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Iran says its nuclear activities non-negotiable

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posted on Feb, 21 2012 @ 02:09 PM
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Originally posted by CALGARIAN

Contradiction at it's best? The Iranian gov't are known on the word stage as master of the spoken word and deception but..
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I think you have Iran confused with Israel and america there sport. maybe you should fix that typo.




posted on Feb, 21 2012 @ 02:13 PM
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Originally posted by theBigToe
Iran cant even govern its own country with some sense of Humanity.

A country needs to prove to the international community first that it should be allowed to have nuclear weapons before it just decides to start building them. If you cant be responsible with Human lives in your own country, then why on Earth would anybody be in favor of letting you build nuclear weapons?

Nuclear energy doesnt just concern one country, it concerns the world, and therefore, the world has every right as much as that country to oppose them having nuclear weapons, and contrary to what the other guy said, the international community widely supports the United States on this issue.

The international community has done everything that it possibly can to avoid a war, so dont call us the war mongers when we stick to our word and do what we said we will if they dont comply. We own the world. Were not giving it back to the real war mongering, fascists that currently and blatantly abuse their rights in power by victimizing minorities and who in previous times, brought the world into the most catastrophic wars our species has ever had to fight.

Sorry. Its not gonna happen.


I don't understand why some people believe everything they see or hear on the boob tube.



posted on Feb, 21 2012 @ 02:16 PM
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Originally posted by Domo1
reply to post by Kyprian
 


Because we now live in a global society and the last thing we need are more nations becoming part of the nuclear family. It's everyone's business if Iran gets nukes.



if "YOU" say so it must be true. What other nations do is not this nations, nor its zionazi masters business.

Its why the world hates us now but some people will never understand that now will they.



posted on Feb, 21 2012 @ 02:17 PM
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Originally posted by tothetenthpower

The issue of our country's peaceful nuclear activities will be on the agenda of talks between Iran and the P5+1 (the five permanent UN Security Council members plus Germany)," foreign ministry spokesman Ramin Mehmanparast told reporters in a televised briefing.

"Our main demand is recognition of our right to possess the (nuclear) technology for peaceful purposes," Mehmanparast said.

"That right has been achieved, and we don't think there is a negotiable issue regarding our nuclear activities."


From the article.

That is entirely within their rights. Other nations, have no business telling them what they can and cannot do. Even if they do want a nuclear weapon.

I wish Pakistan would just man up and slip them one already so we could stop all this war mongering.

~Tenth


they probably do already have them and had them for a while now. this isn't about nukes it's about everything but nukes.



posted on Feb, 21 2012 @ 02:28 PM
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Very well..let's start by getting rid of our own nuclear facilities, then we can ask others to do likewise. There's an old saying about something being sauce for the goose is just as good for the gander.



posted on Feb, 21 2012 @ 02:29 PM
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Make NO mistakes. It is ALL ABOUT nukes that had gotten the whole world riled up, espacially its entire non-nuke arab muslim neighbours.

As long the idiotic iranian rulers continues to give its middle finger up the world's humanity concerns, delay for time, ups it warmongering rhetorics and threats, and refuses inspections, mankind HAVE every reason to treat those iranian dog rulers and their apologists as pariahs to international community, long suffering from BS nuke assurances of use for peace.

All it takes is only for one stupid tyrant to get angry, and the threat of nuke armageddon will be unleashed.

Had we mankind learnt nothing from our recent past???!!!



posted on Feb, 21 2012 @ 03:49 PM
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Originally posted by Kyprian
I'm just waiting on a reasonable explanation as to why we seem to think we have the right to tell other sovereign nations whether or not they will be allowed to have a nuclear program? Somehow I don't think the Iranian people asked for our two cents...
Neither did Australia, but it didn't stop the USA/UK in their adamant attempts to shut us down (which they did, and were successful of course).
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posted on Feb, 21 2012 @ 04:03 PM
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My two cents worth are, Russia , no, Vlad the bad is the problem here, then Israel, and maybe to some degree
the Chinese.

Vlad needs Iran and Syria to continue exist in their present form , so that he has some Middle East policy sway left.
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The slightest weakening of the kremlin right now will see the Russian people take full advantage and kick
the dictator Putin into touch. That is the real reason that Vlad the Phony President is taking a hard line here.


