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Truth Behind the Disparity Between the Rich and Poor
The Lies of the Obama Administration
This disparity between the rich and the poor is not because of Obama my friend. Although he is a player like all of them - to get distracted by the player and not see you need to change the system is a bad move.
Originally posted by Bugman82
This disparity between the rich and the poor is not because of Obama my friend. Although he is a player like all of them - to get distracted by the player and not see you need to change the system is a bad move.
This remark demands a few qualifying questions:
How much new money printing has occurred since Obama came into office?
What is the main thrust of my argument? Could my focus possibly be on the hypocrisy of Obama and his monetary policy while at the same time raving against the disparity himself?
What is false about the above statements based on monetary policy? Sure, the system has been this way for a long time but the poop is hitting the proverbial fan at this moment in history.
If I was going to break down your argument into the basic premise it would be, "Don't blame Obama because........" and there is no fishing conclusion or argument. Sorry, but this line of thinking doesn't cut it.
Originally posted by Bugman82
Monetary Policy is the chief culprit.
The Obama administration and many within the GOP agree with the current monetary policy of allowing the Federal Reserve to print money in order to prop up stocks, bond markets, and they agreed with the former bailout policy in order to save corporations, banks, and unions. Let's examine what this policy does to our society.
The printing of money by the Federal Reserve directly lowers the value of the dollar. New dollars are being infused into the system, and the United States is literally paying off debt with more debt. The reason this system works is because of how wealth is transferred. Outside indicators of a thriving economy are green stock markets and low bond yields. Our nation is forcing these good indicators by decreasing the value of the dollar. How does a decrease in the value of the dollar help these indicators?
Imagine where the money that printed is first handed out. It is first given to the banks, corporations, and bond markets so they see the benefits and thus go green (make profits and go up in value). So let's say the Federal Reserve has just printed $20 Billion to infuse into the bond market to keep bonds low in yield (This is a fairly standard number). Bond holders make bank but their increase in wealth had to come from somewhere. The bond owners' increase in wealth came from the poor and middle classes as they lost value in their wages due to the decrease in the value of the dollar. Note that food prices and energy prices are directly affected by the value of the dollar. When the dollar is low food and energy go up. Who does this affect more, the rich or the poor? Of course it affects the poor because their budget consists of mostly food and energy. So we hear and accept all this parroting from Obama about the disparity and how the GOP hates the poor, but it is in fact his own monetary policy that causes it.
This idea that we can print our way to prosperity is foolhardy in nearly every way. Right now many of us are wide eyed and angry as we see corporations and banks making record profits as the money flow that is being printed is coming directly to them while the average American citizen doesn't even recognize that they are being stolen from through the hidden tax called inflation.
In my mind anyone who supports the Obama administration and most of the GOP in the face of such horrible monetary policy is either evil or extremely ignorant.
I wonder......
Have you noticed higher food prices?
Have you noticed increased energy costs (gas and oil)?
If so you are suffering from a nearly 14% inflation tax that Obama personally signed.edit on 20-2-2012 by Bugman82 because: (no reason given)
Essentially, the Great Depression, in the monetarist view, was caused by the fall of the money supply. Friedman and Schwartz write: "From the cyclical peak in August 1929 to a cyclical trough in March 1933, the stock of money fell by over a third." The result was what Friedman calls the "Great Contraction" — a period of falling income, prices, and employment caused by the choking effects of a restricted money supply.
Originally posted by Bugman82
This disparity between the rich and the poor is not because of Obama my friend. Although he is a player like all of them - to get distracted by the player and not see you need to change the system is a bad move.
This remark demands a few qualifying questions:
How much new money printing has occurred since Obama came into office?
What is the main thrust of my argument? Could my focus possibly be on the hypocrisy of Obama and his monetary policy while at the same time raving against the disparity himself?
What is false about the above statements based on monetary policy? Sure, the system has been this way for a long time but the poop is hitting the proverbial fan at this moment in history.
If I was going to break down your argument into the basic premise it would be, "Don't blame Obama because........it has always been this way" and there is no fishing conclusion or argument that is focused on the hypocrisy of the current administration. Sorry, but this line of thinking doesn't cut it because this thread isn't focused on looking at historical policy but rather it is focused on those who are currently supporting Obama.edit on 20-2-2012 by Bugman82 because: (no reason given)
how much of that new money was destined to be created by bush?? it was bush that set the bailouts in motion...not to mention that the wars werent paid for by old money, it was borrowed money...NEW MONEY!!!
This is a theory that apparently Ben Bernanke subscribes to. Could this not be an honest and noble attempt to avoid a depression by not making the same mistakes we made in the past?