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Obama Still Has A Lot Of Explaining To Do

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posted on Feb, 19 2012 @ 07:10 PM
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Originally posted by Still

Originally posted by Dimitri Dzengalshlevi

Originally posted by MrSpad
He has nothing to explain. The people who think he does either are blinded by hate, crazy, or are not very bright.


What a load.

Even at my university, we are told that Obama worked for a CIA front company straight out of college.


By whom? Is every teacher saying it? Even in English Lit? Is there someone that greets every student at the door and tells them this? Is it what your friends at school tell you? Is there a specific teacher "teaching" this?


Um, no. Actually, it is taught in political studies because it is a fact. Is this so hard to comprehend?



Since that never happened, no not really. His name was never Barry Soetoro. Do you really think my friend Patty is a terrorist Manchurian Candidate too? She was born "Patricia" My friend Jon was born Jonathan. OH NOES!!!!!!!!!!! Barry is obviously short for Barack but he never changed his last name.


What are you talking about?


Everyone was nobody before you heard of them.


Really now


Just take a good, hard look at the recent history of US presidents. George HW Bush was ex-CIA head. Bill Clinton was another polished president. George W. Bush was the son of Bush Sr, as well as the governor of Texas.

...and then some lawyer from Chicago suddenly becomes celebrity #1 because he was to become the first black president. This nobody wiped the floor with Hilary Clinton, the wife of a former president.

He, too, was a polished politician, except his background was kept in the dark. Keep dreaming that you live in a democracy where your presidents are average, grassroots people. Because they aren't.


Part of your problem is you are upset about something you just made up or repeated because you believed it without really thinking or looking.


Oh yeah, I just made it up. I must be delusional for not accepting the status quo "ends justify the means" facts that are designed for the politically-retarded majority of the population to accept.

The fact that I am not an American, studying politics of an Amerocentric world in in non-American university, gives me a hell of a lot more credibility than say, the average American who gets their facts from the American media/government.




posted on Feb, 19 2012 @ 07:15 PM
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Originally posted by Dimitri Dzengalshlevi

Um, no. Actually, it is taught in political studies because it is a fact. Is this so hard to comprehend?


No, that is not hard to comprehend at all. The empty statement I questioned was. That was why you had to come clear it up with this. Where did you get lost?


What are you talking about?


Again, where did you get lost? You claimed he changed his name from Barry Soetoro. No he did not. What part of my explanation lost you?


Really now


Deny it.


Just take a good, hard look at the recent history of US presidents. George HW Bush was ex-CIA head. Bill Clinton was another polished president. George W. Bush was the son of Bush Sr, as well as the governor of Texas.

...and then some lawyer from Chicago suddenly becomes celebrity #1 because he was to become the first black president. This nobody wiped the floor with Hilary Clinton, the wife of a former president.

He, too, was a polished politician, except his background was kept in the dark. Keep dreaming that you live in a democracy where your presidents are average, grassroots people. Because they aren't.


I see. You have a prepared rant for other people. Go post it to them then.


Oh yeah, I just made it up. I must be delusional for not accepting the status quo "ends justify the means" facts that are designed for the politically-retarded majority of the population to accept.


You take that ball and you run. Run, rabbit run.


The fact that I am not an American, studying politics of an Amerocentric world in in non-American university, gives me a hell of a lot more credibility than say, the average American who gets their facts from the American media/government.


You have 0 credibility at this point so brag about that.



posted on Feb, 19 2012 @ 07:23 PM
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reply to post by Still
 


Big man, you seem to be. Excuse me for posting my opinion on a conspiracy messageboard




posted on Feb, 19 2012 @ 07:23 PM
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Isn't Obama the only President throughout all American history that is not a direct descendant from European nobility?

Hasn't EVERY President from George to George before him been a direct descendant of European monarch?

Isn't every President except Van Buren & Obama related to John Lackland, the king who signed the Magna Carta?
edit on 19-2-2012 by ILikeStars because: * added word been.



posted on Feb, 19 2012 @ 07:29 PM
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reply to post by gadaffy
 


Obama was absolutely born in Kenya and his real name on his Real Birth Certificate is Barry Soetoro.He borrowed a social security number from a deceased resident named Harrison Bounel who was a resident of a state in New England. Google that name & you could spend hours looking at all the postings. I actually saw an interview with Obama's grandmother before she passed away & she was amazed that her grandson was running for President because she knew exactly what the requirement are; natural born citizen etc.



posted on Feb, 19 2012 @ 07:33 PM
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Originally posted by Dimitri Dzengalshlevi
reply to post by Still
 


Big man, you seem to be. Excuse me for posting my opinion on a conspiracy messageboard



I am not a man and claiming people did things they never did is not an "opinion."
It is commonly known as a lie, actually.



posted on Feb, 19 2012 @ 07:35 PM
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Originally posted by Still

Originally posted by Dimitri Dzengalshlevi
reply to post by Still
 


Big man, you seem to be. Excuse me for posting my opinion on a conspiracy messageboard



I am not a man and claiming people did things they never did is not an "opinion."
It is commonly known as a lie, actually.


Speak for yourself, I'm not lying about anything. It is my duty and my training to know about the true nature of politics, not the surface perception that is for general consumption.

So keep calling me a liar, and I will gladly call you a fool.

PS- Sorry for calling you a man if you do not have a pair. It's not like I can see your tits through the electronic signals of the internet.
edit on 19-2-2012 by Dimitri Dzengalshlevi because: (no reason given)



posted on Feb, 19 2012 @ 07:43 PM
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Originally posted by Dimitri Dzengalshlevi
Speak for yourself, I'm not lying about anything. It is my duty and my training to know about the true nature of politics, not the surface perception that is for general consumption.


