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Execution of web programmer in Iran may be imminent

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posted on Feb, 19 2012 @ 08:48 AM
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Execution of web programmer in Iran may be imminent


www.cnn.com

A computer programmer from Canada faces imminent execution in Iran for the actions of another person, which he had no control over, a human rights group says. ...
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posted on Feb, 19 2012 @ 08:48 AM
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This man needs to be released, or the man that invented the gun needs to be arrested for mass murder. USPS needs to be deemed a terrorist group for sending bombs, anthrax and drugs. Boeing needs to be deemed a terrorist group for bringing down the twin towers...etc etc.

This is not how criminal justice works, it's how government INJUSTICE works.

I feel that they're holding him and threatening to execute him just to show display their power on the international stage. It's WRONG to arrest a man who has done nothing wrong. He cannot control what his users upload, so why should he face this crime?

In retrospect though, the US is not much different. Reminds me a little of the Megaupload case...

www.cnn.com
(visit the link for the full news article)



posted on Feb, 19 2012 @ 09:23 AM
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Nothing new coming from that back water of a government.... They are also rounding up and executing bloggers / journalists simply for reporting on daily issues. Crimes against the State and God..

Do people really think Iran can be responsible for nuclear energy / weapons when even the slightest non issue is blown out of proportion?



posted on Feb, 19 2012 @ 09:28 AM
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Best wishes to the Mans family.


Maybe this should be a lesson to other computer specialist, not to "visit" countries who may question your "intent"

edit on 2/19/2012 by truthinfact because: I was slightly insensitive, its true.



posted on Feb, 19 2012 @ 09:56 AM
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Sometimes I read posts like yours and I feel like responding, but then I think to myself, surely you dont believe whats coming out of your own mouth so why should I?



posted on Feb, 19 2012 @ 10:36 AM
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Originally posted by Xcathdra
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Do people really think Iran can be responsible for nuclear energy / weapons when even the slightest non issue is blown out of proportion?


Than why is billions of arms being traded with the most extremist Wahabi cult in Saudi which chops heads of people suspected of practicing witchcraft in public? On top of that they hang the corpses off helicopters and parade it around the Al Saud kingdom warning others. These guys make Ayatollahs look like angels.

WARNING EXPLICIT IMAGES!



I have written a complete thread on this hypocrisy:

Special relationship between US and Al Saud



posted on Feb, 19 2012 @ 10:38 AM
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Originally posted by forklift

Originally posted by Xcathdra
reply to post by goldcoin
 


Do people really think Iran can be responsible for nuclear energy / weapons when even the slightest non issue is blown out of proportion?


Than why is billions of arms being traded with the most extremist Wahabi cult in Saudi which chops heads of people suspected of practicing witchcraft in public? On top of that they hang the corpses off helicopters and parade it around the Al Saud kingdom warning others. These guys make Ayatollahs look like angels.

WARNING EXPLICIT IMAGES!



I have written a complete thread on this hypocrisy:

Special relationship between US and Al Saud


This is true but we own the Saudi's right now with money. They are the biggest purchaser of U.S. weaponry in the world.



posted on Feb, 19 2012 @ 10:44 AM
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Why does that make a difference whether the US owns them or not? You see that's where the hypocrisy lies.

Why are Ayatollahs and Taliban criticized when they carry out such executions and are threatened with invasion and bombs?

Isn't one of the reason they get bombed because they don't have human rights?

Than why IS US trading billions of arms worth of weapons with Saudi which not only practices Islamic extremism itself, but funds and spreads it all around the globe?

And why is US still buying oil from Saudi? Isn't human rights and 'war on terror and extremism' more important than oil?



posted on Feb, 19 2012 @ 10:47 AM
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Originally posted by forklift
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Why does that make a difference whether the US owns them or not? You see that's where the hypocrisy lies.

Why are Ayatollahs and Taliban criticized when they carry out such executions and are threatened with invasion and bombs?

Isn't one of the reason they get bombed because they don't have human rights?

Than why IS US trading billions of arms worth of weapons with Saudi which not only practices Islamic extremism itself, but funds and spreads it all around the globe?

And why is US still buying oil from Saudi? Isn't human rights and 'war on terror and extremism' more important than oil?


