Washington County Caucus (Maine) Unofficial Results

Originally posted by Erongaricuaro

Originally posted by OutKast Searcher

If you have to twist someones arm to get a proper vote count because you are insisting your candidate is being robbed...and then that vote count has him doing worse than the intitial count...then maybe you should realize that your cries of fraud are just flat out wrong.

Is winning and losing all that is important to you? Whatever happened to "how you play the game"?

I've stated previously, win, lose, or draw I just want to see a fair count. Still kind of baffling how recounts always produce a different outcome. Glad my bank is more accurate.

edit on 19-2-2012 by Erongaricuaro because: (no reason given)

Honestly...if the GOP is screwing Ron Paul over...at this point I would say it is his own fault.

He has come out and said he is gaming the caucus system...but putting in delegates that are his supporters that have said they will vote against the will of the people.

How is that for your "how you play the game"? Do you support that tactic by Ron Paul?

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If the people are against freedom for others in exchange for there piece of the pie, then they need to be voted against. The moment the people believe that they are more important than others, that they believe they control the beliefs, views, and actions of others, then they are people that are against freedom in its entirety.

America is going to move away from this "majority rule" mentality that has domineered freedom in the name of false Democracy. A true democracy is going to come out of this and there is nothing anyone, not even the brainwashed masses who try to preserve their own wealth and fall victim to the same lies over and over again, can do about it.

Originally posted by OutKast Searcher

He has come out and said he is gaming the caucus system...but putting in delegates that are his supporters that have said they will vote against the will of the people.

How is that for your "how you play the game"? Do you support that tactic by Ron Paul?

That's in your imagination. We've been down this road before, show me a link or a clip. Those delegates will vote as pledged in the first vote. After that they can vote as they wish. That was explained by his strategist on Maddow and is in one of the threads here.

Thems the rules. Part of playing the game is taking advantage of strategies. Looks like this one is going brokered. Paul seems to have you concerned. Afraid he can do it? We'll see.

Originally posted by gwydionblack
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If the people are against freedom for others in exchange for there piece of the pie, then they need to be voted against. The moment the people believe that they are more important than others, that they believe they control the beliefs, views, and actions of others, then they are people that are against freedom in its entirety.

America is going to move away from this "majority rule" mentality that has domineered freedom in the name of false Democracy. A true democracy is going to come out of this and there is nothing anyone, not even the brainwashed masses who try to preserve their own wealth and fall victim to the same lies over and over again, can do about it.

We are not a democracy...never have been...never will be.

It's ironic that you say you want to move away from a "majority rule" and move to a true democracy....which is 100% MAJORITY RULE.

I think you are confused about your political systems.

Originally posted by OutKast Searcher

Originally posted by hawkiye
So the very people who were caught red handed committing fraud said they recounted the vote and it's all fixed now and Romney still won but it was done without any transparency or verification of the vote and you think Ron Paul supporters are being unreasonable to continue to raise their voices against such a sham... Sigh! You can't fix stupid I guess...

edit on 19-2-2012 by hawkiye because: (no reason given)

If you think the GOP is fraudulent...then why support a candidate that would participate in the party?

There is something stupid going on...either Ron Paul is stupid for being in the GOP, or his supporters are stupid for supporting an organization that they think is fraudulent.

No his detractors are stupid for continuing to try and push the same stupid circular BS arguments over and over.

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If it goes brokered, the candidate will be Sarah Palin, Jeb Bush, Chris Christy, Donald Trump, or Marco Rubio.

Ron Paul has less of a chance at a brokered convention than he does winning traditionally. A brokered convention puts all the power into the hands of the GOP.

And no, that is not what Ron Paul's campaign is saying they will do...they are saying those are THEIR delegates...period. Not after the first round of voting...but that they are going as Ron Paul delegates.

There may be a brokered convention...but not because of Ron Paul. He can only play this delegate game in caucus states...and there are way more delegates in primary states than there are in caucus states. IF it is a brokered convention it will be due to Santorum and Gingrich winning some states.

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No his detractors are stupid for continuing to try and push the same stupid circular BS arguments over and over.

Which stupid circular BS arguments are those?

Is it where we say that Ron Paul is polling poorly so he will probably lose...and then he loses???

Do we have the new official counts yet by precinct?

Did Belfast show Romney 5, Paul 8, as the precinct lead reported?