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posted on Feb, 21 2012 @ 04:28 PM
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Ahh the usual suspects... Ignoring facts and making it all about the "if's and buts". If anything then by those standards there should be warmongering going on against certain nations who already have nuclear weapons. Love this stuf



posted on Feb, 21 2012 @ 07:35 PM
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Iran has been a member of the IAEA since 1958..

Iran signed the Non-prolferation treaty in 1968

Wiki...The nuclear program of Iran was launched in the 1950s with the help of the United States as part of the Atoms for Peace program.[1] The participation of the United States and Western European governments in Iran's nuclear program continued until the 1979 Iranian Revolution that toppled the Shah of Iran......

Wiki..The NPT consists of a preamble and eleven articles. Although the concept of "pillars" is not expressed anywhere in the NPT, the treaty is nevertheless sometimes interpreted as a three-pillar system, with an implicit balance among them:
non-proliferation,
disarmament, and
the right to peacefully use nuclear technology.....This is what Iran has been claiming it is doing and fair enough IMO

Because of this,and most lawyers would agree that, any sanctions that are placed on Iran are deemed to be illegal and can be considered an act of war..
This gives them every right to be pissed and assume a defensive posture.You would and so would I

Israel refuses to sign the NPT and refuses to be a member of the IAEA thus have been operating illegally according to the "rule of law".
Israel has refused IAEA inspectors access Iran has not.

Since we operate in a world of legality or illegallity who is in the wrong here?

The assumption of "pre-crime", "maybes" and "what ifs" and general speculation do not exist and are irrelevant in this "rule of law" world.

IMO Israel is the one operating illegally and should be forced to comply or shut the f%^k up.



posted on Feb, 21 2012 @ 07:43 PM
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Originally posted by Xcathdra
reply to post by CALGARIAN
 


Stalling for time and nothing more... They refused IAEA inspectors access to one of the nuke sites again.


Wrong Iran did not deny the inspectors from going into any sites. The inspectors themselves said they were not going to inspect any sites they were only there to ask questions.



posted on Feb, 21 2012 @ 07:44 PM
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We own the world.


Seriously? You actually believe that the US owns the entire world? You'd better check our deficit, then. It appears that we don't own anything, we are owned by others.

Perhaps less movie watching and more study about global macroeconomics and the where the real power lies would help you achieve a more reasonable and less Hollywood-generated viewpoint.



posted on Feb, 21 2012 @ 08:54 PM
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Originally posted by Xcathdra
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Turkey is a NATO member, so if they choose to attack US forces it will be the end of Turkey...

Iran is not a powerful country nor do they have a powerful military.. The only thing they have shown is their ability to be extremely mouthy and nothing more.

The moment its confirmed Iran has a clandestine nuke program you will see China and Russia very quickly change their position.


What? You mean like China did with North Korea?

Second line.



posted on Feb, 21 2012 @ 09:32 PM
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North Korea is not a member of the NPT / IAEA, where as Iran is. There is a huge difference between the status of North Korea and Iran.

Pakistan and India both have nuclear weapons yet are not members / signatories.

Israel has nukes yet is not a member of either groups / treaties.

Other factors to consider -
Iran is the only one of those countries to specifically target / single out one nation while continually calling for its existence to end.

No matter how crazy the North Korean leader is, at least he understands what the consequences would be if a nuclear exchange took place.

The problem with Iran is they could care less about the body count. Radical religious elements in IRan have no problems sacrificing their own people on behalf of Allah.
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posted on Feb, 22 2012 @ 01:28 PM
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Originally posted by FissionSurplus
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We own the world.


Seriously? You actually believe that the US owns the entire world? You'd better check our deficit, then. It appears that we don't own anything, we are owned by others.

Perhaps less movie watching and more study about global macroeconomics and the where the real power lies would help you achieve a more reasonable and less Hollywood-generated viewpoint.


If you think the U.S. government and the military power at its disposal isnt a good indication that it owns the world then you are completely ignorant. If you would look at what kind of Naval power is at a countries disposal, you would know who controls the world. The U.S. can invade, can annex, and can bring ruin to any country on Earth. No country on Earth can do that to the United States. It is not negotiable. The U.S. Navy/Air force completely overshadows every countries Navy combined. China and Russia have some really cool techniques and counter-measures against a lot of the U.S. might, but again, no country on Earth comes close to the United States.

And money doesnt mean anything. Who can steal the worlds energy sources and defend that military action until victory (which fuels the war machine)? Oh thats right, the United States of America.



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