Because you cant have your cake and eat it too and the Middle East is full of intricacies and the Saudis, being a major influence in the region, provide us with benefits in an alliance. This alliance we have with them is not bad, it can be used to encourage the Royal Family into revolutionizing their Human rights. It will take time, but let diplomacy do its job.



posted on Feb, 19 2012 @ 10:53 AM
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Originally posted by theBigToe

Originally posted by forklift
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Because you cant have your cake and eat it too and the Middle East is full of intricacies and the Saudis, being a major influence in the region, provide us with benefits in an alliance. This alliance we have with them is not bad, it can be used to encourage the Royal Family into revolutionizing their Human rights. It will take time, but let diplomacy do its job.


So why isn't this revolutionizing chance given to Ayatollahs and Taliban to achieve overall human rights within next 100-1000 years?

I have written a whole thread on this topic, and looking at how Saudi has been responsible for extremism all around the globe, it should be on top of the 'war on terror' list.

Why aren't Saudi women being liberated who are not even allowed to leave their houses without a male family member accompanying them?

You see Saudi is the heart of Islam, would it not make more sense to start carpet bombing the oil fields in Saudi first and install democracy there creating a shining example for the rest of the Muslim world?

If the rules are not same for everyone, than this will breed more hatred.



posted on Feb, 19 2012 @ 10:59 AM
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Originally posted by forklift

Originally posted by theBigToe

Originally posted by forklift
reply to post by theBigToe
 


Because you cant have your cake and eat it too and the Middle East is full of intricacies and the Saudis, being a major influence in the region, provide us with benefits in an alliance. This alliance we have with them is not bad, it can be used to encourage the Royal Family into revolutionizing their Human rights. It will take time, but let diplomacy do its job.


So why isn't this revolutionizing chance given to Ayatollahs and Taliban to achieve overall human rights within next 100-1000 years?

I have written a whole thread on this topic, and looking at how Saudi has been responsible for extremism all around the globe, it should be on top of the 'war on terror' list.

Why aren't Saudi women being liberated who are not even allowed to leave their houses without a male family member accompanying them?

You see Saudi is the heart of Islam, would it not make more sense to start carpet bombing the oil fields in Saudi first and install democracy there creating a shining example for the rest of the Muslim world?

If the rules are not same for everyone, than this will breed more hatred.


There have been plenty of opportunities for diplomacy with Iran and all that it has proven is that the Supreme Leader is incapable of listening to opposition, and he refuses to let down his bully like mentality. The Saudi Royal Family, while imposing similar barbaric domestic policies, arent anything alike when it comes to dealing with the international community. Because of the influence that money has on both the U.S. and Saudi governments, in combination with the mutual enemies they share, and the fact that the Saudi's foreign and domestic policys can be influenced by the international community, the alliance proves to be beneficial, now more then ever, and therefore it trumps their human rights issues because it is in our national security interests to look the other way. The Supreme Leader could clearly care less what sanctions are imposed, and how much damage it does to his people. Iran, remember, has been fighting the U.S. in a proxy war in Iraq for years (and they even provided us with the intelligence during the initial invasion of Iraq.), but that is only because Iran wanted us in Iraq too. Khamenei wanted Hussein gone so that Iran would benefit. So dont listen to all their bs about how we are in Iraq unjustly blah blah, they could care less.

The Saudis are also Sunni Muslims and they are enemies of Shia-Muslims, like the Iranians. The enemy of our enemy is our friend (for the time anyways), and the Saudi's will only be building nuclear weapons if Iran has theirs (and everybody can agree the Middle East doesnt need a nuclear arms race and cold war). We can influence what the Saudi's do, the international community can influence what they do, and the Saudi's can influence lots of affairs in the Middle East. We cant influence what the Iranians do, and therefore that is a threat. (lol)

I despise the Saudi's laws just as much as you do, but we can influence that so long as we have an alliance with them - dont give up on that.

There is nothing to work with when it comes to Iran. There is no hope for diplomacy there. They are our enemy at this point. They can have nuclear weapons it wouldnt change that, but the fact they are the most adamant in attacking us and making no secret of their desire to kill Americans, letting Khamenei have nuclear weapons is a very serious threat to Americans and Israeli's.

