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Yet another Baby Mauled to Death by PIT BULL - Should they be Banned?

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posted on Feb, 19 2012 @ 03:34 PM
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There in lies the problem.


Best post of this thread. Like I said before, dogs shouldn't be the guardians of their owners, the owner should be the guardian of the dog. That way, the dog won't hurt a fly without the acceptance of its owner. Some people just don't have it in them to discipline bad behavior, they would rather reinforce it because they are weak and unable to stand up for themselves. They would rather hide behind the animal than stand up for themselves, its sad, pathetic behavior in the part of the human.

I guess that makes me a hypocrite in a weird way since I hide behind a picture of my dog on here for anonymity. Regardless, I would happily take a knife for my dog.
edit on 19-2-2012 by RSF77 because: (no reason given)




posted on Feb, 19 2012 @ 03:34 PM
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I also keep a metal or strong pen in my hand to stab the monster dog in the nose/eye in case they attack me.

The people who keep them have a very small penis and keep a big nasty vicious dog to compensate.


So, you claim others are over-compensating, yet you are the one with an irrational phobia that passes by a common animal on guard in case it attacks? Do you do the same around squirrels and pigeons?


Sorry, but my pit was not to impress anybody. The first pit was a rescue dog, and I was so impressed by her intelligence that when she died, I went out and got another one. And the second one became a lifelong friend and confidant. When he died, the out-pouring of support among people that knew him would have rivaled Whitney's! People were in disbelief, and I buried him alone, in the backyard, with just me, my father, wife, and the kids, but over the next 2 weeks over a dozen people stopped by to pay their condolences. He touched many lives......... odd for such an evil monster don't you think?



posted on Feb, 19 2012 @ 03:34 PM
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All dogs are great, right up to the point of mauling your child or someone else. And the plain fact is the parents are responsible for having a dangerous dog around the young, When it happens and can happen with ANY dog regardless how well trained the dog is you all only have your selves to blame. Live with it, My self have no animals why would i as a parent want to RISK my children full stop.



posted on Feb, 19 2012 @ 03:36 PM
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posted on Feb, 19 2012 @ 03:37 PM
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I hate this debate. I'll be damned if someone tries to take away my two pitties. They're the best dogs I've ever owned, and nicer than any other dog I've ever met. They're well trained around other dogs AND children.

My husband has 10 nieces and nephews and my dogs are overjoyed when they get to play with them. They've never even ATTEMPTED to bite anyone.

We were at the dog park the other day, and another family got there while we were tossing around the ball with our dogs. They had a little 3-4 year old girl who just ran up to my dogs and started playing with them. You could tell my pitties were so happy.

That being said, I'd never leave a baby alone with them. That goes for ANY dog. I wouldn't even leave my CAT alone with a baby. I wouldn't leave any animal alone with a baby, even a hamster. There's been cases of ferrets eating baby's faces off, should we ban ferrets?

It's ignorant to say that all pit bulls should be banned because of a few bad ones. "A few bad apples ruin the whole bunch." You could say the same for just about anything that kills anyone. Plane crashes, kills people, ban airplanes? Choke on a steak, ban steak?

Anyone who agrees with the ban pit bulls argument has never been around a well trained pit bull. Period.




posted on Feb, 19 2012 @ 03:37 PM
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Originally posted by g146541
reply to post by aorAki
 


Beautiful Rhodie!
It is a rhodie correct?
They are another nanny dog that had a bad rep YEARS ago.
One of my other picks if I had a choice.


Cheers


She's 12 years old, and is Ridgeback X Rottweiller. She's another example of nature vs nurture as she has never had an altercation with anyone, nor any other animal. she even sleeps with our cats. Again, as a dog owner ( we have 4 dogs) we have to ensure they get adequate attention, exercise and socialisation. The fact that our two 'violent breeds' have never been aggressive and love their cuddles is due to being a responsible dog owner.



posted on Feb, 19 2012 @ 03:38 PM
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These breed of dogs should be outlawed, they are very dangerous.



posted on Feb, 19 2012 @ 03:38 PM
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Originally posted by Legion2024
All dogs are great, right up to the point of mauling your child or someone else. And the plain fact is the parents are responsible for having a dangerous dog around the young, When it happens and can happen with ANY dog regardless how well trained the dog is you all only have your selves to blame. Live with it, My self have no animals why would i as a parent want to RISK my children full stop.


