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Originally posted by arpgme
reply to post by LifeIsEnergy
Yes duality AND unity exists. It is a way to look at things. You can say there is "yin" and there is "yang" or you can say there is the "yin-yang symbol" which would be the whole.
So, they must both exist. I agree that they depend on each other and they are whole, just like hot and cold are a duality that exists but they are both temperature.
This is a great way to explain it:
There is a seed (wholeness/totality/peace), and it will grow a leaf. The leaf will be either "healthy" or "unhealthy". This is the duality, but in order for the "healithy" or "unhealthy" leaf to exist, it first had to grow from the seed.
The seed is peace. The seed is source. It is the foundation of all things, and from peace, you feel emotions, either "feel-good" or "feel-bad" emotions.
There is energy - positive and negative, but it's all energy (peace).
Originally posted by arpgme
reply to post by Itisnowagain
But "Peace" is something, as well. Peace is the source, and because of that, the negative and the positive can manifest.
There is the negative (Void - Emptiness) and there is the positive (Whole - Fullness), but inner peace, is the foundation of it all...
Originally posted by tkwasny
The quest by omniscience to project Its omnipresence in being true to Its own definition, so as to exist even inside of absolute non-existence. We, that are proxies as consciousness sinks, are the tools through which it is accomplished. However the parasite develops atop the finites tools set (our minds), which is ego that prevents each individual from becoming partners and participants in the communion.
It is the Silence, the nothingness, the peace, Omniscience seeks to receive from each of us. That is all, nothing more. Those that state there is more than that, those activities are designed to feed the ego parasite.
Originally posted by LifeIsEnergy
reply to post by arpgme
I am sorry sir/miss, but this does not hold up. Please go further into this with me. There can be no "separate but unified", because as long as there is division there is no unity, there is only the philosophical concept of unity. This is a fact, not an opinion. If there is division/separation as you say there is, then there is also chaos, conflict and thus no peace.
Originally posted by ImaFungi
If one existed in nothing, stillness and peace for ever, to exist within nothingness, with no deviation, no duty, no adventure, no experience, nothing to know, wouldn't that be a hell,.,,
enough of a hell to struggle and suffer, to exist as close to nothing, within everything,...,
if only for a short while...
Originally posted by LifeIsEnergy
reply to post by ImaFungi
Someone may hold whatever beliefs they like, but only the facts can clarify reality and release us from suffering, chaos and confusion. It is not an opinion that the thinker and the thoughts are one and the same, that is a fact. Nor is it an opinion that the contents of thoughts are the contents of the world, that is a fact. So the fact is there is no separation, no division. Someone may hold the belief that these are separate yet it will not hold up to the facts of reality, thus they will continue to suffer because of this delusion.
Beliefs are a poison to peace and happiness.
Originally posted by ButtUglyToad
Originally posted by LifeIsEnergy
Our perception is currently divided into three 'categories': the world (outside), consciousness/thoughts (inside) and the entity who is conscious (middle/in between). But are these really separate, or are they actually a single/unified movement? Please think about this very sincerely.
Three Categories = Trinality
-1 0 +1
That's where Duality runs afoul of the truth, it doesn't account for the THIRD part, sew the math of Duality is:
66.6% of the truth = 666
The OP talks about Peace within but you cannot find that Peace within by expanding/expounding outwardly, you must collapse inwardly instead, which is the lesson God/Source has taught us.
eYe loved what you said!
Pee On!
Ribbit
Ps: A synonym of "collapse" is "cataclysm" and an antonym of that is "happiness". Sew happiness is within, kNot without.
edit on 19-2-2012 by ButtUglyToad because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by ButtUglyToad
Originally posted by arpgme
reply to post by Itisnowagain
ZERO is the SOURCE of ALL numbers, the SOURCE OF ALL, thus, the MIDDLE is the SOURCE of PEACE!
Middle = ZERO
-1 0 +1
Go back to skewl and get your math right!
Ribbit
There is -1, 0, and +1.
But it is from zero that the positive and negative numbers manifest. Zero is the balance between the two sides, just like peace is the container and balance between two sides.