Doesnt matter who is guilty of what - the threat is there, period.
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posted on Feb, 19 2012 @ 12:21 PM
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Agreed across the board, whatever the Saudis are and i'll even say this whatever the Israelis are they are content to play ball and keep it in their own sphere, the human rights thing as an excuse in Iran is basically propaganda we don't care what anyone does so long as they keep it to themselves and don't try to spread it around to other necks of the wood. The person you replied to I believe said something along the lines of "The Saudis make the Ayatollahs look good" or whatever, this on some level might be true, it might even be true of some elements within Israel too, the difference is they aren't trying to export it.



posted on Feb, 19 2012 @ 12:36 PM
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Originally posted by lordnightstalker
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Agreed across the board, whatever the Saudis are and i'll even say this whatever the Israelis are they are content to play ball and keep it in their own sphere, the human rights thing as an excuse in Iran is basically propaganda we don't care what anyone does so long as they keep it to themselves and don't try to spread it around to other necks of the wood. The person you replied to I believe said something along the lines of "The Saudis make the Ayatollahs look good" or whatever, this on some level might be true, it might even be true of some elements within Israel too, the difference is they aren't trying to export it.


Thank you. I understand where he is coming from. Its very hard to stand up (for lack of a better word) for people like the Saudis that are barbaric violators of universal Human rights, but when push comes to shove, in the end the Saudis provide Western powers with advantages and that I guess is worth it to the U.S. government to exploit that alliance.

It isnt the worst thing the U.S. government has done. They covered up the whole Pacific Holocaust at the end of the second World War and Sino Japanese War, because it benefited national security interests to offer the worlds worst war criminals immunity in exchange for medical data they collected on people they swooped up off the streets of Manchuria, just because it would have fallen into Soviet hands otherwise and they were not going to let that happen.
edit on 19-2-2012 by theBigToe because: (no reason given)



posted on Feb, 19 2012 @ 01:06 PM
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This is true but we own the Saudi's right now with money. They are the biggest purchaser of U.S. weaponry in the world.


can you help me understand how your statement is true?



posted on Feb, 19 2012 @ 01:33 PM
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Originally posted by rebellender
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This is true but we own the Saudi's right now with money. They are the biggest purchaser of U.S. weaponry in the world.


can you help me understand how your statement is true?


Checkout my thread, you will see how it is true at the end:

The special relationship between US and Saudi



posted on Feb, 19 2012 @ 01:34 PM
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Originally posted by rebellender
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This is true but we own the Saudi's right now with money. They are the biggest purchaser of U.S. weaponry in the world.


can you help me understand how your statement is true?


Saudi Arabia: U.S. weapons industry's best customer



posted on Feb, 19 2012 @ 02:37 PM
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Originally posted by forklift

Originally posted by rebellender
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This is true but we own the Saudi's right now with money. They are the biggest purchaser of U.S. weaponry in the world.


can you help me understand how your statement is true?


Checkout my thread, you will see how it is true at the end:

The special relationship between US and Saudi


So reading between the lines USA has been sleeping with the Saudi's to keep OIL trading on Dollars which in my opinion is the only thing holding the dollar as a world reserve currency. I have been so distracted by Iran that I didnt see this. So Gaddafi was about to expose ...lets take this to your thread



posted on Feb, 19 2012 @ 03:33 PM
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The "Special relationsip" between SA & USDA is hardly news - there are any number of articles about the petrodollar on the net, including plenty suggesting the "real" reason for GW2 was that Iraq was moving away from the petrodollar.....

But back to the topic in hand - this can't possibly be true - it's on CNN which is US MSM that always tells lies, and the peaceful Govt of Iran would never do something like this, and islam is the religion of peace.

I'll believe it only when it's on PressTV!




posted on Feb, 19 2012 @ 04:57 PM
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The British created the Al Saud family, Colonel Gaddafi says it good:




edit on 19/2/2012 by GLaDOS because: (no reason given)



posted on Feb, 19 2012 @ 04:59 PM
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Originally posted by GLaDOS
The British created the Al Saud family,


that's BS - the Saud Family has existed for hundreds of years.

The West certainly played a role in the creation of their political power of course - so if that is what you mean then perhaps you can say so??



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