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Originally posted by andreoutlaw
I want these organizations out of the third world completely.
These people have lived for tens of thousands of years with out your condescending "aid" programs.
I want all these organizations and corporations to pack up their crap and go home.
Those charities are all scams. Every single one of them.
Originally posted by FlyersFan
Originally posted by harryhaller
No they didn't write the bible, jews (mostly) write the bible.
It was the Catholic Church who put it together. It recognized and determined the canon of the New and Old Testaments in A.D. 382 at the synod of Rome, under Pope Damasus I. This decision was ratified again at the councils of Hippo (393) and Carthage (397 and 419).
Or you can wallow in your ignorance some more.
Since I'm not ignorant on this subject ... YOU can wallow in your ignorance or get educated.
The choice is yours ... Stay indoctrinated with anti-Catholic nonsense or learn some facts.
Read - Where we got the bible: Our debt to the Catholic Church - by Henry G. Graham
And he shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time.
Originally posted by harryhaller
You can quote books i'll never read until you're blue.
Originally posted by harryhaller
You can insult me until you're blue.
Originally posted by MagnumOpus
The US Churches are and the US Political system run under the concepts of the Babylon tyranny methods that are considered Evil and making man as god.
Originally posted by FlyersFan
Originally posted by andreoutlaw
I want these organizations out of the third world completely.
So then when people die off without the aid of what the west send to help ... the malaria vaccinations, malaria tent netting, etc etc ... will you be complaining that the west does nothing to help people?
These people have lived for tens of thousands of years with out your condescending "aid" programs.
Sounds like you are kinda 'sour grapes' about them needing help.
Pride getting in the way of accepting food and medicine and clothing that is very much needed.
I want all these organizations and corporations to pack up their crap and go home.
Then you condemn people, that you claim to care about, to miserable (and preventable) deaths.
Those charities are all scams. Every single one of them.
My neighbor and his wife were part of the Peace Corps in Africa. They helped the locals to dig a much needed well. That well water actually saved lives. It improved their living. You said the West hasn't helped not a single person. I totally disagree. The facts say otherwise.
Originally posted by MagnumOpus
A few thoughts on submission and the political design of Christian Religion:
I would suggest that the real theme of Jesus has become increasingly suppressed in order to basically insert all the religion themes of Old Babylon and the laws seen on the Stone of Hamarrabi. Religion is about subversion to gain political control and that control leads back to the old Babylon type control and that religion method for tyranny. They especially support the methods of Usury to control money, gain wealth and power to dominate any countries politics.
So, what is seen is Christmas is really Nimrod's Birth Day. The issue of the Trinity is basically derived from Nimrod, Simaramis, and Tammus. They attempt to make Jesus as a god, in the same way that Nimrod tried to become god. What that causes is huge divisions, as the Islams call Jesus as a Prophet, not as God. Those going overboard in making Jesus as God get called "Infadels" (those that don't know God). And the laws of the US are based upon the Stone of Hamurrabit concepts, so the US gets called the "Great Satan" (Opposed to the real concept for God--which is what Jesus called the Pharisee).
Then as we come into the times of the Babylon Talmud, those concepts also adopted the Babylon views of religions, and they did not and would not endose the more pious values of the Essene or Jesus. Now, we have the corruption of religion where attempts are made to created Judeo-Christians, when the whole preachings on the Bible Narratives were all about how the Old Testament concepts of the intolerant warlike god of the old was replaced with the loving and benevolent God of the New Testament. Christian religion gives slight lip service to this concept, but then inserts the ideals of Babylon Religion at every turn they can manage.
At each turn the intelligence and pro-active part of man to participate in Government and getting things going toward benovolent God issues is bypassed by Pray and god will handle it for you. Or the submission to the lies as being controlled by the church political affiliation. The US Churches are and the US Political system run under the concepts of the Babylon tyranny methods that are considered Evil and making man as god. And the political Zionist's concept follow the same party line, which isn't telling the real issues of the Essene or Jesus.
Thus, the end point of the Christian religion has become the white wash of the Essene and Jesus values into those of the old Pagan tyranny methods from Nimrod's Babylon goals and Jesus painted as Nimrod playing god. And every Christian is told to be submissive to that subversion design and become controlled by the corrupted Church and never have free thought or independent thinking.
Does that addess your theme in some respects?
Thus, the bottom line then becomes that the Christian Church has been subverted from the values of the Essene and Jesus into following the pagan elements of the Babylon system of tyranny and basically we have a bunch of Christians sitting on their hands doing nothing but worpshiping of the concepts of Satan, for the largest part, and this whole politically contrived mess has the US taken over from within by evil designs invented back in pagan Babylon.
edit on 20-2-2012 by MagnumOpus because: The Church as a ground of political control and subversion
Originally posted by andreoutlaw
What I see as having taken place was that the Romans saw the Christians, who were a rebel sect who didn't fight anyone violently, and decided that this would be a good concept to incorporate into their own state religion. They of course kept all the elements of the old religion that worked, but removed the various warrior gods, and replaced them all with the image of Christ, the murdered god.
I mean, we have to ask why they even chose to integrate Christianity at all into the state system, and it seems rather obvious that this concept of non-resistance was very attractive to the ruling class.
Originally posted by FlyersFan
Originally posted by andreoutlaw
Originally posted by Domo1
Ugh dude. Write something yourself. Also, Jesus allowing himself to be tortured to death was kind of a big point. To me you sound like yet another atheist, hell bent on insulting a group of people that believe in something you have no knowledge of. It may seem cool to be an atheist, but if you're going to do it at least try to pretend you're over 15 and have some life experience.
-I'm 27, and much of this is based on personal experience with tribal people who have been destroyed by missionaries, here in Asia
Originally posted by andreoutlaw
It really is a horrible thing, this whole situation of spreading the "faith" across the whole planet, exterminating cultures and societies and sucking them into the slave system of economics. All in the name of this Jesus fellow, who couldn't even manage to keep from getting tortured to death.edit on 20-2-2012 by andreoutlaw because: formatting
-I'm 27, and much of this is based on personal experience with tribal people who have been destroyed by missionaries, here in Asia
Blah blah blah. And the crusades were carried out in Jesus's name, therefore the whole of Christianity is just a sham?
I'd like you to please recognise the difference between followers of the Bible and Jesus, and the Roman Catholic church.
Originally posted by Ittabena
And since the Council of Nicaea and the subsequent Ecumenical Councils which ultimately produced the Bible were attended by what can easily be seen as three sects of Catholicism - no Essenes, no Cathars, nor anyone else - The Bible that ALL Christians look to was of Catholic origin. The rest of the Christian religions are what Monty Python referred to in "Th Life Of Brian" as splitters. All the existent Christian religions splintered off of Catholicism. Therefore when I meet a fundamentalist Christian who insists on giving me the good news, I know that I have someone in front of me who has no idea of the history of their movement, and I ask them if they are Catholic?
"No" is always the response. To which I inquire why they are running around selling Catholic books all day. They usually look at me as if there were lobsters crawling out of my ears, but it gets them off my porch and I hurt their feelings less.