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Obama Still Has A Lot Of Explaining To Do

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posted on Feb, 20 2012 @ 08:55 AM
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Originally posted by XyZeR

No I debunk the messengers's motives, I never attacked, just pointed out that Newsmax's journalistic credibility is non-existent.


That sounds an awful lot like an opinion or something




And... Ha that's rich, for someone who is constantly ignoring FACTS and CHOOSING to embrace ignorance about all the myths people who can't stand having "non-white man" in the White house.


Isn't ignoring facts exactly what you're doing? And then making baseless assumptions about racism because you can't think of anything better?



It's so pathetic, it's beyond belief.


Definitely agree




posted on Feb, 20 2012 @ 08:59 AM
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I have often wondered about why no one has ever come forward from his past to say they were friends or anything. No school buddies, no childhood friends, no ex-girlfriends, nothing. Very sketchy if you ask me.



posted on Feb, 20 2012 @ 09:00 AM
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Originally posted by beezzer
Why bring race into the debate?


Because that is what is behind most birthers....


The race card has been maxed out.


By birthers refusing to accept a black man is their legal POTUS!



posted on Feb, 20 2012 @ 09:01 AM
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You referring to my motives? Without addressing me personally? STILL. Wow!! How about discussing the facts instead of applying your own assumptions about what motivates those who question the questionable. That's why we are all on ATS Right??



posted on Feb, 20 2012 @ 09:02 AM
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Originally posted by luccadeo
I have often wondered about why no one has ever come forward from his past to say they were friends or anything. No school buddies, no childhood friends


Why not wonder why you have not bothered to do any research yourself, as if you did you would find Obama's school buddies and friends have come forward.

Instead you just blindly repeat lies you read on a birther site!



posted on Feb, 20 2012 @ 09:15 AM
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When Barry has elected, I had an open mind was hopeful he could get the US going in the right direction. 3 years later it is obvious to me that he is a fraud. I can tell you the moment I lost hope for his presidency.

I thought the birther movement was nothing but a bunch of bigots who were upset that a man of color became president. I did some research and there many things that scream foul, the biggest being his social security number.

Why don't you look at Barack's life story with an open mind yourself?

Just because he looks good on camera, sounds good on the radio, and tells you what you want to hear does not make him a great president or even a competent president.

In my opinion Barry might be the most extreme POTUS since Lincoln and there is no doubt he wants to take the US on a path toward socialism.
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posted on Feb, 20 2012 @ 09:21 AM
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Originally posted by jrod
biggest being his social security number.


So just what exactly do you think is wrong with his SSN, and why. And please do not repeat the lies posted on birther sites.

Also remember Orly Taitz lost the court case when she presented nonsense on Obama's SSN, in fact she lost to a empty table!

The Court finds the testimony of the witnesses, as well as the exhibits tendered, to be of little, if any, probative value, and thus wholly insufficient to support plaintiffs’ allegations



In my opinion Barry


Who is "Barry"?
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posted on Feb, 20 2012 @ 09:27 AM
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Maybe the FACT that he does NOT have a Hawaii Social Security number. The first 3 digits of one's SSN number are based on the area where one is born. According to his SSN he was not born in Hawaii.

You know who Barry is.



posted on Feb, 20 2012 @ 09:29 AM
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Originally posted by m0rphine
Isn't ignoring facts exactly what you're doing?


Please enlighten me, which FACTS I am supposedly ignoring ????



posted on Feb, 20 2012 @ 09:33 AM
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Originally posted by jrod
The first 3 digits of one's SSN number are based on the area where one is born.


As I said, do not believe the lies birther sites post. if you had done a bit of research you would know

Prior to 1973, cards were issued in local Social Security offices around the country and the Area Number represented the office code in which the card was issued. This did not necessarily have to be in the area where the applicant lived, since a person could apply for their card in any Social Security office

www.socialsecurity.gov...


According to his SSN he was not born in Hawaii.


I knew you were doing to post that lie!
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posted on Feb, 20 2012 @ 09:39 AM
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Who applied for Obama's SS# in Connecticut?

