Obama Still Has A Lot Of Explaining To Do

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posted on Feb, 20 2012 @ 04:02 PM
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Originally posted by Still

Originally posted by Dimitri Dzengalshlevi
Frankly, I never even knew about the Barry Soetoro thing before I even looked into this thread (I'm not exactly interested in using my time and resources by obsessing over yet another modern American conspiracy). But knowing that Obama has ties within the CIA, it is not surprising in the least.


You never heard it before you introduced it in this thread?

So you introduced it to yourself?
Or are you saying you read it earlier and without checking into it, repeated it as if it were true?
Where exactly did you slip up?

You said, in this thread, that he changed his name. He did not change his name but you claimed he did. Now you also claim you never even heard that before this thread but yet you repeated it as if it were true anyway?

So why would you choose to repeat something without knowing if it were true or not?

That seems dishonest or willfully ignorant to a purpose to me. Can you explain it so it does not?


Are you seriously slow in the head? The article in the opening page introduced this into the thread. Maybe if you took the time to pay attention to the point of this thread instead of jumping on opinions that you cannot seem to fanthom, then you might not be bothering other posters with redundant questions.


jrod-
In my opinion Barry might be the most extreme POTUS since Lincoln and there is no doubt he wants to take the US on a path toward socialism.


Socialism is the only thing that will save your country. The US has allowed private interests to seize control of virtually every inch of the US and have torn it asunder without regulations to protect the system. The self-constraining "invisible hand" doesn't exist until you have a fascist government where the king corporations are established at the top, which means that they can regulate the system. The fact that the US government has been dishing out billions, if not trillions, to finance capitalists is not socialism- it is more like investment by the US government into the real leaders in a country dominated by class warfare.

And Obama is not socialist, not by a long shot. Socialism implies that he has plans to re-nationalize American industry and put industry back into public hands. All I've seen him do is carry out even further fascist policies, specifically by going after unions. His foreign policy is an even more refined and covert neo-liberal doctrine than Bush ever had. This isn't socialism.

Don't confuse socialism with fascism. The "socialism" in fascism is positive freedom, meaning that you're accepted as being relevant if you are in line with the status quo. Real socialism aims at zero class disparity (in other words, class unity) and public ownership of industry, assets and resources. I see the exact opposite in the US, and the far right of the spectrum (as opposed to the far left) is fascism.
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posted on Feb, 20 2012 @ 07:16 PM
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Originally posted by Dimitri Dzengalshlevi
Are you seriously slow in the head? The article in the opening page introduced this into the thread.


And it was not true then.


Maybe if you took the time to pay attention to the point of this thread instead of jumping on opinions that you cannot seem to fanthom, then you might not be bothering other posters with redundant questions.


Speaking of slow in the head. Your response is gibberish. You posted a blatant lie that you repeated from the OP without ever once checking the validity of it yourself and your excuse is that you never heard it until this thread.

So you stated it as a fact, after reading it in the OP, turned out to be wrong, and your excuse is you had not heard about it until now?

Um what?

How does that make me slow in the head?

I called you out for posting a lie and you have yet to retract it. All you are doing is dancing for some reason. Perhaps you like lies being out there?



posted on Feb, 20 2012 @ 07:18 PM
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Originally posted by KonquestAbySS
Still is still posting about birthers?...
You have been debunked how are you still on this forum? You should of been banned after you received your -5000 points for trolling. Keep up the bad work still.


What has been debunked?



posted on Feb, 20 2012 @ 09:57 PM
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Even if he is illegal as a president at least he's doing some things the right way.



posted on Feb, 20 2012 @ 10:28 PM
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Originally posted by luccadeo
I have often wondered about why no one has ever come forward from his past to say they were friends or anything. No school buddies, no childhood friends, no ex-girlfriends, nothing. Very sketchy if you ask me.


Well first of all they have but let's play.


Originally not posted by luccadeo
I have often wondered about why no one has ever come forward from Avril Lavigne's past to say they were friends or anything. No school buddies, no childhood friends, no ex-girlfriends, nothing. Very sketchy if you ask me.




Originally not posted by luccadeo
I have often wondered about why no one has ever come forward from Tom Cruise's past to say they were friends or anything. No school buddies, no childhood friends, no ex-girlfriends, nothing. Very sketchy if you ask me.




Originally not posted by luccadeo
I have often wondered about why no one has ever come forward from Ghandi's past to say they were friends or anything. No school buddies, no childhood friends, no ex-girlfriends, nothing. Very sketchy if you ask me.


Holy crap do I have a list of people that must be made up.
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posted on Feb, 20 2012 @ 11:02 PM
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I am all for socialized healthcare but am a firm believer in free enterprise. I've been calling the US a corporate oligarchy.

Obama had socialist ideals, I was hoping he could actually help the healthcare system. It does seem like Barry is evolving into a fascist.
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posted on Feb, 20 2012 @ 11:11 PM
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I sort of agree

I would like Obama to explain what is like when he wins reelection



posted on Feb, 20 2012 @ 11:24 PM
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Originally posted by jibeho
reply to post by spoor
 


Who applied for Obama's SS# in Connecticut?


When did you prove that anyone ever did?