You stated something as fact that is not true.
What would you call that?


So keep calling me a liar, and I will gladly call you a fool.


Liar.


PS- Sorry for calling you a man if you do not have a pair. It's not like I can see your tits through the electronic signals of the internet.
edit on 19-2-2012 by Dimitri Dzengalshlevi because: (no reason given)


I know you cannot see me. That is why I do not assume to know things about you that are not readily available to me. Not sure why you would do it and then get huffy with me because you were wrong.



posted on Feb, 19 2012 @ 07:50 PM
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Well I think he needs to spill the beans this time around, and explain what the people are asking for, or no second term...He already had most of you fooled before with those promises, and did not deliver. I am curious if asked about his transcripts if he will prove it to the American people who want to vote for him. So if you want to vote for Obama you better ask for them...Me I don't have that problem, he won't receive my vote anyways.



posted on Feb, 19 2012 @ 07:54 PM
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Originally posted by ILikeStars
Isn't Obama the only President throughout all American history that is not a direct descendant from European nobility?

Hasn't EVERY President from George to George before him been a direct descendant of European monarch?

Isn't every President except Van Buren & Obama related to John Lackland, the king who signed the Magna Carta?
edit on 19-2-2012 by ILikeStars because: * added word been.


Actually, Obama is.

Assuming that Ann Dunham is his Mother.

partial list:

Franklin Roosevelt (descendant of James II of Scotland)
Harry S. Truman (descendant of Robert III of Scotland)
Richard Nixon (descendant of Henry II of England)
Gerald Ford (descendant of Edward I of England)
Jimmy Carter (descendant of Edward III of England)
George H. W. Bush and his son, George W. Bush (descendants of Edward I of England and Robert II of Scotland)
Barack Obama (descendant of Edward I of England and William the Lion of Scotland)


Obama is Royal

Family Trees

He is also Irish Royalty.

He is also a sixth cousin to Wild Bill Hickok !!!



posted on Feb, 19 2012 @ 07:57 PM
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I know of some rumors.

Some say He was granted foreign student loans or grants under the Soetoro name.

Some say he changed his name legally and the records are sealed.

Some say Obama Sr. is not his real Father.

Some even doubt that Ann Dunham is his real Mother.



posted on Feb, 19 2012 @ 08:25 PM
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xuenchen,
This is very good post that holds quite a few questions that I, and a lot of people on here have been pondering for some time! I believe it should be the duty of our Leader to follow the guidelines of what we have to do to be anyone in America. Does anyone else not think it's a little unfair that we have to give up all of our personal information, jobs, schools, addresses, etc, just to apply for a job!! But our President can't even realease a little but of information to the people he presides over. I must remind a lot of people though, we voted for a man without knowing these things as well. Do it once shame on them, Do it twice shame on us..We should not elect a man again without demanding knowledge and verification of citizenship, past schools, jobs, where the heck ya came from, and if they are not willing to tell us are we really willing to vote for them? Just saying. I hope he tells us what we would like to know, even though I suspect we all realllly already know what we want to hear, thats why we are asking.
I want answers!!
Great thread with Great Questions!
Thank you for Sharing with us!



posted on Feb, 19 2012 @ 08:44 PM
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Originally posted by Katharos62191
Does anyone else not think it's a little unfair that we have to give up all of our personal information, jobs, schools, addresses, etc, just to apply for a job!! But our President can't even realease a little but of information to the people he presides over.


Stop making things up.



posted on Feb, 19 2012 @ 08:48 PM
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Originally posted by KonquestAbySS
.Me I don't have that problem, he won't receive my vote anyways.


He is not receiving any of any of your votes anyway so there is really no reason for him to give in to any of your birther demands.



posted on Feb, 19 2012 @ 08:49 PM
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Originally posted by 63 split window
reply to post by gadaffy
 


Obama was absolutely born in Kenya and his real name on his Real Birth Certificate is Barry Soetoro.


And where is that?
You would not make such a claim without having that BC to post would you?



posted on Feb, 19 2012 @ 09:09 PM
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reply to post by Still
 


Did I mention something about his birther? Wow genius where did you pull that out of? Care to stay on topic if you want to attempt to argue with me...

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posted on Feb, 19 2012 @ 09:15 PM
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post removed because the user has no concept of manners

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posted on Feb, 19 2012 @ 09:16 PM
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Originally posted by KonquestAbySS
reply to post by Still
 


Did I mention something about his birther? Wow genius where did you pull that out of? Care to stay on topic if you want to attempt to argue with me...

edit on 19-2-2012 by KonquestAbySS because: (no reason given)


What is the topic???

I can't figure it out, seems like a free form drool session thus far...



posted on Feb, 19 2012 @ 09:18 PM
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Originally posted by KonquestAbySS
reply to post by Still
 


Did I mention something about his birther? Wow genius where did you pull that out of? Care to stay on topic if you want to attempt to argue with me...

edit on 19-2-2012 by KonquestAbySS because: (no reason given)


Talk about holier then thou Obama and you anger his disciples (or mention Ron Paul)

Am I the only one who has noticed the Obama supporters are growing angrier as of late? I expect this anger to become hotter and hotter as the election comes closer.
edit on 19-2-2012 by MidnightTide because: (no reason given)

edit on 19-2-2012 by MidnightTide because: was not implying KonquestAbySS is an Obama supporter



posted on Feb, 19 2012 @ 09:23 PM
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The topic is about his education transcripts.


reply to post by MidnightTide
 



I am not an Obama supporter. You must of got me twisted with someone else.



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