ETA. Some suggest that Obama may have applied himself while a Student at Columbia. If that were the case the 1973 rule would be negated. After 1973 blocks of SS numbers were issued to specific states reflecting the address used on the application. Obama lived in New York.


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posted on Feb, 20 2012 @ 09:46 AM
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Originally posted by XyZeR

Originally posted by m0rphine
Isn't ignoring facts exactly what you're doing?


Please enlighten me, which FACTS I am supposedly ignoring ????





The ones listed from the news source you wish to discredit.

If they are not true, feel free to prove the fallacy.



posted on Feb, 20 2012 @ 09:49 AM
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Originally posted by jibeho
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Who applied for Obama's SS# in Connecticut?

*cricket*
*cricket*
*cricket*



(It might have been Dick Cheney! What way to bring all back to blaming Bush! )

Sorry, was silly for a moment. I'll behave.
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posted on Feb, 20 2012 @ 09:56 AM
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Originally posted by beezzer

Originally posted by jibeho
reply to post by spoor
 


Who applied for Obama's SS# in Connecticut?

*cricket*
*cricket*
*cricket*



(It might have been Dick Cheney! What way to bring all back to blaming Bush! )

Sorry, was silly for a moment. I'll behave.
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Ask yourself this question:

Who applied the SN for all the previous presidents you've never ever even thought about asking that (retarded) question?

Ill ask my genuine question again (which was also answered by silence and crickets )

The real question is: what do these deluded people want to get out of this constant repeating of things which have been debunked. That Obama resigns?


Let me strap in here for your answer....



posted on Feb, 20 2012 @ 10:01 AM
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Originally posted by XyZeR


Ask yourself this question:

Who applied the SN for all the previous presidents you've never ever even thought about asking that (retarded) question?

Ill ask my genuine question again (which was also answered by silence and crickets ) The real question is: what do these deluded people want to get out of this constant repeating of things which have been debunked. That Obama resigns?


Start a thread on the other presidents.
This thread is about Obama. (or aboot Obama if you're Canadian)

Everything has been debunked?
Awesome!

Whereare his school transcripts then?
What's the link?
What's the site?
What's the intrasite webnet address?


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posted on Feb, 20 2012 @ 10:05 AM
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Originally posted by jibeho
reply to post by spoor
 


Who applied for Obama's SS# in Connecticut?

*cricket*
*cricket*
*cricket*



(It might have been Dick Cheney! What way to bring all back to blaming Bush! )

Sorry, was silly for a moment. I'll behave.
edit on 20-2-2012 by beezzer because: (no reason given)


Ask yourself this question:

Who applied the SN for all the previous presidents you've never ever even thought about asking that (retarded) question?

Ill ask my genuine question again (which was also answered by silence and crickets )

The real question is: what do these deluded people want to get out of this constant repeating of things which have been debunked. That Obama resigns?


Let me strap in here for your answer....


The ones listed from the news source you wish to discredit.
If they are not true, feel free to prove the fallacy.


They have been proven, you just choose to NOT accept them, why is beyond me...
If you don't see a problem with "Newsmax" beeing a valid news-organisation ( FYI it's a right wing propaganda site that deliberatly spreads filth to cater to wacky Truthers, who will regurgitate anything negative about Obama.)

I'm done with this thread, these birther people are worse then creationists
You could slap proof of everything in their faces all day long and they'dd still deny it.
Deny ignorance....yeah right
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Start a thread on the other presidents.
This thread is about Obama.

^My point is proven... (haha what a pathatic attempt ...)
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posted on Feb, 20 2012 @ 10:10 AM
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Originally posted by XyZeR

They have been proven, you just choose to NOT accept them, why is beyond me...
If you don't see a problem with "Newsmax" beeing a valid news-organisation ( FYI it's a right wing propaganda site that deliberatly spreads filth to cater to wacky Truthers, who will regurgitate anything negative about Obama.)

