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Was their a conspiracy to stop the working class from making more money !

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posted on Feb, 20 2012 @ 02:29 PM
Just a few years ago things seemed to be going well for the average working "Joe" or "Jane".
We were told as the baby boomers retired this was going to open up a lot more jobs, also it would be a workers market and because of that, they could get more money. Even in 2005 I remember workers getting $5000 bonus to stay 6 months with the same company, and this was fast food places! This because there were so many jobs in some areas the workers were jumping at the next best offer. One construction foreman told me it was so hard to find workers, that they had to pay more and get less production, like 4 hours in an 8 hour day. They had no choice.

Then in the fall of 2008 the bust came and everything changed so fast, by Jan. 2009 there were unprecedented layoffs going on. The roles were reversed and now workers were struggling to find work and for less pay.

It makes me wonder if this whole thing wasn't orchestrated to keep the middle class suppressed.

Planned greed, the fall would be ok with big business because government would compensate them for their losses anyways.

The common person gets doubly screwed their working conditions deprecate considerably and his government goes further into debt, which invariably means higher or sustained taxation rates.
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posted on Feb, 20 2012 @ 02:41 PM
That is kind of the point of todays society,
since the conception of a fractional reserve banking system, what money is worth has dropped over 90% (the american dollar anyways), and with that, all money becomes worth less.

That is the plan, Greed. Greed owns this world right now, its everywhere in everyone (not everyone), Its the old world orders plan, its the elites plan, thats what the plan has always been

"Control the money, control the world"

The 2008 crash was a good excuse to start paying people less money, deregulate, and etc. Most 'crashes' are faked, and many people make many dollars off the suffering of so many people. There is a conspiracy to own the world, which is essentially where its at right now, only a few countries aren't under the rule of the central fractional reserve banking system.

posted on Feb, 20 2012 @ 02:52 PM
The following is my opinion as a member participating in this discussion.

It's kind of difficult to believe that it was intentionally orchestrated. There were too many competing companies in too many different businesses. I believe that with most companies, when the crash happened, they had to brace because of the credit freeze, but they have continued to take advantage of the situation way beyond what it really was. Also after news hit about the increase in unemployment, all companies took unfair advantage of their existing personnel by holding the threat of joining the ranks of unemployed over their heads.

Sort of like anything, when there is a surplus of something the value of it goes down. ATM, companies are treating people in this fashion. Too many unemployed lets them all drive down the wages and benefits of their remaining workforce. Since no one penalizes them for that activity, they are naturally going to take advantage of the situation.

As an ATS Staff Member, I will not moderate in threads such as this where I have participated as a member.

posted on Feb, 20 2012 @ 02:55 PM
reply to post by Blue_Jay33

Wages have not gone up since the 1970's yet corporate profits have risen.

posted on Feb, 20 2012 @ 02:58 PM
Was, or is? You didnt think theyd let the largest generation in human history to retire with all the money they made did you? That markets crashing had evrything to do with taking the baby boomers retirement.. As for the middle class, well.. They know no one makes it big without hard work and a lot of risk.. And by then, you are just like them.. So conspiracy against the middle class? Of course. They want us working hard, and just content enough to complain at the bar, but not to annoyed to do anything about it.. The system is a well orchestrated play on our minds..

posted on Feb, 20 2012 @ 03:09 PM
Of course it's artificial, the whole economy is artificial. It's all orchestrated by those at the top of the capitalist pyramid scheme, namely the oil and pharmaceutical industry atm.

A necessary part of capitalism is artificial scarcity of resources. Iraq and Afghanistan is all about keeping the oil in the ground in order to keep oil prices high, for example.

Did the U.S. invade Iraq to tap its oil reserves or to make sure they stayed under the sand?

Capitalists are not hurting from this, only the rest of us, capitalists are making more money because they've sent all our 'job's' overseas, where they can exploit the workers more easily and make more profit. Profit that does not help our economy.

posted on Feb, 20 2012 @ 03:31 PM
the conspiracy was to halt the economy...and the middle class getting pink slips was a way to drain away the wealth they had accrued over the decades

bonuses for the elites in the corporate universe, subsistence living for all others

the big & mid sized corporations used their leverage to halt the money velocity just to show Congress just who pulls the strings

yes, the conspiracy linkage of connections is kind of obscure, but college alumni keep in touch is one way->>
, and the daisy-chain of Board Members throughout the whole 6,000** businesses in the USAs stock market is another method of winking-&-nodding to one another...
outside of private, secure, encrypted e-mail traffic to other co-conspiritors of the monied elite executive class

**(Dow Jones Wilshire 5000 - designed to track the performance of all publicly traded companies based in the U.S. ...
Russell 3000 Index - measures the performance of the largest 3000 U.S. companies representing approximately 98% of the investable U.S. equity market. )

now with the engineered great-recession in place... the corporate elites have a reasonable idea of just how much to turn the tap to either revive the workforce or to squeeze the public more in the plan to maximize profits in a declining market of people with the ability to pay...

only when the profits completely dry up, will there be a policy to reinvigorate the expanding credit model that drove the economy for better than 60 years

i reckon the elites figure the masses have a shelf life of 5 years ... which will be in the year 2013 before they react enmass to the forced scarcity and rationing & Austerity Programs which are fast approaching
(opposite to the gov't fanciful reports of a rebounding economy & employment)
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