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Cop Tazers Handcuffed Women In The Back. She Is Now Braindead.

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posted on Feb, 21 2012 @ 09:45 PM
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reply to post by jhn7537
 

Here is what I am talking about:
What was she Guilty of in this case?

You are saying she deserved what she got.




posted on Feb, 21 2012 @ 09:45 PM
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Originally posted by Timely
reply to post by usmc0311
 


Obviously the "hero" in this vid is too fat to give chase.

He should have been in a desk job whilst undergoing a weight loss fitness regime.

The offender was handcuffed and should have easily been chased down ( even tackled to the ground ) by a fit policeman.

Not fit for duty. Standards must be raised. To serve and PROTECT!



She could have been tackled to the ground and the same thing could have happened. You run the risk if you try to flee, its all on her.



posted on Feb, 21 2012 @ 09:45 PM
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Originally posted by butcherguy
reply to post by jhn7537
 

Here is what I am talking about:
What was she Guilty of in this case?

You are saying she deserved what she got.


she was guilty of running away from the police, duh.



posted on Feb, 21 2012 @ 09:48 PM
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This low life chick was
high on Oxycontin, and coc aine.
She proceeded in her intoxicated
stupor driving, while driving, she
crashed into 2 different vehicles
at two different times. She did not
think about the well being of the
people she ran into high on dope..
These vehicles she hit had mothers,
fathers, daughters, sons, someone
somebody loved. That she could of killed
by her carelessness..

She already had 1 felony for grand theft auto..
Add these two felony hit and runs that is her 3rd strike
FL. is a 3 strike felon state.
Career Criminal status...

This moron gets the darwyn award,
where did she actually think she was
going to get? This was not her first rodeo,
she knows when you run your asking for
trouble.. She mucked up. She was in the wrong
the cop should of shot her. If this chick would of
hit my wife and kid's and hurt or killed them THEN
I WOULD be in prison for messing this jobber up.
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posted on Feb, 21 2012 @ 09:48 PM
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Originally posted by BohemianBrim

Originally posted by butcherguy
reply to post by jhn7537
 

Here is what I am talking about:
What was she Guilty of in this case?

You are saying she deserved what she got.


she was guilty of running away from the police, duh.
In what court was she judged to be guilty of this alleged crime?

Duh?


PS: Guilt comes after a trial.

edit on 21-2-2012 by butcherguy because: (no reason given)



posted on Feb, 21 2012 @ 09:49 PM
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It really doens't matter what justification the police had. How well he handled it. Or even if the woman put 3 people in critical condition for her hit and run accidents earlier in the day, while drugged up. The "cop haters" will find fault with it. Because to them, cops are not necessary at all. They are an evil syndicate that only arrest people to take away their rights and harass them. Good stories about police? They don't matter. Only the stories of brutality, or even in cases like this, a stupid, drugged up girl running while cuffed, get attention.

I think most unbiased individuals realize that there are bad cops (just like there are bad teachers, priests, bakers, husbands and wives, politicians and even that nice granny across the road who bakes up apple pies), also know there are very good cops, and appreciate what they do. As they say, haters are going to hate. They have already made up their minds, the circumstances really don't matter to them. In EVERY case, if there is an incident involving a police officer and a civilian, if the civilian is hurt in any way, the cop is at fault. Cops are all "pigs." I personally feel badly for the majority of police who, just like that teacher, priest, baker, polititian, etc., are just trying to do their jobs, and have to put up with this obvious and hateful bias against them.

I still think fat cops are a bit of a disgrace - they can't possibly do their jobs fully to their ability if they are gasping for breath when they run. Just like the military, there should be guidelines, PT tests, etc. And if you fail, or are overweight for your size, you are desked until you fix it. But being fat doesn't make you evil or stupid. The hate towards cops just because they are fat disturbs me as well. This entire country is pathetically obese. I imagine a good # of these haters could use a serious diet themselves.



posted on Feb, 21 2012 @ 09:50 PM
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Originally posted by butcherguy

Originally posted by BohemianBrim

Originally posted by butcherguy
reply to post by jhn7537
 

Here is what I am talking about:
What was she Guilty of in this case?

You are saying she deserved what she got.


she was guilty of running away from the police, duh.
In what court was she judged to be guilty of this alleged crime?

Duh?




She was handcuffed....She decided to run away.... You're right, she wasnt guilty of ANYTHING.... Cops just dont go around handcuffing people for no reason...



posted on Feb, 21 2012 @ 09:51 PM
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What the hell is your point!??! SHE WAS UNDER ARREST AND CUFFED AND SHE RAN. PERIOD. shut up.

