingness to go out of their way to hide the truth from us. For me, it's no longer even a question. We have been visited, the government knows that we aren't alone on Earth, or in the universe, and they chose to keep the public in the dark.

Good thread Karl, thanks for puting this up! You have even triggered the obligatory S and F! Something I don't usually bother with

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posted on Feb, 22 2012 @ 02:57 AM
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Everybody wants more proof.

I guess they're waiting for wolf blitzer to announce it on tv to make it real.

Ignoring serious testimony from high ranking military officials, pilots and the tens of thousands of everyday ordinary folks going about their business before they were interrupted by the unbelievable.


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posted on Feb, 22 2012 @ 03:16 AM
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Not much time to read through the link yet, but your post has enough interesting info to make sure I come back and check it all out later.

S & (my first) F for you.

Thanx



posted on Feb, 22 2012 @ 03:23 AM
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Karl continues to present detailed important and hard to find information on a consistent basis and your response is the clarification of what UFO stands for?

Take the time out to research many of Karl's exceptional threads, and you will soon learn what a talented researcher he is.

Maybe next time you will save the time you spent typing a message that adds absolutely nothing to this thread and many others on this topic.



posted on Feb, 22 2012 @ 03:52 AM
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Originally posted by Zcustosmorum
Very interesting stuff mate


Yes it is (as is usally the case with Karl's threads), but:


Originally posted by Zcustosmorum
and Colonel Fletcher Prouty is definitely a very strong witness.



Er, no - not really...

Prouty's credibility is in fact, um (how can I say this politely...), very limited.

I can dig out some notes if anyone is interested but in short Prouty has real credibility problems.



posted on Feb, 22 2012 @ 03:56 AM
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Col. L Fletcher Prouty is kind of an in-office joke among a lot of the military researchers here. Every time his name comes up there's at least one set of eyes rolling in the room.



posted on Feb, 22 2012 @ 04:03 AM
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Not really surprising. I would expect Pentagon to have an office during the cold war to look at cases of "UFOs" that might have russian origin (Or nazi, if you believe in Iron Sky
), to learn what technology they had developed.
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posted on Feb, 22 2012 @ 04:05 AM
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Originally posted by DaTroof
UFO doesn't mean spaceship.

The "U" means unidentified... as in country of origin. Are these German aircraft? Russian? Chinese? British? Any aircraft not identified as part of any country's Air Force is classified as a UFO. So anyone saying the DoD/FBI/etc. has a UFO division isn't lying... but that doesn't prove the existence of aliens.


Yes, it's possible these are terrestrial vehicles but if you make that assumption you have to explain why they haven't been made public in the 50+ years since this sighting.

You also have to explain the industrial processes that led to the creation of a vehicle that violated the currently understood laws of aerodynamics at a time when most of the world were transitioning from propeller aeroplanes to jet engines.

You then have to explain how that process was kept secret from its very inception to the present day and also why its creators have chosen not to use this technology in any meaningful way.



posted on Feb, 22 2012 @ 04:08 AM
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Originally posted by SoulVisions
Col. L Fletcher Prouty is kind of an in-office joke among a lot of the military researchers here. Every time his name comes up there's at least one set of eyes rolling in the room.


And just for you...here they are...
two sets...

Fletcher prouty..or should i call you the mysterious colonel X.




posted on Feb, 22 2012 @ 04:18 AM
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Originally posted by andy1972

Originally posted by SoulVisions
Col. L Fletcher Prouty is kind of an in-office joke among a lot of the military researchers here. Every time his name comes up there's at least one set of eyes rolling in the room.


And just for you...here they are...
two sets...

Fletcher prouty..or should i call you the mysterious colonel X.



ROFL! Man in black, indeed.
Guys, this fellow caused so much trouble that it's getting to be taboo to talk about it anymore. That doofus threw so much attention around in years past that he actually grounded a couple tests due to the increase of civilian surveillance.



posted on Feb, 22 2012 @ 04:29 AM
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Looking at his wikipedia page en.wikipedia.org... it would seem you are right there are reasons to doubt his credibility, especially the reference to working for the Church of Scientology - very suspect if true.

I'd be glad to hear more about this if you don't mind digging out your notes.

This particular incident was detailed in Tim Good's book Need to Know: UFOs, the Military, and Intelligence. I don't know if there are any other independent witnesses to the incident. At the moment it seems to be just one man's story - a man with credibility 'problems'.

That said the idea that someone would spread disinfo about UFOs is interesting in itself and makes you wonder about the (possibly 'religious') agenda behind such disinfo.



posted on Feb, 22 2012 @ 04:30 AM
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Originally posted by MarrsAttax
Yes, it's possible these are terrestrial vehicles but if you make that assumption you have to explain why they haven't been made public in the 50+ years since this sighting.

I can do this for you. U2U me if you like.

You also have to explain the industrial processes that led to the creation of a vehicle that violated the currently understood laws of aerodynamics at a time when most of the world were transitioning from propeller aeroplanes to jet engines.

Can't go into specifics due to non-disclosure but the answer to this question depends on what period of time you're referring to.

You then have to explain how that process was kept secret from its very inception to the present day and also why its creators have chosen not to use this technology in any meaningful way.

This has to do with the same reasons as the first question you asked.

In response to the other poster commenting about the "secret" radar or tracking offices. They aren't secret. Not in any way. Besides, the US Air Force Instruction 10-206 is rarely an issue anymore with the pilots. Most tests are done away from current airline routes. Florida is the preferred choice. Macdill or our other base just south provide an excellent "jumping off" point.




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