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Originally posted by autowrench
reply to post by Hawking
The Epic of Gilgamesh
Exposing Christianity
God's Mistakes
Bible Absurdities
Bible Atrocities
A List of Biblical Contradictions
How Many Has God Killed?
Yahweh is the Leviathan (Dragon/Reptilian)
Originally posted by CaptainNemo
reply to post by autowrench
This Bulls** again...
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Here is a description of the Leviathan:
Job 41:20 Out of his [Leviathan] nostrils goeth smoke, as out of a seething pot or caldron.21 His breath kindleth coals, and a flame goeth out of his mouth.
And here is description of Yahweh, the ‘God’ of the Bible:
Psalm 18:8, 2 Samuel 22:9 There went up a smoke out of his [Yahweh] nostrils, and fire out of his mouth devoured: coals were kindled by it.
Sounds like a dragon to me!
The Epic of Gilgamesh is a historical text, no BS there.
The very name of Yahweh comes from the Cannanite Dragon God Yaw
The ancient Canaanite city-state of Ugarit is of utmost importance for those who study the Old Testament. The literature of the city and the theology contained therein go a very long way in helping us to understand the meaning of various Biblical passages as well as aiding us in deciphering difficult Hebrew words. Ugarit was at its political, religious and economic height around the 12th century BCE and thus its period of greatness corresponds with the entry of Israel into Canaan.
The Enuma Elish is often compared to the creation account in Genesis. For example, the Babylonian god finished his work within the span of 6 tablets of stone and Genesis reports six days of creation.
The Leviathan of the Middle Ages was used as an image of Satan, endangering both God's creatures—by attempting to eat them—and God's creation—by threatening it with upheaval in the waters of Chaos.[6] St. Thomas Aquinas described Leviathan as the demon of envy, first in punishing the corresponding sinners. (Secunda Secundae Question 36) Leviathan became associated with, and may originally have referred to, the visual motif of the Hellmouth, a monstrous animal into whose mouth the damned disappear at the Last Judgement
In Satanism, according to the author of The Satanic Bible, Anton Szandor LaVey, Leviathan represents the element of Water and the direction of West.
-When Adam and Eve gain "knowledge of Good and Evil," God says "Now they are like Us." Now this could mean angels and other heavenly beings but they are not mentioned this early in the book. This mention of "Us" comes when only four characters are present: God, Adam, Eve and the Serpent. (The word "Us" IS capitalized also.)
-Many characters are said to live 800 or more years. Now, if you take 800 years to mean 800 months it equals 65 years and makes a whole hell of a lot more sense. Maybe 'years' was translated incorrectly.
-Adam and Eve had a kid named Seth
-God is just completely disappointed with the human beings he first creates. So he does what any logical being would do and drowns them, only to make more of the same and continue to be frustrated with them.
-The first thing Noah does after the water dries up is get hammered on wine and pass out in his tent naked, and his son Ham finds him. He tells his brothers and they cover him up without looking.
-The Tower of Babel story seems to be lacking loads of details. First they're building this tower and then God says "look, you guys are being jerks trying to build this thing so high - you're starting to act like gods, so...you got different languages now." Sounds like an oppressive dictator, something to take in to consideration.
I'll be posting follow-up threads as I continue reading. It's turning out to be pretty fascinating.
God is omnipotent
God is omniscient
"And ye shall eat the flesh of your sons, and the flesh of your daughters shall ye eat." I am now to eat my sons and daughters? And then there is Deuteronomy 21:10-14, which commands one to take wives by force, in today's world we call this rape.
God is unhappy with the wickedness of man and decides to do something about it. He kills every living thing on the face of the earth other than Noah's family and thereby makes himself the greatest mass murderer in history.
egarding the allowed wholesale massacre of entire cities and peoples, Yahweh finally get's tired after the Babel incident and divides the lands up according to their inheritance. The Lord god's or Yahweh's part was Israel, and this is where he hereforth is known as the God of Israel. Israel is the apple of his eye. The aforementioned nations are given up to idolaraty and are now enemies or allies to Israel NO exceptions. If you did not submit to the Lord's nation you were slaughtered. Understand the contexts, Israel is the nation whose patriarch had not strayed from the path of righteousness (Abraham) and it is to be the word of God. More importantly it will be the nation to birth the messiah Yeshua, so you see it was of utmost importance that the survivability of Israel be ensured. Just like modern times the arab world wants to eradicate the Jewish state...Same thing back then. God isn't nice enough for you so you call him the Devil? You don't even know the Devil hahahah... You should be on the floor thanking him for sacrificing his only son, for if he had not surely there would be reckoning for your blasphemy and transgressions.
One last thing. Worship Jesus as God, do you? Question: Jesus was a Jew, it is said, and the OT was supposedly taken directly from the Talmud. Agreed? Then why do the Hebrews accept Jesus as the Messiah? I asked this of a friend who is a Hebrew Scholar and Jewish Rabbi, who told me:
The Christian idea of a virgin birth is derived from the verse in Isaiah 7:14 describing an "alma" as giving birth. The word "alma" has always meant a young woman, but Christian theologians came centuries later and translated it as "virgin."
Translators maintain that the when God refers to "us" he means himself and only himself. His eternal self that has always existed and his infinite self that creates. The trinity is a concept of Christianity. The word trinity is not used in any Bible, it is a creation of church figures of the 16th century; it is a combination of the Holy ghost, Yeshua , and Yahweh.
God would be practically omniscient on account of being told things by beings who keep Him informed.
God is omnipotent
God is omniscient
The Old Testament is strictly monotheistic
This is reffering to The Holy Trinity. The Father, Son and Holy Spirit. The 3 persons of the God head.
Originally posted by sk0rpi0n
reply to post by RevelationGeneration
This is reffering to The Holy Trinity. The Father, Son and Holy Spirit. The 3 persons of the God head.
No it does not.
The claim that it does, is an invention by christians to support the idea of the "trinity".
The trinity idea might be plausible if the jews, who also read from the Old Testament... also believed in God being a trinity. But the fact is, they don't.
Does it matter what the Jews believe? They deny the messiah has even come yet.
Its quite obvious it does, and anyone reading the Bible with the guidance of the Holy spirit will be revealed to this truth. There are plenty of verses that speak about the trinity.
Does it matter what the Jews believe? They deny the messiah has even come yet.
Christians just cant just walk in, pick up another peoples scripture..... and then decide what its about and start reading in things like "trinity".
Really? I see plenty of places where God, his prophets and Jesus all explicitly say God is one. Is there a verse where its said "God is trinity"? Nope.
You'll need to skew several unrelated verses to draw that meaning. In other words, read things that are not there into the bible.
Originally posted by jmdewey60
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edit on 22-2-2012 by jmdewey60 because: (no reason given)
"The mind of man cannot fully understand the mystery of the Trinity. He who would try to understand the mystery fully will lose his mind. But he who would deny the Trinity will lose his soul"
Scholars clearly recognize that 1 John 5:7 is not part of the New Testament text. Yet it is still included by some fundamentalists as biblical proof for the Trinity doctrine. Even the majority of the more recent New Testament translations do not contain the above words. They are not found in Moffatt, Phillips, the Revised Standard Version, Williams, or The Living Bible