I'm done with this thread, these birther people are worse then creationists
You could slap proof of everything in their faces all day long and they'dd still deny it.
Deny ignorance....yeah right



The Obama campaign told Newsmax that Obama self-financed his three years at Harvard Law School with loans, and did not receive any scholarship from Harvard Law school.

LaBolt denied that Obama received any financial assistance from Harvard or from outside parties. “No - he paid his way through by taking out loans,” he said in an email to Newsmax.

At the time, Harvard cost around $25,000 a year, or $75,000 for the three years that Obama attended. And as president of the Harvard Law Review, he received no stipend from the school, Harvard spokesman Mike Armini said.

“That is considered a volunteer position,” Armini said. “There is no salary or grant associated with it.”

So if the figures cited by the Obama campaign for the Senator’s student loans are accurate, that means that Obama came up with more than $32,000 over three years from sources other than loans to pay for tuition, room and board.

Where did he find the money? Did it come from friends of Khalid Al Mansour? And why would a radical Muslim activist with ties to the Saudi royal family be raising money for Barack Obama?

That’s the question the Obama campaign still won’t answer.



Michelle Obama Speaks Out

Speaking at a campaign event in Haverford, Pa, in April of this year, Michelle Obama claimed that her husband had “just paid off his loan debt” for his Harvard Law School education.

In an appearance in Zanesville, Ohio, in February she bemoaned the fact that many American families were strapped with student loan payments for years after graduation.

“The only reason we’re not in that position is that Barack wrote two best-selling books,” she said. The first of those best-sellers netted the couple $1.2 million in royalties in 2005.

In response to Newsmax questions about the Obama’s college loans, a campaign spokesman cited a report in The Chicago Sun claiming that Obama borrowed $42,753 to pay for Harvard Law School, and “tens of thousands” more to pay for undergraduate studies at Columbia.

The same report said that Michelle Obama borrowed $40,762 to pay for her years at Harvard Law School.

But a Newsmax review of Senator Obama’s financial disclosures found no trace of any outstanding college loans, going back to 2000.


You have not addressed those at all. You can claim fallacies have been proven all you want, doesn't make it true. I would tell you once again to prove it, but I can see you are running off now.

Buh bye



posted on Feb, 20 2012 @ 10:13 AM
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Originally posted by m0rphine

Originally posted by XyZeR

They have been proven, you just choose to NOT accept them, why is beyond me...
If you don't see a problem with "Newsmax" beeing a valid news-organisation ( FYI it's a right wing propaganda site that deliberatly spreads filth to cater to wacky Truthers, who will regurgitate anything negative about Obama.)

I'm done with this thread, these birther people are worse then creationists
You could slap proof of everything in their faces all day long and they'dd still deny it.
Deny ignorance....yeah right



The Obama campaign told Newsmax that Obama self-financed his three years at Harvard Law School with loans, and did not receive any scholarship from Harvard Law school.

LaBolt denied that Obama received any financial assistance from Harvard or from outside parties. “No - he paid his way through by taking out loans,” he said in an email to Newsmax.

At the time, Harvard cost around $25,000 a year, or $75,000 for the three years that Obama attended. And as president of the Harvard Law Review, he received no stipend from the school, Harvard spokesman Mike Armini said.

“That is considered a volunteer position,” Armini said. “There is no salary or grant associated with it.”

So if the figures cited by the Obama campaign for the Senator’s student loans are accurate, that means that Obama came up with more than $32,000 over three years from sources other than loans to pay for tuition, room and board.

Where did he find the money? Did it come from friends of Khalid Al Mansour? And why would a radical Muslim activist with ties to the Saudi royal family be raising money for Barack Obama?

That’s the question the Obama campaign still won’t answer.



Michelle Obama Speaks Out

Speaking at a campaign event in Haverford, Pa, in April of this year, Michelle Obama claimed that her husband had “just paid off his loan debt” for his Harvard Law School education.

In an appearance in Zanesville, Ohio, in February she bemoaned the fact that many American families were strapped with student loan payments for years after graduation.

“The only reason we’re not in that position is that Barack wrote two best-selling books,” she said. The first of those best-sellers netted the couple $1.2 million in royalties in 2005.