If it was your wife or mother she plowed into in a drug induced stupor you would be jumping for joy at the sight of this video.

Moron. seriously. both you and the braindead woman
edit on 21-2-2012 by Retikx because: (no reason given)



posted on Feb, 21 2012 @ 09:53 PM
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If this injustice would have happened in Iran the officer would have had to have the same fate as the victim...Get over it folks...America is not a free republic. We must choose to defend ourselves no or never.



posted on Feb, 21 2012 @ 09:54 PM
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Self responsibility is the key here. It was her actions and choices that brought this tragic event.
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Ok, either it was a choice or it wasn't. Was she high on coc aine and oxycodone? Because if she was, then she did not make an actual choice, nor was she capable of rational behavior or "self responsibility". What she did was, she reacted to whatever real or perceived fear she felt and she ran. The officer, on the other hand had (I am assuming) no substances on board and out of the many ways he could have subdued her, chose to shoot her in the back with a taser. Who knows why? Maybe he had a long day and she was pissing him off, and then she ran and he decided to drop her rather than chase her. Maybe he really was too fat to run after her or to simply lunge forward and grab the back of her shirt. Maybe he has used his taser a lot in the past, and didn't realize the jolt would hit a 100lb woman hard enough to spin her around and crack her skull on the concrete.

He also made choices and performed actions. And as a law enforcement officer he had plenty of "self responsibility", did he not? He chose to taser a bound and unarmed woman in the back instead of just grabbing her. He chose to ignore his own department's policy on the use of tasers on people who are handcuffed.

Let's assume that the drugs in her system were only trace amounts from previous imbibement and she wasn't really high. She was still unarmed, handcuffed and almost a third of this man's size. And we don't even know why she ran in the first place. He used excessive force on her, and for no good reason. Allegedly, he did this rather than tackling her because he allegedly had enough time to think about how the force of his weight might have injured her instead. Never mind the fact that if he had tackled her instead of tasered her, she would have still had muscle control and she would have fallen forward instead of spinning around bonelessly and cracking her head like an egg on the concrete. She would have likely been injured, but brain dead? Probably not. Point is, she would have had a chance.

So is the cop then not responsible for his choices? It would seem that he is even more so than her, because by his own department's account, she was under the influence of coc aine and narcotics at the time of the incident and I think it's pretty safe to assume that he was not. Yet he still chose the taser. Yes, it was her actions that brought about the scenario, but it was ultimately his choice that brought the tragedy. I would feel the same if she was a 200+-lb woman and he was a 100lb cop. She was still handcuffed and unarmed, while he was armed and his hands were free. It was a bad choice on his part, and I am sure he knows this and I am also sure that he won't forget it any time soon.


edit on 21-2-2012 by tigertatzen because: misspell



posted on Feb, 21 2012 @ 09:56 PM
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Originally posted by Tw0Sides
I hope all you supporters of this cop, dont ever have a family member arrested , who makes a bad Decision.
The following is my opinion as a member participating in this discussion.


you know why most people don’t have a problem with the police even when they do make a bad decision and get arrested? Because most mature people understand that its not the officers fault, they accept responsibility for their actions, and they take the punishment.

What I’m seeing now is a whole generation of people who are too immature to take any responsibility for anything. They took underwater basket weaving in college so they could spend 4 years playing WOW, and now its societies job to pay for their upkeep, food, house that they are upside down on, health care, etc… These are the same mentality of people such as those defending this woman. The reality of the situation is that its HER fault she was arrested, its HER fault that she ran from the police, its HER fault that she got tazed, and its ultimately HER fault that she cracked her head on the cement.
Accept responsibilities for YOUR actions…

it would have been pretty hard for her to bust her skull if she had been sitting on the bench in the holding cell like she should’ve been.

As an ATS Staff Member, I will not moderate in threads such as this where I have participated as a member.



posted on Feb, 21 2012 @ 09:57 PM
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Originally posted by Retikx
reply to post by butcherguy
 




What the hell is your point!??! SHE WAS UNDER ARREST AND CUFFED AND SHE RAN. PERIOD. shut up.

If it was your wife or mother she plowed into in a drug induced stupor you would be jumping for joy at the sight of this video.

Easy point, she wasn't guilty of anything, probably never will be. They have this pesky thing called justice, it is involved intricately with the Constitution. She won't go to trial, she is brain dead. If she recovers, she is more likely to go to civil court when she sued the cop, than to go to trial for any alleged crimes in the case at hand.

