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Report: UK anti-terror plan to sweep up email, phone, online records

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posted on Feb, 20 2012 @ 02:09 AM
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Report: UK anti-terror plan to sweep up email, phone, online records


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Data on all phone calls, text messages, email traffic and online visits would be stored for a year in vast databases under a new anti-terrorism plan in Britain, The Telegraph reported Saturday on its website.
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posted on Feb, 20 2012 @ 02:09 AM
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Data on ALL phone calls,texts, emails, and online traffic? The original form of this was shot down in 2009 and has been re-worded and put into motion. If this can happen in the UK who knows who will be set up next. I can understand the desire to weed out terrorists but personally I think this is going too far. It should be, establish a reason then monitor, but hey, I'm not the one making the rules.

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posted on Feb, 20 2012 @ 02:19 AM
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This already happens in the U.S. All traffic goes through a base in Colorado. I don't remember when it started, but its been going on since at least 2006.

Oh and when I say all traffic, I mean all traffic. It's in the name of national security.

I'm not sure on how long the data is stored though.
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posted on Feb, 20 2012 @ 03:14 AM
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They already do much more than this under "Echelon", it does appear that the bigger picture is coming into plain view with everything going on in Europe,UK and the USA.




posted on Feb, 20 2012 @ 03:45 AM
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Canada is on the same path now with bill c30.

ACTA, SOPA, and all the like around the world are simultaneously being introduced....

The world wants to control of citizens. First world powers are jealous of countries that have horrible rights records, jealous of not having total control of the citizens.

The world is headed for a deep decline in privacy and freedoms. The sad part, is that it is washed down like drink in summer. Apathy at its best.



posted on Feb, 20 2012 @ 04:09 AM
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Originally posted by Agarta


If this can happen in the UK ...


Ah but they've been fluoride in our water supply for decades - we're a pretty docile bunch now (!)



posted on Feb, 20 2012 @ 04:17 AM
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It comes as no surprise that The Conservative Party would propose such legislation but it is a betrayal of all their party's ideals that The Liberal Democrats will actively support this Bill.

And it's proof positive that there is very little difference between the three major parties as it is simply a rehashing of the previous Labour Party administrations proposals that were abandoned in 2009 due to public outcry.

My guess is that over the last 2 or 3 years the UK populace has become that dumbed down and apathetic that this proposal and legislation will go through unopposed, undebated and unreported.



posted on Feb, 20 2012 @ 04:24 AM
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Why am i not suprised that i haven't heard a peep about this in the UK, i'm sick of them trying to sneak more and more monitoring legistration in. We already have CCTV absolutely everywhere, but thats not enough they need to be able to see everything we do on the net as well and build up a complete character profile on every single one of us. Next they bring in some legistration that allows them to take over our webcams. I already unplug mine when not in use as i noticed it came on without me telling it to. God, sometimes i want the SHTF just so i dont feel like i'm being watched 24/7.

Edit: Oh btw my area of the UK doesn't get fluoridated

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posted on Feb, 20 2012 @ 04:31 AM
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"If you have done nothing wrong you have nothing to fear" , "if this prevents just one terrorist attack, then surely it's worth it".

These will be the justifications from our limp wristed politicians



posted on Feb, 20 2012 @ 04:32 AM
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Sounds like the Canadian Version of the BILL C-30 expect the minor the claim is that the police would given police state powers to monitor all IP address to hunt for Child Porn


Believe me C-30 is really bad and evil when you read it.



posted on Feb, 20 2012 @ 04:35 AM
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Glad you don't get the fluoride


But now that I use PAYG for internet access and mobile phones does that mean I'll be considered subversive by the UK authorities? Or keeping my mobile switched off while I'm traveling - so that it can't be traced. PAYG sims can be disposed of and replaced quickly and cheaply - and I make a point of doing so once in a while.

And I should just add that on a tv documentary I saw a while back, my hometown - East London - was deemed to be "big brother central" for the number of CCTV cameras in use. Did we EVER get consulted on the use of these cameras? The police were quick to criticize me for wanting to install a CCTV camera to keep an eye on my motorbike - "mustn't allow the camera to infringe neighbours' privacy!!" - what about the privacy which these 'official' CCTV cameras infringes every day in this country?



posted on Feb, 20 2012 @ 04:46 AM
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www.channel4.com...

Note the point toward the bottom of the page - "1998 Newham Council introduces face recognition software in the Borough to track repeat offenders." Oh well, so long as it's only to track repeat offenders then I suppose that's fine ... (!)



posted on Feb, 20 2012 @ 04:48 AM
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Yet more of our civil liberties taken away.... soon we wont have any privacy at all!!

I can understand if they want to monitor certain people but why everyone?



posted on Feb, 20 2012 @ 04:50 AM
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Reminds me of what Zimmerman said when PGP was released - (paraphrasing) "they would say if you have nothing to hide, why use envelopes for letters, just send postcards instead"

Although it's been coming for a long time the last Labour Government really accelerated the "we know whats best for you" philosophy, and sadly a large %age of the UK population seem to agree



posted on Feb, 20 2012 @ 05:01 AM
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It's funny, I thought that one of the only benefits of having a coalition of the Libs and the Conservatives was that they may have reversed some of New Labours attack on civil liberties. But no, the same agenda is pushed and continued.

So what do people do about it? Write an angry letter? protest outside parliament? How do you make a government take notice?



posted on Feb, 20 2012 @ 05:15 AM
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So what do people do about it? Write an angry letter? protest outside parliament? How do you make a government take notice?


Very good question - I HAVE written angry letters before - in fact I got a postcard from David Cameron's staff saying "thank you for taking the time to make your views known". Oh wow! Made me feel so special ....... ahem!

Protesting? People have done that but not many people know how to do it effectively. (hold that thought, I'll come back to it in a moment)

My opinion - most if not all politicians are in the game for what they can get out of it - the concept of "public service" is dead and buried. THEREFORE effective demonstrations/campaigns are ones which (although may be about civil liberties) are ones which can genuinely threaten a politician's chance of remaining in office.

There was a book called "how to beat Sir Humphry" (I think) which dealt with one issue, opposing the building of a bypass, but looked at campaigning, fund raising, organisation - for sure, it was a comedy book but it was based in reality, and campaigners in the UK tend not to be organised, nor properly funded, nor equiped for a LONG FIGHT.

(just my opinions)



posted on Feb, 20 2012 @ 05:27 AM
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No need to keep unplugging and plugging in your webcam, just slip a small cardboard tube over it, I use the inner cardboard tube of a toilet tissue roll!



posted on Feb, 20 2012 @ 07:46 AM
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Lol, i use to just turn it so it was facing the wall but my new one has a mic built in that takes priority over other mics like the one in my headset and the mic on the cam doesn't have a light to say its on.

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To begin with it would be just for statiscal models and to gauge public awareness/opinion of the status quo which they already do now, however what worries me is what they do with that information, do they start making certain behaviours illegal because its statiscally proven to increase the likelyhood that you would become a terrorist? How long then before its like George Orwell's 1984 since you wouldn't be able to hide yourself from them.



posted on Feb, 20 2012 @ 11:56 AM
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I hate how they throw in the words "new anti-terrorism plan"..

& bish, bash, bosh..we have Big Brother of the 21st Century.




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