Originally posted by ErroneousDylan
Duality exists... for those who allow it to exist. Of course, it is practically impossible not to act on duality in this modern society that is based upon it. However, if you see nothing as good, then you will see nothing as bad. We do see things as good though. Really though, everything just is. And that "is" is peace.
Peace, to me, is a word that has lost much meaning, however, much like the word "God". What once used to be a powerful world is now a word that has lost much of its meaning and is now associated with things that most people would not agree on.
"Peace to you."
"Silly hippy!"
When you cease the judgement (which creates duality) you will know peace.
Originally posted by arpgme
Originally posted by LifeIsEnergy
reply to post by arpgme
I am sorry sir/miss, but this does not hold up. Please go further into this with me. There can be no "separate but unified", because as long as there is division there is no unity, there is only the philosophical concept of unity. This is a fact, not an opinion. If there is division/separation as you say there is, then there is also chaos, conflict and thus no peace.
Again, hot and cold are a division / duality BUT they are still a UNITY called temperature...
Originally posted by ImaFungi
If one existed in nothing, stillness and peace for ever, to exist within nothingness, with no deviation, no duty, no adventure, no experience, nothing to know, wouldn't that be a hell,.,,
enough of a hell to struggle and suffer, to exist as close to nothing, within everything,...,
if only for a short while...
You are already existing in peace forever. It is BECAUSE you live in peace - the natural foundational and neutral state of existence that the positive and the negative can exist...
Originally posted by LifeIsEnergy
reply to post by ImaFungi
Someone may hold whatever beliefs they like, but only the facts can clarify reality and release us from suffering, chaos and confusion. It is not an opinion that the thinker and the thoughts are one and the same, that is a fact. Nor is it an opinion that the contents of thoughts are the contents of the world, that is a fact. So the fact is there is no separation, no division. Someone may hold the belief that these are separate yet it will not hold up to the facts of reality, thus they will continue to suffer because of this delusion.
Beliefs are a poison to peace and happiness.
And the unity of it all is peace. Love and Hate, Chaos and Order, Confusion and Harmony are all a manifestation OF it.
It is because the nature of existence is peace that Love AND Hate can manifest and thus harmony and chaos.
Originally posted by ButtUglyToad
Originally posted by LifeIsEnergy
Our perception is currently divided into three 'categories': the world (outside), consciousness/thoughts (inside) and the entity who is conscious (middle/in between). But are these really separate, or are they actually a single/unified movement? Please think about this very sincerely.
Three Categories = Trinality
-1 0 +1
That's where Duality runs afoul of the truth, it doesn't account for the THIRD part, sew the math of Duality is:
66.6% of the truth = 666
The OP talks about Peace within but you cannot find that Peace within by expanding/expounding outwardly, you must collapse inwardly instead, which is the lesson God/Source has taught us.
eYe loved what you said!
Pee On!
Ribbit
Ps: A synonym of "collapse" is "cataclysm" and an antonym of that is "happiness". Sew happiness is within, kNot without.
edit on 19-2-2012 by ButtUglyToad because: (no reason given)
I guess you can call it a trinality if you include the holder of the duality itself.
The positive, the negative, and the neutral (peace) which contains the positive and negative.
Originally posted by ButtUglyToad
Originally posted by arpgme
reply to post by Itisnowagain
ZERO is the SOURCE of ALL numbers, the SOURCE OF ALL, thus, the MIDDLE is the SOURCE of PEACE!
Middle = ZERO
-1 0 +1
Go back to skewl and get your math right!
Ribbit
There is -1, 0, and +1.
But it is from zero that the positive and negative numbers manifest. Zero is the balance between the two sides, just like peace is the container and balance between two sides.
Originally posted by LifeIsEnergy
reply to post by arpgme
You are already existing in peace forever. It is BECAUSE you live in peace - the natural foundational and neutral state of existence that the positive and the negative can exist...
Originally posted by ButtUglyToad
Hot and Cold are kNot Temperature, they are degrees of HEAT! Ying-Yang is a PERFECT example of HEAT!
Circle = HEAT = SOURCE
Black = hot or cold
White = cold or hot
Inverted, it would look like this:
Cold Heat Hot
Heat is SOURCE and Hot and Cold are VARIBLES OF HEAT! Get your math RIGHT!