Do you have some evidence that she plowed into someone? Or maybe you are just making that up?



posted on Feb, 21 2012 @ 09:59 PM
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These vehicles she hit had mothers, fathers, daughters, sons, someone somebody loved. That she could of killed by her carelessness..
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You refer to her as a "lowlife". Yet you don't know her circumstances. She is also someone's daughter, someone whom people love. And she didn't kill anyone did she? No, she ran from the police and she is now effectively dead. She is also unable to tell her side of the story. Everyone is someone's father or mother or daughter or son.



posted on Feb, 21 2012 @ 10:00 PM
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This particular cop was likely a sociopath, just like the one who shot a pet cat in the head, just like the one who beat up the homeless guy, and the one who made the mentally handcap guy brain dead.

Not all cops are like this, but it's alarming just how many stories have gone public about incidents like these. Imagine how many have not.



posted on Feb, 21 2012 @ 10:01 PM
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many police are scumbags here in my small town an officer was caught masturbating to child porn right in the station during his night shift. they found it on the police stations computer
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edit on 21-2-2012 by tem88 because: didnt know if should put the scums name



posted on Feb, 21 2012 @ 10:02 PM
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Moron
You're doing great buddy!

Most don't resort to name calling. Hell, I have only used the stick out your tongue emoticon a couple of times.

Do you know what the definition of the word 'moron' is?
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posted on Feb, 21 2012 @ 10:03 PM
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Originally posted by tem88
many police are scumbags here in my small town an officer Vigard was caught masturbating to child porn right in the station during his night shift. they found it on the police stations computer

The cop supporters on this thread will blame the children.

Because they should have been home in bed.



posted on Feb, 21 2012 @ 10:04 PM
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Originally posted by butcherguy
In what court was she judged to be guilty of this alleged crime?

Duh?


PS: Guilt comes after a trial.

The following is my opinion as a member participating in this discussion.

Not always.
A police officer has the right to act when seeing a crime in progress, that includes fleeing from the police. They are allowed under law to use any amount of force, within the situations current level of the use of force matrix, to bring that situation under control. If you get hurt because of your own stupid actions, that’s not the cops fault as long as he used an amount of force that was justified under the law for the situation. You can escalate a parking ticket right on up to getting yourself shot if you are stupid enough to resist the police.

As an ATS Staff Member, I will not moderate in threads such as this where I have participated as a member.



posted on Feb, 21 2012 @ 10:05 PM
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Originally posted by defcon5

Originally posted by Tw0Sides
I hope all you supporters of this cop, dont ever have a family member arrested , who makes a bad Decision.
The following is my opinion as a member participating in this discussion.


you know why most people don’t have a problem with the police even when they do make a bad decision and get arrested? Because most mature people understand that its not the officers fault, they accept responsibility for their actions, and they take the punishment.

What I’m seeing now is a whole generation of people who are too immature to take any responsibility for anything. They took underwater basket weaving in college so they could spend 4 years playing WOW, and now its societies job to pay for their upkeep, food, house that they are upside down on, health care, etc… These are the same mentality of people such as those defending this woman. The reality of the situation is that its HER fault she was arrested, its HER fault that she ran from the police, its HER fault that she got tazed, and its ultimately HER fault that she cracked her head on the cement.
Accept responsibilities for YOUR actions…

it would have been pretty hard for her to bust her skull if she had been sitting on the bench in the holding cell like she should’ve been.

As an ATS Staff Member, I will not moderate in threads such as this where I have participated as a member.



Exactly, I wonder when people will get it.



posted on Feb, 21 2012 @ 10:05 PM
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Originally posted by v1rtu0s0
This particular cop was likely a sociopath, just like the one who shot a pet cat in the head, just like the one who beat up the homeless guy, and the one who made the mentally handcap guy brain dead.

Not all cops are like this, but it's alarming just how many stories have gone public about incidents like these. Imagine how many have not.


True. You're probably right. Also, I am definitely seeing an "US vs. THEM" mentality out there and the cops started it. They really do have a kind of 'fraternity' where they can do no wrong.

Some of you pro-cop guys are making ridiculous statements in support of an outright thug. If you could hear yourselves from the perspective of "Us", you'd be better citizens yourselves. The rate you're going though, you're not even sounding patriotic. You guys would have been of great service to the British during the Revolution.

Defend your countrymen, not each other.

And NO, it wasn't her fault just because she ran. He could have caught her, how many times has that been said on this thread?







 
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