Risk? What about growing up? Learning how to deal with animals? Learning about unconditional love that only a loyal dog can offer? What about tradition? Why deprive your child of such an age old rite of passage? There is nothing in the world like a boy and his dog!

Risk? It just doesn't comprehend for me. Do your children live in padded rooms? There is risk on a school bus, in a car, walking to the mailbox. There are Brown Recluse spiders all around! Fire ants! Germs! Do your kids get to go to a playground? Do you make them wear a helmet on the tornado slide?

This type of "over-parenting" is part of the downfall of the nation. There are risks in life. Why not learn to live with them and appreciate them and respect them and get a little life education instead of just living in a bubble?



posted on Feb, 19 2012 @ 03:39 PM
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You are as wrong as they come. My brother was attacked by a STRAY COCKER SPANIEL in our own back yard when he was 3. My mom failed to keep a close eye on him, and he got attacked. Not the dog's fault, my Mom's fault. She went nuts after that and put both our dogs to sleep. She regrets that now soooooooooo much, she can't even discuss it. She has learned about dogs over these many years, and knows it was all her fault, not the dog. Dogs running loose, no matter what bred are a risk. When you grow up, perhaps you'll learn too.



posted on Feb, 19 2012 @ 03:40 PM
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Originally posted by snalesnot
pits should be banned they are born killers that attack throats just like a lion. my niece 6months ago almost was attacked by two pits and would of most likely died if caught. she is tiny 100pounds age 16 just got out of her car to go into her house when she was walking up to house she looked down street and two pits were running at her she ran to door unlocked it barely in time to get away. then those dogs ended up attacking another guy few houses down. screw pits they are born killers i dont give a # what anyone says their friendly this and that my ass lions in circus are friendly to so lets see a pit owner go try pet one. born killers


Yea I once got attacked by a horse. All horses should die, because they're all going to try to hurt you. I've only ever been around one horse but believe me. One attacks you, they must all want to attack you. Its amazing how people can be so ignorant.



posted on Feb, 19 2012 @ 03:42 PM
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Originally posted by maxzen2004
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These breed of dogs should be outlawed, they are very dangerous.



Humans kill more people than dogs do. Should we ban people?
I dare say you haven't read this thread through.



posted on Feb, 19 2012 @ 03:43 PM
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Pit bulls being responsible for over 70% of all FATAL dog bites in USA last year at least, is way more than "a few bad ones".

Interesting articles

www.city-journal.org...

www.pitbullsontheweb.com...

"GANG MEMBERS NOW USE PIT BULLS AS "FOUR-LEGGED" WEAPONS"





posted on Feb, 19 2012 @ 03:43 PM
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You are correct.

Cats are just as dangerous as pits.

Cat Inadvertently suffocates sleeping infant.

Co-sleeping NOT recommended for parents.

According to the CPSC, at least 515 deaths were linked to infants and toddlers under 2 years of age sleeping in adult beds from January 1990 to December 1997:

* 121 of the deaths were attributed to a parent, caregiver, or sibling rolling on top of or against a baby while sleeping
* more than 75% of the deaths involved infants younger than 3 months old

There were more kids killed by their own parents rolling over them than by all animal attacks combined! Let's start pulling babies out of their homes and raising them in sterile bubbles! Parents, and dust, and dogs, and sunlight, and food is far too dangerous for them!



posted on Feb, 19 2012 @ 03:44 PM
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Any dog can attack and kill someone. The problem with Pit Bulls is not the dog, it show they are raised



posted on Feb, 19 2012 @ 03:45 PM
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Pitbulls are less than 1% of the dog population, while they account for well over 80% of all deaths - this means statically as well as observationally it is not the owners but the dogs themselves .