Ribbit
edit on 19-2-2012 by ButtUglyToad because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by arpgme
Peace is acceptance and allowance. This is the universal energy of everything that exist. It is existence itself. It is from peace that all other things can manifest. Peace is netural, it is from here that the positive and the negative can exist.
Peace is the container of the yin(g) and yang.
Peace is neutral, therefore it is the container of all things.
Peace is eternal, because it never began therefore it can never end.
It is the starting place of all things. It is existence itself.
Peace is infinite, because it has no goals it can never finish, it can never win or fail.
It is the bearer of all things.
It is the bearer of change.
It is the bearer of existence.
Because Peace itself is the foundation of all things, it is a collective energy of all that is. It is the universe, or God, or Nature, and when you align 100% with it, you align 100% with everything (at the basis).
Originally posted by arpgme
Originally posted by ButtUglyToad
Hot and Cold are kNot Temperature, they are degrees of HEAT! Ying-Yang is a PERFECT example of HEAT!
Circle = HEAT = SOURCE
Black = hot or cold
White = cold or hot
Inverted, it would look like this:
Cold Heat Hot
Heat is SOURCE and Hot and Cold are VARIBLES OF HEAT! Get your math RIGHT!
Ribbit
edit on 19-2-2012 by ButtUglyToad because: (no reason given)
Coldness is the absence of heat, but it is still it's opposite, heat and non-heat depend on each other, their unity is called temperature.
Originally posted by ButtUglyToad
[COLD is the absence (negative) of HEAT!
HOT is the abundance (positive) of HEAT!
negative (cold) HEAT positive (hot)
-1 0 +1
There is no "non-heat"! Your math is atrocious!
Did they kNot teach math & science in skewl, where you come from?
Ribbit
edit on 19-2-2012 by ButtUglyToad because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by arpgme
Originally posted by ButtUglyToad
[COLD is the absence (negative) of HEAT!
HOT is the abundance (positive) of HEAT!
negative (cold) HEAT positive (hot)
-1 0 +1
There is no "non-heat"! Your math is atrocious!
Did they kNot teach math & science in skewl, where you come from?
Ribbit
edit on 19-2-2012 by ButtUglyToad because: (no reason given)
Non-heat is the absence of heat. This is not math, it is logic.
Even so, "absence" and "presence" depend on each other.
The presence of heat is called hot.
The absence of heat is called cold.
This measurement is called temperature.
Peace is Source, Nature, the starting place of all things...
Originally posted by arpgme
reply to post by ButtUglyToad
In what what is my logic flawed? It would be helpful for you to point out the error(s)...
Originally posted by arpgme
The three primary colors, still stem from the fact that "color" exist. Without color, the three primary colors could not exist, nor could warm colors like red or cold colors like blue exist.
Originally posted by ButtUglyToad
Originally posted by arpgme
The three primary colors, still stem from the fact that "color" exist. Without color, the three primary colors could not exist, nor could warm colors like red or cold colors like blue exist.
There's another BAD LOGIC statement! The THREE Primary Colors of Red & Green & Blue dew kNot come from color, they come from SOURCE and SOURCE is LIGHT!
Duh!
Ribbit
edit on 19-2-2012 by ButtUglyToad because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by arpgme
Originally posted by ButtUglyToad
Originally posted by arpgme
The three primary colors, still stem from the fact that "color" exist. Without color, the three primary colors could not exist, nor could warm colors like red or cold colors like blue exist.
There's another BAD LOGIC statement! The THREE Primary Colors of Red & Green & Blue dew kNot come from color, they come from SOURCE and SOURCE is LIGHT!
Duh!
Ribbit
edit on 19-2-2012 by ButtUglyToad because: (no reason given)
Ok, I'll agree with you, color comes from light, but wihtout the light colors could not exist.
Without Peace, without Source, there is no basis for all other things to come.
It is from neutruality, from peace, that positivity and negativity manifest.
It is because the nature of existence is peace that Love AND Hate can manifest and thus harmony and chaos.
Originally posted by LifeIsEnergy
Who says hot and cold are two sides of the same coin?