Can I ask you all a serious question?

This is really in response to the Rothschilds and Global Domination thread, but I did not want that thread to get off topic so decided to post my question for you instead here, and hopefully draw in more opinions.

What is your goal?

A lot of you seem to have an agenda to see the downfall of the U.S. and Israel (pretty much every NATO nation and their alliance to each other). This might not be your agenda but a lot of you give off this impression. Ill admit I seem to have an agenda. But whats most certain is that all were doing is fighting with each other and trying to prove whose country is worse.

If you dislike the U.S./Israeli system of governments, then what would you like to see in their place?

Communism or Islamism?

This is just a question.

Can somebody answer me and point out what they would like to see in place of what we have?

The way I see it - there are problems with every country. Every country has killed, and has done things they are not proud of. Does that mean the country has to be brought to its destruction? Which system of government advances the Human race and which holds us back? Can you guys not look at the kind of life you have in these countries and ask yourself which you prefer? Isnt the kind of government that lets you riddle it with criticism the only kind of government worth living in?

If the United States falls, where else do you go that gives you that right? Do you think Britain or Canada or Australia is going to be around long when America is a thing of the past? When have wars ever been avoidable? I will admit the U.S. has never been at peace in its short history. Some people need killing and others dont. We export violence and death to those who would oppose Western power and influence and are ruthless and cunning in it. But which system of government is worth fighting for to preserve?

Im not trying to bring negativity to this conversation - I would appreciate a very well thought out and constructive response. I would just like to hear what kind of alternative is any better then the system in place in the U.S. now, and I see that you either pick a side or you die and thats out of our control. I appreciate this country and the rights it gives me. You may call me blind for this, but I can visibly see how rights in other countries are violently stamped on by their governments and thats not propaganda. This government accepts everybody for whatever they are. I am gay. In many countries I would be killed for this. I am also an atheist. I would be killed for this in several places around the world too. I also sometimes criticize my government and that is also a penalty worth death in several places around the world. Please dont call me a war monger either. I just am very interested in military history and think more people in more places all over the world lived way worse lives before the West put in place its aggressive foreign policies, then the few people in few parts of the world today that we dont have any influence over, and I think that an isolationist ideology only pulls us back into the kind of world I dont want to live in.

I want everybody to be happy and free to do what they want, but I also think we need laws to protect us from each other. I am for the Earth and everybody and everything that lives on it, and the sooner we can stop building bombs and put that money into things like education and science the sooner well be able to do some actual good for our species. I just want to get to there.

Thank you.

(and please dont say anarchy because I dont want children being molested and women raped every day and nobody faces consequences for behavior like that)

Just give me that thing we were promised in our constitution.

You know... The "law of the land?" I want my Democratic Republic back, not this sham that is being pulled over our eyes.

a benevolent monarch is a good system or maybe some holographic type govt

Originally posted by biggmoneyme
a benevolent monarch is a good system or maybe some holographic type govt

Always up for a monarchy. If they get out of hand.. It's the Gulliotine for them. Yeah.. I like that idea!

Electronic constitutional direct democracy.

Originally posted by Maslo
Electronic constitutional direct democracy.

I agree with Electronic constitutional direct democracy so that you get rid of the currupted elite on the top of the power pyramid. A dynamic world where people can choose where they wanna live based on their ideas on where they fit in and how they wanna live. Voting should be as localised as possible and differances should be allowed around the world.

Resource economy is a nice idea also since we need to move away from competitive economic systemes based on the power pyramid. If not for the benifit of the people then for the benifit of nature so that we don't permanently destroy this planet.

If you put these 2 ideas together it becomes from my view communism. It have never existed on this planet that I know of. Every country that have called themselves communist have been dictatorships with the power pyramid controling from the top to the classes below. Service to all by all controlled by all instead of service to self/few/ego by all controlled by one/few. The problem is that this system does only work when the people are taught responsability. Someday I think humanity will have this system because technology will have come so far that competing for resources is wasteful in time. If we can survive for so long.

But I do not have the right to tell anyone how the system is supposed to work in any region than the one I live in.

I agree with the OP and Beezzer.

A resource based economy is a great idea on paper. However it doesn't take into consideration human nature. Until we can get rid of the gene that causes people to be competitive and some psycopathic this will not work. There is always going to be someone who wants to be at the top and control everything.

I had a longer post with some examples of countries I have been to but deleted it. I would like to hear everyones opinion before I respond again.

I've turned sour on democracy. I think a republic with strictly defined powers, much greater local autonomy, and where government had the mandate and most importantly, the revenue to do much less would be good for human freedom.

I guess no one wants to explain the other options

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This entire thread is based on the assumption that Western systems of government are Democracies.

This is completely erroneous.

Also I believe referring to any form of government as "Islamism" is idiotic in the extreme.

Robots. If you look at the fall of every government in the history of earth they all have on thing in common , they were run by humans. Different Nations , Different Races , Different Gods but all the same species. Like a poster before me seed until we can weed out the gene that makes Humans competitive and psychotic we have to find a replacement species to take over for us. Once every human on earth agrees to Peace and No War and to give to the Sick and The Needy we can have our government back. Like AutoPilot for the Human Race.


We've been focused on keeping ourselves alive and fighting for survival for so long that are minds haven't had the chance to catch up to Technology. We need to fix this by taking a break for a while.

This thread proved to me that very few on this site actually care about trying to discuss a solution to the problems and only care about kicking dirt at the United States and its allies, more reasons for me to not want to listen to anything that comes out of the mouths of people like that.

Thanks for proving the point. Thanks to the few of you that took a minute or two to write an actually meaningful response to my question.