The rationale that dangerous violent animals are only that way because of their owners is ignorant int eh extreme - dogs can be bred to be passive and timid very quickly JUST as they can be bred to be highly aggressive killers - which is what pitbulls are - animals bred for specific personality as well as physical traits which include aggression - sorry but thats a fact..

Pitt Bull owners are always of the same opinion as yourself, until their dog kills a small child - and your dog will eventually kill a small child - thats what they are programmed to do.


German Sheppards in Australia had a similar problem, they were a strain that had been brought out to the country for guard issues after the second world war, were highly aggressive and killing kids and people - they instituted a program to bring in new stock from Europe which had been bred to be much more passive and fixed the problem - its well acknowledged that this occurs in dogs and has been dealt with repeatedly over the years - there are many other types of breeds which are simply NOT ALLOWED into many countries at all because they are so dangerous - so to claim that its not the dog, it can;'t be the dog is simply ignorant of what selective breeding can achieve and the role of genetics.

Yes, they should be either banned or bred with new stock to remove their aggressive nature - the stats on these dogs is appalling.



posted on Feb, 19 2012 @ 03:47 PM
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Terrible Parenting.

These Parents should be brought up on changes. Endangering a child? Something like that?

"Left the baby alone for a few seconds?" I bet it was more like a few minutes; but even a few seconds alone with a 2 year old male put is deplorable.

I hate to kick these parents when they just lost they're newborn baby, but if anyone is to blame it's them.

What they did is just as stupid, and irresponsible as leaving a 2 or 3 year old in a room alone with a loaded hand-gun with no safety on it. If the child shoots someone or themselves, who's to blame?



posted on Feb, 19 2012 @ 03:47 PM
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Originally posted by ignant
Pit bulls being responsible for over 70% of all FATAL dog bites in USA last year at least, is way more than "a few bad ones".

Interesting articles

www.city-journal.org...

www.pitbullsontheweb.com...

"GANG MEMBERS NOW USE PIT BULLS AS "FOUR-LEGGED" WEAPONS"





I hope you don't have a job that has anything to do with statistics. Obviously this is a weighted statistic. Of course pit bulls are going to make up a greater % of fatal bites. That doesn't make them the problem. When you take out all the pitbulls, then another breed of dog, will make up the majority of the fatal dog bites, should we take those out too? In fact you could keep going down the line until there's just no dogs period. The reason these dogs are going out of control, is because of the owners, and they should be held accountable. Banning the dogs outright is not a solution, its just ignoring the problem.



posted on Feb, 19 2012 @ 03:48 PM
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Pitbulls are less than 1% of the dog population, while they account for well over 80% of all deaths - this means statically as well as observationally it is not the owners but the dogs themselves .


OK, so lets ban them. And then guess what? A new dog will take the #1 spot. So, we'll ban it. And guess what? A new dog will take the #1 spot! Pretty soon, we can't have any dogs anymore, but then common sense will set in... finally, and we'll realize other things are even MORE dangerous, like swingsets, and slides, and swimming pools, and bicycles! OH MY GOD!
We better do a study, and ban the #1 on that list too! And then next year, we'll run the statistics again, and we can ban the new #1! Sterile Bubble world here we come!



posted on Feb, 19 2012 @ 03:48 PM
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It is good your Mum got educated, it truly helps.
The best education I can give on this...
If you had your own Pit in your back yard, the cocker would have never dreamt of coming over and your Brother would have never got attacked.
Dogs are for more than just burglars and family play!
They protect the pack from all enemies.



posted on Feb, 19 2012 @ 03:48 PM
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Unconditional love is not the responsibility of an animal that is YOUR job to teach your children. Btw 260 stitches left side of my body from a dog attack, just some owner walking his dog and all it took was 5secs and blood every where, after the fact he said his dog was well trained good with children never had bitten anyone, Guess what it did, in front of my children. at the park,

There is a difference between playground risk a few times a week with in a safety playground supervised, then the risk factor on a animal that can cause so much damage in 5secs. If you want to risk that most of the time with in your own house good on you, Hope it never happens to you.



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