ETA. Some suggest that Obama may have applied himself while a Student at Columbia. If that were the case the 1973 rule would be negated. After 1973 blocks of SS numbers were issued to specific states reflecting the address used on the application. Obama lived in New York.

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Too bad the SSA does not agree with you.



posted on Feb, 20 2012 @ 11:26 PM
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Originally posted by beezzer


Start a thread on the other presidents.
This thread is about Obama. (or aboot Obama if you're Canadian)


Birther fail number 1. "Why cannot I find any XYZ on Obama?"
Because you could never find XYZ on any president.
"This is not about other presidents."

You are better than that.


Everything has been debunked?
Awesome!

Whereare his school transcripts then?
What's the link?
What's the site?
What's the intrasite webnet address?

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Please do tell what a link to his school transcripts will debunk for you.
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posted on Feb, 20 2012 @ 11:31 PM
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Originally posted by m0rphine
I'm not sure who is debating whether or not Obama is President. Can you show me where this was said?


First post.
First page

Originally posted by xuenchen
It hashes out many discrepancies including the lack of people to verify the existence of Mr Obama and of course the usual birth certificate and social security number !!

Hard to be president if you do not even exist.



posted on Feb, 20 2012 @ 11:32 PM
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Originally posted by xuenchen
reply to post by spoor
 


The whole Orly Taitz game may in fact be part of the cover up in itself.

All those cases keep setting precedents that make it harder to expose the anomalies.

The perfect shill.



Can you list these precedents please?



posted on Feb, 20 2012 @ 11:53 PM
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Originally posted by Still
Can you list these precedents please?


Here is one, poor Orly lost in Georgia to a empty desk.... her "experts" were not actually experts, and the rubbish she presented on Obama's SSN was found to just garbage...



posted on Feb, 21 2012 @ 12:04 AM
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Originally posted by Still

Originally posted by xuenchen
reply to post by spoor
 


The whole Orly Taitz game may in fact be part of the cover up in itself.

All those cases keep setting precedents that make it harder to expose the anomalies.

The perfect shill.



Can you list these precedents please?


Every case that's ever been started set a marker for the next ones.

They all may have been designed to fail.

Why else would anyone take it to court.

Helps to keep everybody guessing.



posted on Feb, 21 2012 @ 12:08 AM
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Originally posted by xuenchen
Every case that's ever been started set a marker for the next ones.


Such as?
Do you know what a precedent is?
If so, you can tell me at least one of them that has been set in any one of these cases.


They all may have been designed to fail.

Why else would anyone take it to court.

Helps to keep everybody guessing.



Cool. Now can you answer my question?



posted on Feb, 21 2012 @ 12:08 AM
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Originally posted by xuenchen
They all may have been designed to fail.


But as the birthers have zero evidence for their silly conspiracy theories, of course they all fail! Why would you expect them to succeed?


Why else would anyone take it to court.


because some people refuse to accept reality, that Obama is the legal POTUS!



posted on Feb, 21 2012 @ 12:13 AM
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Birther fail number 1. "Why cannot I find any XYZ on Obama?"




Because you could never find XYZ on any president.




"This is not about other presidents."


WRONG!
2004.georgewbush.org...
www.insidepolitics.org...
www.usatoday.com...
www.huffingtonpost.com...

DIG THIS: MEDIA ACTUALLY PROBED OTHER CANDIDATES

The media have dredged up medical, military, college and detailed records for Republican and Democratic Party candidates in at least the last five elections. Candidates were subject to intense scrutiny of their health conditions, academic performance and military careers.


As WND has reported, Obama has not released his long-form birth certificate, college transcripts, Harvard Law Review articles, scholarly articles from the University of Chicago, files from his years as an Illinois state senator, Illinois State Bar Association records or his adoption records.

www.wnd.com...

Americans That Are Older And Maturer, Normally Like To Know A Little More About The Person We Are Hiring To Be Our Leader,,,,, But, People Voted For Obama Because They Were AFRAID Of Being Called A Racist.
My Husband Did Not Vote For Obama and He Does Not Give A Damn What Any One Calls Him and If They Do, It's To His Back,,,, My Husband, Our Daughter and Myself Will Be Voting This Time,,,,, We Are Not Voting For Obama.



posted on Feb, 21 2012 @ 12:37 AM
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If Obama remains in office and isn't voted out, he will mandate
a "one child policy." Watch.



posted on Feb, 21 2012 @ 12:38 AM
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reply to post by Still
 


I'm not sure you are understanding the point.

Can you explain what you think I was thinking ?

It's deeper than what's on the surface.

We are dealing with clever people.



posted on Feb, 21 2012 @ 12:54 AM
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Our wonderful President....
Here it is in a nutshell. You freely choose evil, it's your soul.

excerpt to a message:

The Blessed Mother, February 20, 2012

..."Even today this is true in regards to abortion and same sex marriage. Be wary of those who cannot accept criticism and those who cannot self-correct. These are the ones that let pride rule their hearts."

"The most decadent amongst you - people and nations - will suffer the greatest tribulations. The farther you are from the Heart of the Divine Will the greater your compromise of the Truth, and the longer your journey into Our United Hearts."...


www.holylove.org...



posted on Feb, 21 2012 @ 01:06 AM
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