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Originally posted by reficul
reply to post by mrgregbusybee
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Originally posted by volafox
OP, thank you for the post and I found your link very enlightening. I suppose I am somewhat Lovecraftian in my thoughts on such things, since it was he who said that we must be deluded to think we are the first thinking entities to have walked the Earth. How many other, stranger feet than our own have tread this land and water, after all? Could we have stumbled upon a remnant that is not our own? I am also not opposed to the concept of multiple dimensional beings as well who might have found a way to skip over and wreak mayhem with our primitive minds. I am almost convinced that the pyramids may not be all they seem to be, but far more than we can conclude at the present time. The all seeing eye has had its place in history since time began for us humans, but why? What is it in our Id that tells us of this one very striking image? The evil eye, the all seeing eye, the eye of god, the eyes painted on ships in ancient Egypt and even on today's boats in Greece and the surrounding area... charms and amulets depicting the eye... the watchers from Enoch's works....its as if the past is trying to hammer something into our heads and we are running around in circles (like eyes, heh) trying to remember it. The circle itself holds far more antiquity than even the cross, which wasn't adopted as a christian symbol for many years because it was Hecate's symbol for the crossroads. What is it about this eye that unnerves us so? We see it on our money, and jump to the conclusion that it is a conspiracy. If it were, would it be so blatant since the public is far more educated than it was a mere 25 or 30 years ago? We have the internet to broaden our horizons and inform us of what things mean, what things are, and what to do about them. I am curious as to where this will all lead, to tell you the truth. Are events coming to a head?
Originally posted by volafox
You're welcome, OP. Lets keep in mind that back in the dark ages and even before, hardly anyone knew how to read. It was the church's goal to keep the masses as ignorant as possible in order to rule not only the servants and vassals, but the courts and kings as well. If a family wanted their son to learn how to read, he had to pass muster with the church first. Even then, not everybody learned. Information is vital, knowledge is power, and wisdom is freedom. After reading your response, it makes me wonder if we are at the threshold of another great leap in learning...once the scientists could study without the fear of mother church's inquisitors at their doors they made huge discoveries that lead to the industrial era. What will we learn tomorrow?
And slightly off another angle here.... since planet x was mentioned and all... cosmologists have come to find out more about dark matter... if, IF dark matter could be worked with, 1. would it not be easier to manipulate than dimensional fields and 2. could said matter prevent our rather primitive technology from finding said planet?
Originally posted by RazcoTheInsane
reply to post by mrgregbusybee
I'd like to point you in the direction of Robert Anton Wilson. He has a lot of interesting work on the Illuminati. Most of his books are written as parodies but will definitely prove to be insightful none the less. As I understand it the whole ideology of the Illuminati is at it's core liberating through knowledge, thus providing illumination (wisdom) in a once dark (ignorant) word but unfortunately, as the oldest story in the book goes, people did what people do best and became corrupt with ideas grandeur and power over the uninitiated. I mean what do you do when you know something someone else doesn't, you profit from it and if you're really far off you convince yourself that you're making the world a better place by doing so. I mean knowledge in the hands of the wrong people can be very dangerous while back at the ranch when they started to think in this direction they didn't think to look at themselves thinking "maybe we are the wrong people." Anyway, long story short, some started using the ideals and teachings of the Illuminati to, instead of illuminating the masses so that each individual can create a better world for him/herself they thought it might be a lot easier to create a better world for us and essentially force us to live in it, I mean why would we refuse? Are we stupid? They're doing all this for us... har har har... pfffft...
As for symbols. Think about it, if you see a cop you act in a way as to not stand out lest they find something wrong with your appearance and label you as a high-profile drug-dealer. Basically you behave yourself. But why? Because of the symbols, cops wear clearly identifiable symbols so you know when they're around. Now, back to the all seeing eye. On the one side I presume it was used as identification amongst members back in the "underground" also if you saw the symbol and knew the teachings you immediately thought about it and what it might mean in context, for instance if you saw it hidden in some art in some dude's house or on the ceiling of a church or wherever they hid their logos back in the day. But if you take it bake to the ancient times it was probably again a symbol of public order through fear, as in "God is watching you" so initiates or priests of the order would wear it openly as yet again to incite people towards good behaviour lest they piss off God. If you subscribe to the idea that the same symbol was used by the Egyptians to signify the eye of Ra. So if you saw the eye you'd better look busy.
In summation, I think the symbol itself went from conforming the populace through fear to uniting the few through knowledge to, again in modern times, conforming through fear as the symbol becomes again more and more widespread. So if you see it at the back of the dollar bill it cannot be liberating or illuminating, because why put it on something which unequivocally equals enslavement?
As for the pyramids, that's a whole new bowl of soup. I personally subscribe to the stargate theory where the ancients trolling around the galaxy, found a cool new place for some low-income housing and free slaves so they probably established a small foothold and created or used us or created us to use us to build their pointy crap as to probably act as some sort of antenna for their transporter rooms. That's why they're perfectly aligned with stars and naturally occurring lines of force (according to another theory if you read up on Leedskalnin and his "Coral Castle" which is very interesting btw) but in the end we probably got too much to handle and they probably tried to destroy us at some point, maybe they thought that they had succeeded so they packed up their crap and left leaving all their sexual deviants (the ones who thought it was ok to breed with the locals a.k.a the angels who fell from heaven whom God wrote off because of their weird ideas) and their symbols but no real explanations of who they where, what they wanted or if they'll ever come back... The End... For now
For more info, like I said, read up on Robert Anton Wilson, Leedskalnin, and maybe even some Wilhelm Reich, plus do some google searches along the line of "human brain as an electromagnetic antenna" or "how electromagnetic radiation influences human thoughts"