In response to Newsmax questions about the Obama’s college loans, a campaign spokesman cited a report in The Chicago Sun claiming that Obama borrowed $42,753 to pay for Harvard Law School, and “tens of thousands” more to pay for undergraduate studies at Columbia.

The same report said that Michelle Obama borrowed $40,762 to pay for her years at Harvard Law School.

But a Newsmax review of Senator Obama’s financial disclosures found no trace of any outstanding college loans, going back to 2000.


You have not addressed those at all. You can claim fallacies have been proven all you want, doesn't make it true. I would tell you once again to prove it, but I can see you are running off now.

Buh bye


I'm running of because of the lack of intelligence, of reason, of discussions (you poeple are not capable of it):
Obama is your president, and will be for another term, Nothing of the drivel you Truthers post or proclaim will
change that fact, Enjoy

Buy bye



posted on Feb, 20 2012 @ 10:15 AM
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Originally posted by XyZeR

Originally posted by m0rphine

Originally posted by XyZeR

They have been proven, you just choose to NOT accept them, why is beyond me...
If you don't see a problem with "Newsmax" beeing a valid news-organisation ( FYI it's a right wing propaganda site that deliberatly spreads filth to cater to wacky Truthers, who will regurgitate anything negative about Obama.)

I'm done with this thread, these birther people are worse then creationists
You could slap proof of everything in their faces all day long and they'dd still deny it.
Deny ignorance....yeah right



The Obama campaign told Newsmax that Obama self-financed his three years at Harvard Law School with loans, and did not receive any scholarship from Harvard Law school.

LaBolt denied that Obama received any financial assistance from Harvard or from outside parties. “No - he paid his way through by taking out loans,” he said in an email to Newsmax.

At the time, Harvard cost around $25,000 a year, or $75,000 for the three years that Obama attended. And as president of the Harvard Law Review, he received no stipend from the school, Harvard spokesman Mike Armini said.

“That is considered a volunteer position,” Armini said. “There is no salary or grant associated with it.”

So if the figures cited by the Obama campaign for the Senator’s student loans are accurate, that means that Obama came up with more than $32,000 over three years from sources other than loans to pay for tuition, room and board.

Where did he find the money? Did it come from friends of Khalid Al Mansour? And why would a radical Muslim activist with ties to the Saudi royal family be raising money for Barack Obama?

That’s the question the Obama campaign still won’t answer.



Michelle Obama Speaks Out

Speaking at a campaign event in Haverford, Pa, in April of this year, Michelle Obama claimed that her husband had “just paid off his loan debt” for his Harvard Law School education.

In an appearance in Zanesville, Ohio, in February she bemoaned the fact that many American families were strapped with student loan payments for years after graduation.

“The only reason we’re not in that position is that Barack wrote two best-selling books,” she said. The first of those best-sellers netted the couple $1.2 million in royalties in 2005.

In response to Newsmax questions about the Obama’s college loans, a campaign spokesman cited a report in The Chicago Sun claiming that Obama borrowed $42,753 to pay for Harvard Law School, and “tens of thousands” more to pay for undergraduate studies at Columbia.

The same report said that Michelle Obama borrowed $40,762 to pay for her years at Harvard Law School.

But a Newsmax review of Senator Obama’s financial disclosures found no trace of any outstanding college loans, going back to 2000.


You have not addressed those at all. You can claim fallacies have been proven all you want, doesn't make it true. I would tell you once again to prove it, but I can see you are running off now.

Buh bye


I'm running of because of the lack of intelligence, of reason, of discussions (you poeple are not capable of it):
Obama is your president, and will be for another term, Nothing of the drivel you Truthers post or proclaim will
change that fact, Enjoy

Buy bye


I'm waiting for you to state your intelligent, reasonable case for discussion ("I don't like that website" does not count, sorry), but you keep evading it and instead resort to ad hominem insults. I'm sorry, but that's the lowest form of argument

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posted on Feb, 20 2012 @ 11:12 AM
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Once again, when faced with reasoned argument, they run instead of answering the question.



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